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Adding information to an existing page

Hi! I am a communications professional working for the company Ekberg and adding historical information about their company on their request. For complete transparency I have first started a discussion on all the talk pages for Café Ekberg three language versions where I have published the additions I would like to make and asked an independent editor to do so. For the Swedish page I got the answer from someone "patrolling" that the text is not good for Wikipedia. According to this person it did not contain references and was too boasting. I am sure I have valid references for all facts and I have also deliberately tried to keep a neutral tone. This person corrected some outdated facts but did not agree to add any new historical information. They referred me here or to a mentor for help. How can I proceed from here? I would very much like to update the page with relevant historical facts.

Kind regards! Voisilmäpulla (talk) 07:39, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

I doubt a Swedish Wikipedia user would point you to the English-language Wikipedia's help desk. Each Wikipedia project has its own standards and practices (save for neutral point of view, which applies on all of them), and we know as much about sv.wp's S&P as a whale knows about the Himilayas. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 07:44, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Okay! Thank you for your answer. Voisilmäpulla (talk) 07:49, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Here, you should use the edit request process to propose edits about your company, not make them yourself(except in the situations listed here). 331dot (talk) 07:50, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Voisilmäpulla. I've added some general information about WP:COI and WP:PAID to your user talk page. Please take the time to look at it because you might find it helpful. You might also find there are some differences between how Swedish Wikipedia and English Wikipedia deal with such things.

I've also undone the edits you've made to Café Ekberg over the past few days because, as 331dot posted above, a communication professional working for Ekberg should really not be editing or creating any content about anything to with the company, except in some very limited cases. If you were unaware of this then that's OK, but you did make an edit request at Talk:Café Ekberg about a week before making these edits which seems you were aware of WP:EDITREQUEST and how it works. Maybe you thought that it would be OK to do what you wanted to do because nobody responded to your request, but that's really not how things work on English Wikipedia.

As for the request itself, I suggest you toss it out and try again because you're basically asking for a total rewrite / major expanision of the article, which is something is pretty much never going to be responded to in a favorable way. All those responding to edit requests are WP:VOLUNTEERs just like anyone else editing English Wikipedia, and edit requests like the one you made tend to just be passed over because they're too dense to sort through. I suggest you try to get the article updated little by little instead of all at once. Simple requests like "Change x to y in the first sentence of the ZZZZ section" are much easier to answer. Make sure you provided a reliable source for any changes that might be seen as contentious or in need of verification. The easier you make your edit request to understand and verify, the faster it's likely going to be answer. I also suggest you use the "edit request process" suggested by 331dot above because it will help ensure your request is formatted properly and place it in a queue of other requests waiting to be answered. Another reason why your request went unanswered was probably because nobody was aware of it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, this was helpful. I will ask for gradual updates to the English page that are easier to respond to. Voisilmäpulla (talk) 08:35, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

@Voisilmäpulla Please be mindful in general that Wikipedia is not a directory of companies and an article about any given company is not necessarily supposed to be an accurate, up-to-date record of things like its history and management.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source. Athanelar (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Strange Gaps in page about Fictional Monster Hunters

Hello! I'm working on a personal project about monster hunters in various pieces of fiction, and while trying to find a few good examples to work with, I found this page listing various monster hunters from across pop culture: Category:Fictional monster hunters

I noticed a few strange gaps in it. Namely that it includes every one of the original 6 Power Rangers, except for Billy Cranston, as well as listing Gwen Tennyson from the Ben 10 series, but not Grandpa Max, Kevin E. Levin, or Ben 10 himself, there might be a few other examples I'm missing. Of course I don't expect this to be filled with EVERY character from any show about fighting monsters (including every power ranger would add over 100 new entries), but these gaps of MAJOR CHARACTERS in various franchises just feels odd. I would edit it myself, but I have no idea how, and after trying to I'm scared of breaking something. ~2026-47619-87 (talk) 04:47, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia has gaps in many areas that some people will feel odd. You can add what you want to the appropriate sub-page(s) of Wikipedia:Requested articles, but this is unlikely to achieve anything. Or you can set out to create one or more articles yourself. There are several hurdles on your way, but thousands of your predecessors similarly started with no idea and yet got over those hurdles and created articles. You'll find links on this very page to tutorials and other help pages. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:01, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

There is almost no chance of you breaking anything (Wikipedia is designed that way), and anything you do 'wrong' can easily be reverted or corrected by yourself or others. We all make mistakes at first, that's how we learn, so unless you seem to be doing things maliciously (or repeatedly, not learning from others' advice), no-one will mind. Go for it!

I must say, the list looks to me to be rather sparse, given the popularity of supernatural and horror fiction over the past century and more. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-43920-01 (talk) 05:02, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

One of the important things to learn early on, in my opinion, is that every article has its own "edit history", shown by a link that says "View history" or "Last edited by ...".

If you make a mistake you can go into that history, find your mistake, and click "Undo". It will give you a form to fill, but the only slot that's required is the "edit summary", where you can add "Revert my own mistake" or whatever makes sense. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 08:58, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-47619-87: You can add Billy Cranston to Category:Fictional monster hunters by editing the article (not the category) and adding the code [[Category:Fictional monster hunters]] at the bottom. There is already similar code for other categories. You can test it's right by clicking "Show preview" and see whether the category is listed among the others and has a blue or purple link. The order of categories is not very important but similar category names are in alphabetical order so I would choose that. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:19, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

You may be confused because the page you're viewing is a categorization page; they don't get edited directly the way that articles and lists do. Instead, pages get tags added to them which automatically add them to that category. Much more information is available here: Wikipedia:Categorization. Matt Deres (talk) 12:58, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Ann Sheridan

Special:Diff/1372811919

I have recently begun to use Wikipedia Library information as on wikipedia articles, and I keep getting the CS1 error because when filling out a reference template, I inserted a Wikipedia Library URL in the URL field (inside the template). When I don't have any other URL to the original newspaper article, is it best to leave the URL field blank, or should I continue to create a WP:WLERROR by using a wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org link?

Thanks, MPS (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

MPS, you can fix the problem by replacing access-newspaperarchive-com.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org in the library link with newspaperarchive.com. TSventon (talk) 13:32, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try that! Peace, MPS (talk) 23:50, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Multiple use of same source in article: what is the coding to simplify

Article: Pierre Bonnard. Reference reused: "Anne Somerset - The Affair of the Poisons: Murder, Infanticide, and Satanism at the Court of Louis XIV (St. Martin's Press (October 12, 2003) ISBN 0-312-33017-0) p. "~2026-47100-73 (talk) 01:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-47100-73: You're going to want to read WP:NAMEDREF. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:03, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Remove my story

IF I WANT TO REMOVE MY STORY FROM WIKIPEDIA HOW DO I GO ABOUT DOING IT ? ~2026-48186-63 (talk) 15:11, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48186-63.

Wikipedia does not contain stories (either in the fiction or the newspaper sense): it contains encyclopaedia articles.

I'm guessing you mean "an article about you". In that case, please see ABOUTYOU.

In short: your approval for an article about you is neither sought nor required.

If you are like most people in the world and don't in fact meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then an article about you should be deleted - not because you request it, but because it shouldn't have been there in the first place.

If you are one of the small proportion of people who do meet those criteria, then the article will probably not be deleted, but you are welcome to make edit requests for changes to it.

If you are borderline notable, then your request for deletion may be taken into account.

If you tell us which article, we can look at it. ColinFine (talk) 16:10, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Documentation on Wikipedia

I have been contacted by Connor Clark inviting me to create a summary of my career for Wikipedia. This was unsolicited and hence I am cautious. Please advise. J Toouli ~2026-48051-29 (talk) 07:49, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Do not reply and block all further communication. If a rando cold-contacts you with no real explanation, they're generally attempting to scam you. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 07:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

See WP:SCAM for more details. If you wish, you could string him along a bit then report to the address linked on that page. My guess, based on your name, is that you might meet WP:NACADEMIC but if so it would be best for a volunteer to write about you. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:39, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

(Even if they do provide an explanation, if it's about writing for you on Wikipedia it's still a scam.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:46, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

List of 2026 in albums

Can you please fix the error i made please ~2026-48045-21 (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You have only made two edits to Wikipedia under this account, and neither were editing an article called "List of 2026 in albums", or anything similar. Can you link the article? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@JohnLaurens333 They edited on another TA that's linked to that one. Looks like it was fixed earlier, though. qcne (talk) 16:53, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for finding that! ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:56, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Misinformation could be considered Defamation

The Lindsay clancy Wiki page is presenting blatant speculation as fact , committing defamation. The page is locked from being edited. ~2026-48067-56 (talk) 17:31, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You seem to be referring to Killing of the Clancy children. Please see Talk:Killing of the Clancy children, specifically the FAQ at the top, and you may discuss your concerns there. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I mean, discuss them at WP:BLPN. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

John Wood (poet) appears on American Male Poets but not on List of Poets from the United States

John Wood (poet)

I do not know how to edit Wikipedia articles, nor do I have the computer skills to learn. I am hoping a Wiki editor will correct two oversights that I am unable to correct, namely 1. That "John Wood (poet)" be changed to "John Wood (American poet)" 2. That John Wood, who presently appears on Wikipedia's list of American Male Poets, be added to Wikipedia's "List of poets from the United States." Stanhager (talk) 09:16, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Stanhager, I have added Wood to List of poets from the United States. I believe that the article name is correct: we try to keep article names short, so if we only had one "John Wood" that would be the article name, as we only have one "John Wood (poet)" that is the article name. See Wikipedia:Disambiguation for details. TSventon (talk) 11:21, 3 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! Very grateful that you took the time and care to do this. Stanhager (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Tea house

When can I vent? When can I learn so I can talk and not be scared of the light that was showing to the sun of me the guy ~2026-48028-46 (talk) 16:50, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi. This is a page about asking questions about editing Wikipedia. Please see a mental health professional or another website that isn't Wikipedia. qcne (talk) 16:51, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

meta:Mental Health Resource Center might be a starting point. As for Wikipedia itself, please check out WP:NOTTHERAPY and WP:NOTESCAPE. LkL-70547 (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Accessibility Bugs and Slurs

The "Contact Us" page does not say how to raise acessibility problems or report bugs, and the associated talk page is locked.

Wikipedia:Contact us/Readers

I have visual issues and run into the following recurring accessibility bugs, which often leave me with migraines:

1. If I load a page, the site has scrolling sidebars on both sides, and I have to manually close both sidebars before scrolling, or I get migraines.
2. If I mouse over links, the site flashes previews, and I get migraines.
   I also have ethical objections to the slurs, especially in Wikipedia's policies.
3. For example, section 3 in the Contact Us page. ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for alerting us that the Wikidata entry for that page has been vandalized. I'm going to let an admin take care of the whole situation. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 00:42, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not seeing a slur in section 3 of the page you've linked? Athanelar (talk) 00:45, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

"If you spot vandalism, it is best just to fix it directly yourself; however, if you cannot fix it, you can email info-en-v@wikimedia.org and include the address or title of the article and a description of the vandalism." ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 00:56, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43174-52: Can you please explain why you think vandalism is a modern slur? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:02, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Because it's using a name of an ethnic group as an insult, and in many contexts, as an accusation.~2026-43174-52 (talk) 01:08, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Any of these imaginary modern-day Vandals are too busy defending themselves against Invisigoths to read Wikipedia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:35, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

The ethnic group called the Vandals ceased to exist by the end of the 6th century CE, having been dispersed and absorbed, such that their culture, religion, language and identity disappeared. I don't think anybody in the last 1,300 years could sincerely be offended by modern uses of the term, which only arose in the 18th century. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-43920-01 (talk) 02:20, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

If you create an account, you can go to account preferences and set a different skin than Vector 2022 which may be less likely to cause migraines for you. (I use Monobook, for instance.) You can also turn off previews in your account settings. (I have previews disabled.) - Purplewowies (talk) 01:15, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I used to be active on Wikipedia, but I got a lot of harassment, and I don't want to deal with that again. So I am not going to log in to my old account or create a new one.~2026-43174-52 (talk) 02:29, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

You're not obliged to edit with an account. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:48, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

That's very fair. It's just the only way I know of to permanently shift to something potentially more accessible (short of maybe custom CSS in something like Stylus or custom JS in something like Tampermonkey (to hide previews or automatically force a page to use useskin=skin_name in the URL, for instance), since anyone can use an off-wiki CSS/JS style or script manager to make client-side changes like that--it's just a bit more difficult than a couple switches in preferences). - Purplewowies (talk) 03:06, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

That's certainly fair, but then you will need to accept the limitations that come with not using an account. 331dot (talk) 12:07, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-43174-52: Your choice to hide sidebars should be remembered between pages. If it's not remembered then maybe your browser is blocking cookies. The bottom of pages has a "Mobile view" link which doesn't have sidebars. It's optimized for smalls screens but maybe you also prefer it on a large screen. If you log in then you can select the skin "Vector legacy" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. It has a sidebar on the left but not the right. Previews have a gear icon to disable previews, but if you block cookies then your setting may not be remembered. If you log in then "Enable page previews" can be permanently disabled in your account at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, but if you block cookies then your login may not be remembered. If you only use your account for reading then nobody will bother you. If you consider "vandalism" to be an unacceptable ethnic slur against a people from 1500 years ago then are you serious? And that's not even what slur means. A slur is an offensive term about a group of people. Using the normal term for the group about something negative may not be nice to those people but it's not a slur. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:23, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

I see the mobile view seems to work for now, so thanks for that.

Reader prefs aren't remembered. I'm not blocking cookies. I used to redirect Wikipedia to the mobile version as a workaround, but for a time the site was redirecting them back to the desktop version.

"Using the normal term for the group about something negative may not be nice to those people but it's not a slur." As counterexamples, the use of "Welch" and "Philistine" in popular use, or of "Hun" and "Amalek" in propaganda; although they aren't usually aimed at the named groups, they can encourage a lot of harm. ~2026-43174-52 (talk) 22:07, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

What possible harm could the word vandalise do to anyone. qcne (talk) 22:17, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba Are there two articles with the same name?

One has a redirect from Islami Jamiat e Talaba and the other does not but has a table with officers.~2026-47100-73 (talk) 05:00, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba exists (and includes a table). It's the target of explicit redirects from Islami Jamiat Talaba Pakistan, Islami Jamiat-e-Tulba, Islami Jami`yat-e-Talaba, Islami Jamiat Talba, Islami Jamiat Talba, Pakistan, Islami Jamiat-e-Talibaat, Islami Jamiat Tulba, Islami Jamiat Talaba, Islami Jamiat-e-Talaba Pakistan, Islami Jamiat Taliba, and perhaps one or two others that I was too dazed to notice. It's also the target of a redirect if "Islami Jamiat e Talaba" is typed in. My uninformed guess is that if there's a request for an article with spaces in its title, and the article so titled doesn't exist but one with hyphens instead of those spaces does exist, then the website is programmed to serve the latter. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 06:02, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Incorrect Entry in List of NGRI Acquittals

Hello,

The second name listed here: Category:People acquitted by reason of insanity seems to be incorrect based on the Wikipedia entry on the case. I don't know the rules of the site so I don't want to try editing it myself. ~2026-48078-47 (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48078-47: Salvador Agron#Escape and release from prison says about a later trial: The jury found Agron "not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect." PrimeHunter (talk) 11:16, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah alright, thank you! ~2026-48078-47 (talk) 11:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Upload poster

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13150142/ Could someone please upload the poster for Rajahamsa (film) from IMDb under a valid fair-use rationale, if it meets Wikipedia's non-free content requirements? The poster would help illustrate the article. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:05, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

 Done: File:Rajahamsa_film_poster.jpg. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:19, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

How to do proper footnote

hi. I would like to know how to do notes here. Thanks ~2026-47580-01 (talk) 14:04, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-47580-01! You can refer to Wikipedia's help page on footnotes in order to learn more. If you run into any questions while reviewing this page, let us know! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:10, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

In case by "footnote" you just mean a note that adds an extra comment to a text rather than a citation which references a source, the easiest way is to use {{efn}} (short for 'explanatory footnote'). Assuming you use the source code editor, for short notes you can simply use {{efn|text=A short note.}} immediately after the text you want to append the note to. If there are no notes using {{efn}} in the article already, then you should also add a new section called "Notes" which contains just "{{notelist}}". This will ensure the notes are listed properly. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 15:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Notes

Adding audio

Hi all! Hope all is well with everyone!

I was poking around Wikipedia trying to find guidelines for audio usage and couldn't find any that satisfied my exact query, so I thought I'd ask here: if have a SoundCloud link from a reputable source of a long-deceased poet reading her work, would I be able to post that audio on said poet's Wikipedia page and, if so, how would I do that? More generally, though, when is it appropriate to add audio to pages, and what are the rules around using audio I didn't create?

Thanks!

Best,

Audreyeve Audreyeve (talk) 03:14, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on this, but I suspect that Soundcloud might constitute a self-published source, in which case you wouldn't be able to use audio from it as it wouldn't be considered reliable. Put another way, how can readers know for certain that the audio is in fact audio of the poet herself reading her work if it's hosted at a site where anyone can post any audio they desire? DonIago (talk) 04:41, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Aside from questions of reliability, Audreyeve, there's the question of copyright. Have you looked into this? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

If it was her/her estate's official Soundcloud/other reputable source, as you mentioned, I would think this would work in the external links section. Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 05:36, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh man--is there a way to reply all? (Nearly 300 edits and I still feel like such a newbie!)

@Doniago The audio was posted by an historical organization--I'm guessing they're just pulling some archival audio--and was embedded into an article they posted about her work. Your concern is definitely a super important one! I feel pretty confident about this specific source, though.

@Hoary I was hoping to find a good Wiki article about exactly the guidelines here, but no dice! But maybe a kind-hearted, intelligent editor would be able to scrounge something up for me... *bats eyelashes*

@Sarsenet This isn't a bad idea! I was hoping to embed it directly into the article so it could be more immediate, but posting in external links isn't toooooo inaccessible... Would I be able to say a cleaner, more neutral version of "click here to hear her voice!" or would it be better to gesture to the article as a whole? I'm just such a romantic about juicy primary sources like that one--that's how people fall in love with history.

Anyways, thanks all for your replies! Super helpful! Audreyeve (talk) 06:05, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

Well, Audreyeve, despite my lack of intelligence, now that you're batting your eyelashes: c:Commons:Licensing. (But prepare a litre or so of strong coffee before embarking on it.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 06:19, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

As always, it's easier to answer a specific question than a general or hypothetical one: which audio (link, please) and which poet? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:03, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve The "how would I do that" part of your question is answered by using the {{listen}} template. See Barack Obama for an example. The files are usually held on Commons in .ogg format. See also Help:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:24, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Celia Dropkin, with this link! I'd avoided specifics due to a (probably wholly misguided) fear of other users stealing that contribution--Dropkin means a lot to me--but having seen the link @Hoary posted, I think I might be okay with theft.

I'd totally be down to email the org and see if they could provide me with that audio for Wikipedia use; given the need for external sourcing, though, would that even be a possible arrangement?

And thanks Mike for the technical info! Audreyeve (talk) 22:09, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

email the org and see if they could provide me with that audio for Wikipedia use: no, Audreyeve, a copyright holder has to permit reuse by anybody, including commercial reuse. This permission must be explicit and provided by the copyright holder either directly to Wikimedia or publicly. (My word that a copyright holder has reassured me that it has either donated a recording to the public domain or copylefted it would be invalid.) Also, a quick look at the link you provide above gives me no reason to think that this is either copyleft or in the public domain. (Have I missed something?) I hope that your mention of "theft" is merely a joke. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:52, 1 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve ... a (probably wholly misguided) fear of other users stealing that contribution ... I think this would be a mindset to escape from as quickly as possible. In precisely the way that you mean this, you are contributing here because you want your topics to be "stolen" by as many people as possible. The moment you submit an article, if not before, it is out of your control, subject to every kind of revision by every kind of person. Being "first" with an article only gives your writing the distinction of being buried deepest at the bottom of the pile. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:47, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

You can e-mail the org and ask them to upload the audio to Wikimedia Commons but they are only allowed to do that if they hold the copyright. Joe vom Titan (talk) 22:37, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

@Audreyeve, please do contact the org, and ask them where they got the audio from. Depending on when it was published, it may well be in the public domain. Once you know the source of the audio (and preferably the date on which it was first published), we can help you further from there.

Alternatively, if it turns out not to be in the public domain, you can contact the copyright holder and ask them to release the recording under a Creative Commons license. Let Me Edit It (talk) 13:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Wow, there are a lot of comments here! This will probably be my last reply in this thread--I'm buoyed by the altruistic spirit of strangers on Wikipedia, but it's also a bit overwhelming.

@Hoary I actually replied to everyone in reverse order because I think a lot of how I might respond here is in my responses to both TooManyFingers and LetmeEditit. So, yes, those, but also, my plan of action: I think what I'll do for now is just upload the original audio as an external link. I don't love that because I think fewer people will access it than they would were it an embedded audio file, but it's also the quickest solution and the least dependent on external organizations. I'm so used to writing for things that set a final draft in stone; it's hard to remember that I can make a placeholder edit now and then change it to a better format if I get the go-ahead. I'll try reaching out to Yiddishkayt/YIVO/other organizations that might have more of this kind of audio; it would be super cool to get audio recordings embedded in the articles of a bunch of Yiddish creatives, not just my beloved Tsilye. Thanks again for all the shepherding!

@TooManyFingers I think we agree on more than you might assume! I'm currently writing my first article and I'm so excited to release it into the world and have people manipulate it and "steal" it just like you mentioned. But, crucially, my username will be on that very first, smothered, buried, hidden edit. You're absolutely right that, at the level of a topic, an article, or a section of an article, Wikipedia is about flinging your control into the void and giving selflessly. But I'm only speaking at the level of a single edit and, at the level of an edit (especially an edit that required effort in sourcing and is currently requiring effort dealing with media uploads/copyright stuff/etc.), it's not wrong to want credit for your contributions. Wikipedia itself agrees--it has built-in features, such as the inscription of one's username on an edit log or rewarding users for making a certain number of edits, that give users credit for their contributions. Wikipedia would not exist without the thankless, unglamorous work that can get reverted with a single click. It also wouldn't exist without the practice of giving editors a modicum of credit for their contributions.

I've been in environments where, if you offer up the beginnings of an idea in the hopes of developing it with others, someone else will run away with it and claim it as theirs. I'm too new to Wikipedia to be able to tell if that's the culture here, but that does seem to be the culture on a significant share of the internet. I've had some really lovely and sweet encounters with other Wikipedians and I've had some where I've been met with bizarre out-of-the-blue unkindness (again, totally normal on the internet). My goal was to avoid the latter and I'd hoped that, by not providing an exact road map to the kind of contribution I wanted to make, I'd be able to avoid someone just posting it themselves before I could work out the bugs (which seems like a strange thing to be worried about, but the thing about bizarre out-of-the-blue unkindness is that it's really hard to proactively guard against, which is why it can be so devastating!). My throwaway line about theft was 99% just self-deprecation about my own cageyness--a cageyness that I had, even then, acknowledged was likely not justified--and even that was just a setup to bemoaning the dryness and density of the (still useful!) page Hoary had linked. Ultimately, all it meant was that I had been burned before--not that I didn't wholeheartedly support crucial Wikipedia contributor values, which I do!

@Joe vom Titan Gotcha! Will do, boss!

@LetmeEditit Okay, ridiculously helpful. I'd rembered after I'd written a few comments that, while archival organizations absolutely do want to spread the artifacts they collect far and wide, they also get protective of their materials for similar reasons as the copyright holders cited in the article: digitizing their materials and making them available for free reduces future funding and engagement opportunities. I was unsure the one org I'd linked to/similar Yiddish orgs would bite re: giving me all their audio files and letting me put them on Wikipedia. I'd given up on the idea of getting those files because I assumed that copyright and archival policy would incentivize archives to hew towards the "protect our assets" side and suppress the "preserve and share important historical memory" side, but this actually gives me a great path for figuring out how to approach them with a collaborative request; it reminds me that that balance isn't mine to strike, and that I shouldn't shut down that possibility of opening access before they do. Thank you so much! Audreyeve (talk) 22:16, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Miracle Matthew

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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I need to find out how to tell my NDE, on YouTube. To tell my living story how I met Jesus when I was 4 years old and had less than 10% chance of survival.Im going to be 50 years old this September 19th. Can someone help me through this. Thank you,God Bless you for ur help. I'm disabled and don't have an email. My number is (Redacted) ~2026-48232-34 (talk) 17:57, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to ask for advice about YouTube, nor is it the place to post your story; it's an online encyclopedia. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 17:59, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Blacklist titles

Socks

I’m very interested in Kannada cinema and would like to create more articles on this topic. I recently tried to create my first article about the lead actor of a film who is already quite notable. However, while creating the draft, I received a blacklist warning. (Gowrishankar SRG)Could someone please check this and help identify the reason for the blacklist? Is there any possible way to have it unblocked or removed from the blacklist? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

The title is not blacklisted, its protected from creation since it was repeatedly created by banned user however you can request for its move on the administrator noticeboard Acongratulations (talk) 09:42, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

It's been repeatedly recreated by a banned user. As a temporary account user you can't create articles directly anyway, you need to use the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 09:43, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying. I also tried creating the draft through the Article Wizard, but Draft:Gowrishankar SRG is itself protected from creation and requires extended confirmed access. Since I would like to work on the article as a draft and submit it through the proper process, could an administrator please advise whether the protection on the draft title can be reviewed or whether there is another appropriate way for me to create and submit the draft? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 09:58, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

As @Acongratulations suggested, should I submit a request on the Administrator's Noticeboard to have the protection on the draft title reviewed? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:08, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

As @331dot said, you must create an account and create it through your sandbox then submit it for review, if accepted it will be moved to mainspace and also if declined, the reason will be put for you by the reviewer. Acongratulations (talk) 10:19, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I would also advise you to leave the article since it already has a protected draft at Draft:Gowri Savithri Acongratulations (talk) 10:24, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I also found this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gowrishankar SRG (3rd nomination) Acongratulations (talk) 10:27, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

However, if it was deleted through AfD, Wikipedia also has the WP:REFUND process for requesting restoration when the deletion concerns have been addressed. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:35, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

the person I am referring to is Gowrishankar SRG a male Kannada actor who won the Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor (Kannada) for Kerebete. The existing protected draft you mentioned, Draft:Gowri Savithri, appears to be about a different person. Therefore, I believe Gowrishankar SRG should be treated as a separate article ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:33, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Regarding the draft being about another person, a participant in the AfD discussion noted the same thing: ...if you go back to the revisions prior to May 2026, you will see that the draft was about a completely different person. ... it's also unfair that Alak hijacked someone else's draft to use to promote their preferred subject. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 10:36, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

so there was a confusion during the AFD process which led to the protecting of both titles Acongratulations (talk) 10:41, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't think it was confusion. The draft for Savithri was likely protected to prevent it from being hijacked again, which seems reasonable. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 10:45, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scyrme I have rechecked and really seen that Gowri Savithri was used to bypass this other Gowri Shankar SRG to Wikipedia through hijacking the history Acongratulations (talk) 10:56, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

my main question is: given that there appears to have been confusion between the two different people during the AfD process, what would be the proper way under Wikipedia guidelines to resolve this and correct the history/protection associated with Gowrishankar SRG? Should I make a request somewhere for the relevant history and protection to be reviewed? ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:09, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I’m not familiar with what happened with the earlier draft, but my intention is not to promote anyone. I believe the subject may meet notability requirements, and I would like to develop the article in a neutral tone with reliable, independent sources and submit it through AfC. Since the article was previously deleted, I would also like to request a refund under WP:REFUND so it can be properly worked on and reviewed. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:43, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

You can do what is easy for you but the best way I think was to create an account and do it in your sandbox since you calim to do it with reliable sources and NPOV Acongratulations (talk) 10:46, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree that creating an account and developing the article in my sandbox would be the best approach. I’ll make sure the article is written neutrally and supported by reliable, independent sources, and then submit it for review through the proper process. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

if am not mistaken maybe the protecting admins made a mistake, I followed the AFD page and the result was to draft but again it seems like the people are different with similar names. Look at the 3rd deletion nomination under this title suggested by this temporary account and see. Acongratulations (talk) 10:38, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing that out. I’ll review the third AfD nomination and the earlier revisions to understand the history properly. If the previous AfD and protection were related to a different person with a similar name, then I agree that this may have caused some confusion. I appreciate you pointing me to the relevant discussion. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 10:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@KylieTastic, sorry for pinging you, but could I ask for your advice? In this particular case, would the WP:REFUND process apply, or is there another process I should follow to get the issue resolved properly ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

But how do you know with Gowri Shankar, are you connected ? Acongratulations (talk) 11:26, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Read my first message https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-~2026-48122-44-20260905093400-Blacklist_titles ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:28, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

aslo read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#c-~2026-48122-44-20260905103300-Acongratulations-20260905102400 ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:29, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Gowrishankar SRG is a well-known actor in Kannada cinema. He has been active in the industry for several years and has appeared in films such as Jokaali, Rajahamsa, and Kerebete. He also won the Filmfare Critics Award for Best Actor (Kannada) for Kerebete at the 70th Filmfare Awards South. ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:30, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-48122-44, no WP:REFUND would not be a suitable process for overturning AfDs like this one, especially with sockpupetry issues. As Draft:Gowrishankar SRG was protected by OwenX you would have to ask them. As you say you are very interested in Kannada cinema and would like to create more articles on this topic I would suggest picking other subjects that you are interested in within Kannada cinema. It is best not to start on subjects that have been problematic. Regards KylieTastic (talk) 11:35, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Noted ✅️ ~2026-48122-44 (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48122-44.

Creating new articles is not the only way to improve Wikipedia.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

Saying "I'm interested in Kannada cinema so I'm going to start by creating an article about X" is like saying "I want to be a house builder, so I'm going to start by building a house just there". Even if "just there" is a legal and practical place to build a house, you're going to spend an awful lot of time doing things that aren't going to work before you start to learn how to do it; and in practice there may be all sorts of reasons why it's never going to be possible to build a house "just there", which you may not yet be able to appreciate - if that is the case, then pretty well all your effort will be wasted. ColinFine (talk) 16:49, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Also note block evasion. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Alakmarsaify who has been pushing this relentlessly. And no, ~2026-48122-44, you aren't a new editor. You are evading a block and you have wasted good faith from too many editors in the past. Ravensfire (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

 Courtesy link: Karl Heinrich Ulrichs

The verb "experienced" describes the fact of having lived through the event; it does not specify whether the individual sought, accepted, or endured it—especially given that the source does not state the partner's age and does not allow for a legal characterization of the experience. SabaQueen72 (talk) 07:17, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Sock

I agree that “experienced” is more neutral and does not by itself imply consent, intent, or a legal characterization. I think that wording would be appropriate here, provided it accurately reflects what the cited source says. الجز نت 07:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@الجزيرة نت It would be very useful if you could modify your signature to contain an English transliteration or nickname of some sort to make it easier for English-literate editors to refer to you in discussions, FYI! Athanelar (talk) 09:20, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree that is an unusual or awkward phrasing. Here are some key stages in the evolution of that content:

• 16 February 2019 (anon editor)
• 1 May 2019 (User:Jdsteakley)

DMacks (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Vellapanti

Sock

Vellapanti

This article was created earlier, but it has not been patrolled yet. Is there any patroller who can review and patrol the article? ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 18:56, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There's a backlog of nearly 30,000 unpatrolled articles. qcne (talk) 19:03, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry please don't mind. I was asking for help with patrolling, not making a suggestion. I know there are many articles pending review, but in case you can tag the article on the Help Desk and have it reviewed, it would be clear whether the article is worthy of being kept or should be nominated for AfD. So please don't mind—I’m simply looking for a patroller who can review and patrol the article. ~2026-48333-20 (talk) 19:12, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

There are thousands of people who'd like the articles they wrote patrolled first. Why should you be before them? Do you a particular need for it to be patrolled quickly? 331dot (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Timeline of release years

the Arcaea page has a Template:Timeline of release years that frankly looks rather ugly, is there a way to make it so it has multiple columns? (here's what im thinking of https://imgur.com/a/jNaAr3X ) moonlitstargazer (talk) 20:46, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Your link isn't working for me, but if we did as you suggest, it would not be a timeline. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:42, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

I did see your link, and I agree with Andy that separating it by category headings would make it not a timeline. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:06, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Gabriel Levin

Hello, I am trying to contact Gabriel Levin. I'm the historian for a WWII US military unit. Gabriel's father, Meyer Levin, documented the action of the 12th (US) Armored Division at Itter Castle in Austria on 4-5 May 1945. I would like to obtain any information that exists on the event from Mr. Levin's archives. I can be contacted through the 12th Armored Division Memorial Museum - https://www.12tharmoreddivisionmuseum.com/ Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.

RW Scherer Robert W. Scherer COL, USA (Ret) ~2026-48404-74 (talk) 02:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48404-74: We are not affiliated with Mr. Levin, nor do we have access to his personal archives. There are articles on Gabriel Levin and Meyer Levin, though it doesn't seem there are any sources that pertain to WWII. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:19, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

My account confirmation did not succeed, what is wrong?

My account History Lover RSA (talk) 03:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@History Lover RSA: Do you mean that you weren't able to link an email address to your Wikipedia account? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:20, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

How to tell if an article has been patrolled?

WP:NPP

Per title. If the page information says indexing by robots is allowed, does that mean the page is patrolled? Is there anywhere else where this status is indicated? Thanks. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 12:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Under WP:NPP, there is a link titled "NPP Browser" linking to a ToolForge page that seems to achieve what you are looking for. Oakchris1955 (talk) 13:41, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Helpful Cat: you can go to Special:NewPagesFeed, click "set filters" and enter the username of the editor who started the page to show their unpatrolled and recently patrolled pages. I checked Dmytro Lytvyn (advisor) as an example and it has not been reviewed. However https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmytro_Lytvyn_(advisor)?action=info shows Indexing by robots as "Allowed", I don't know why. TSventon (talk) 13:59, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! That's the same situation as Oleksandr Demenko (not reviewed, but indexing allowed, but doesn't show up on Google), which is why I posted this question. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:01, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think the new pages feed is correct. I googled the problem and it seems to be quite old, see phabricator:T157747. TSventon (talk) 14:08, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. That explains it! Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 14:11, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The only reliable way to tell if an article disallows indexing is to examine the HTML source and look for content="noindex. That's what external search engines do. And this method isn't even reliable in other namespaces because we also use our robots.txt at https://en.wikipedia.org/robots.txt to disallow pages, but we don't use it for articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Citing the U.S. Congressional Record

It seems as if it isn't clear what citation template to use when citing a volume of the Congressional Record. A quick search shows that the articles are split between {{cite web}} and {{cite journal}}, even though the Congressional Record is by no means an academic journal.

That being said, I would like some feedback on what citation template should be used when citing the Congressional Record. Oakchris1955 (talk) 14:00, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Were I citing the article shown in the infobox at Congressional Record, I might write summat like this:

{{cite periodical |title=Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States |periodical=Congressional Record |department=Senate |volume=145 |number=26 |page=S1457 |date=February 12, 1999}}

"Trial of William Jefferson Clinton, President of the United States". Senate. Congressional Record. Vol. 145, no. 26. February 12, 1999. p. S1457.

{{cite periodical}} is a redirect to {{cite magazine}}.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Twinkle

Is there a way to turn on something like two factor authentication for reverting edits on Twinkle? Last night when scrolling through search history on an iPad at Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Andrew5 and accidentally reverted an edit as vandalism. Is there a way to make it where if you click on the vandalism button, etc, instead of immediately reverting it brings you to a page you have to confirm or something like that? 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 16:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hurricane Wind and Fire: Yes, go to your Twinkle preferences and tick one or both of the "Require confirmation" options. Then scroll to the bottom and click "Save changes". -- John of Reading (talk) 16:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

The cinema a brief history -tittle listing

Hello,

I am seeking guidance regarding the documentary feature film The Cinema: A Brief History of World Cinema, directed by filmmaker Wins Deus.

The film has been released/distributed internationally and has listings and independent coverage online. I would like to know whether the film currently meets Wikipedia’s notability requirements and, if so, how I can properly submit the information for review.

I understand that Wikipedia requires independent, reliable sources and that I should not create promotional content or improperly edit an article about my own work.

Could an experienced editor please advise me on the appropriate process? thank you wins Deus (Redacted) ~2026-48499-10 (talk) 17:27, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you provide the three best examples you have of independent online coverage? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

If this is your own work, please read and follow WP:COI and WP:PAID—the latter requires you to create (and use) an account. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 18:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

two accounts

I created two user accounts in error, how to I delete and not use one of them please, Tom tgm_ravelston is the old one I want to keep tgm_fife is the new one I made now, before I remembered the old one Tgm ravelston (talk) 19:34, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot delete accounts on Wikipedia. The simplest method for you, as you haven't edited with the account you want to delete, would be to simply stop using that account, and only use the one you want to keep. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 19:36, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

how do you get access to the new for you feed in the mobile app?

I cant seem to access it ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 10:32, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48655-45: What do you mean by "new for you feed"? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:57, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

supposedly according to people on twitter there has been a new for you page function like a forever scroll algorithmic style on wikipedia, but from what i can tell its roll out is either to random users or it needs an ios version i dont have and im trying to find out what the reason is, because i dont have access to it.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Explore_Feed_Refresh/Updates

https://x.com/kathrwn/status/2095953764389654543 ~2026-48655-45 (talk) 20:38, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

How to Request Unprotection of page

Hi! I had a quick question for how to request a page be unprotected from creation. The page is Guf(Rapper); here is the link to the deletion/protection log: Guf (rapper). On the log, it says that I need to contact the protecting administrator first to argue my case, and then request it's undeletion at the respective place. However, there are two problems here. First, the protecting administrator, @RHaworth, is deceased, so this route is essentially impossible. Second, I took this to the page dealing with undeletion reviews, and someone had mentioned there that it wasn't the place to deal with unprotection requests (it has both deletion and protection issues, to my understanding). When I found the place to request unprotection of the article creation, it says that the page doesn't exist.

I'm wondering if someone can explain this better to me. For context about the page, it was supposedly deleted for being unsourced/un-notable, but looking at the Russian Wikipedia, it made for a good translation target so I wanted to bring it over to the English Wikipedia. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance :) Losipov (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Before you request anything, please be aware that "exists on another Wikipedia and could be translated" is not a good reason. What would be a good reason is to show the sources (major articles by recognized journalists and critics, not Wikipedia and not blogs or social media) that you plan to use for writing the article. Reliable recognized journalists and critics who wrote in Russian are accepted, especially if not enough exists in English. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:05, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would create a draft in user space as evidence of notability, then request help at the WP:Administrator’s noticeboard explaining that the protecting admin is deceased and pointing to your draft that shows notability. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 23:23, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter A Peyser

Could someone take a look at the article references for "Peter A Peyser" and determine if the following is correct?: "|last=Times |first=James Feron Special to The New York".~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:30, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed at Peter A. Peyser (it's not part of the name). BTW, please WP:LINK the articles you refer to. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:19, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

My Sandbox

Hi, I am in a bit of a blind spot with the use of my sandbox. I have only used it once and the editor replied saying that I confusingly submitted my Draft from sandbox for review, which he declined anyway, adding to make sure I do not delete the the decline notice by editing with an overwrite in the same sandbox because I'd break the history thread. So, If I want to start afresh with practicing a new draft in sandbox, how do I do it? I hope it makes sense. Thank you Octabina (talk) 13:46, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: Reviewers are asking you to continue working from Draft:Guy Strazz and to not continue drafting content in another page. Just clear everything except review history from the linked page. If you're using the source editor, put the caret underneath ---- and press Ctrl+⇧ Shift+End to select everything underneath the review history and delete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina You can have more than one draft active at a time. David10244 (talk) 07:45, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Octabina: In this edit you copied an old AfC submission template from Draft:Guy Strazz to User:Octabina/sandbox. This meant you submitted the sandbox version, maybe unintentionally. Draft:Guy Strazz is now the only page where you should submit an article about Guy Strazz, and only by clicking the "Resubmit" button. You are allowed to work on changes in your sandbox but not submit it there, so I suggest you only work on Draft:Guy Strazz. If you want to use your sandbox for other purposes than Guy Strazz then you can move the current page to User:Octabina/Guy Strazz. PrimeHunter (talk)

I am having trouble logging in

I am having trouble logging in. Wikipedia claims an email has been sent with a log in code, but no email has been received. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 20:41, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48078-58 Assuming you have waited a while, and checked your junk mail folder, you could state your Wikipedia username here and I'll send you an email using Special:EmailUser. Then we can see whether emails are getting through. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:32, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Dunno if this is worth reporting anywhere but its like the fifth person in the last two weeks to say this across IRC, Discord, and the Help Desk/Teahouse. qcne (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - I waited (one day now.!) and checked junk. I know Wikipedia can send me emails because I had one from 'Wikimedia Trust & Safety' so I am with QCNE on this one - I think it's a fault at Wikipedia.

Anyway, for completeness - my user name is Charles.bowyer ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 21:01, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

I took a quick look on WP:Phabricator to see if this was reported but there are so many requests there I can't be sure! You might be best to ask at WP:VPT. My only other suggestion is that you attempt to log on to your account from a different device/browser, in case it is some obscure app problem. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:15, 6 September 2026 (UTC)

Mike - thanks. I tried from a different device and browser. Exactly the same problem. If I can't log on, it means I shall just have to start a new account, and lose my 10+ year history as a contributor. Which seems a pity. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:50, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would ask at WP:VPT and hopefully one of the WMF employees will see it and respond. qcne (talk) 09:04, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I have put a topic on WP:VPT. ~2026-48078-58 (talk) 08:53, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

The Espresso Lab hijacked and moved

The Espresso Lab was originally about a chain in the UAE but was hijacked by now-blocked user Gahex220 who rewrote it into one promoting the Turkish chain Espressolab and moved it to that name. I can't revert the move myself because the user subsequently attempted to speedy delete the redirect at the original name. The original is rather promotion-heavy as well so I wonder if it's even worth trying to restore rather than delete. Astro.furball (talk) 23:21, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Given that the hijack happened almost exactly 2 years ago, it gets a little more complex. Technically we should restore the original version and then WP:HISTSPLIT the new version off and deal with them as separate articles.

An easier method would be, if you find the Espressolab and Espresso Lab articles to both be worth deleting, then I would open an AfD and offer up the options of;

A. Revert to the original article

B. Delete the article entirely (thereby deleting both forms of the article at once)

C. Split both articles out independently (if indeed they should both be kept) Athanelar (talk) 09:16, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Genealogy

To Whom It May Concern,

I have often thought about how I would love to use this site for genealogical purposes—not just for raw research, but for recording historical narratives.

For example, I really appreciate how the pages for historical royalty are structured. You can see a complete history of the individual, who their partners were, when they got married, and any children they had. From there, you can easily click hyperlinks to their parents or children and read their stories as well. It is incredibly easy to navigate, and it is great to be able to view images of them as they grew up.

I know there are other tools out there, like WikiTree and the in-depth platform run by the LDS Church (FamilySearch). However, none of them provide a clean, accessible space for an individual to write a biography or autobiography that reads easily as a continuous narrative.

Anyway, I wanted to suggest that your team consider setting up a "Wikipedia for Genealogy." I have thought about putting something like this together myself, but it will have to wait a good 12 years until I retire.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Sean A. Shifflette ~2026-48604-39 (talk) 19:18, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Somebody else has started WikiTree, apparently it uses a fork of the MediaWiki software. TSventon (talk) 19:24, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

You can host (if you have the technical skills) your own version of MediaWiki (Wikipedia's software) or use one of the online providers of wiki sites, listed at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

How to get in touch with contributors that can publish English translations

•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/SIM-meditasjon
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/DB-System
•  Courtesy link: User:JeanetteBredsten/Deborah Borgen

Hi, I have translated 3 pages into English and saved them as drafts, as it says I can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page. Is there anyone that can help me publish them?

All the best – Jeanette JeanetteBredsten (talk) 08:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@JeanetteBredsten Who or what says [you] can't publish English translations of a Norwegian page? Your draft at Draft:Deborah Borgen was declined because you didn't demonstrate that the subject meets our definition of a notable person.

An important question, though, do you have any kind of personal or professional connection to the subjects you're writing about? Athanelar (talk) 09:09, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: See Wikipedia:Content translation tool#English Wikipedia restrictions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:05, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for the reply. It says that I can't publish in English because I'm not an experienced user. I can just publish it as a personal draft. I have not made new articles, just translated them into English. I saw that the other draft didn't meet the criteria, but it's hard to meet the criteria when many of the references is in Norwegian. I haven't changed the content.

How can I get them published or someone to review them? JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Where does it say that you can't publish in English? Are you trying to use the content translation tool? That's for translating the actual text, not getting it published.

You've already written the text in English, you now need to submit your drafts in the manner you've already done and get them past AfC review, but again, that means you need to demonstrate that the subject meets our requirements.

Do you have any personal or professional connection to the subjects of your articles? Athanelar (talk) 11:25, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I'm using the content translation tool, so that can be the issue. Thank you.

And yes, I work with Deborah, and we have people notifying us about that the wiki-page isn't in English and wondering why, as they get hits on Chat and Google where they refer to the Norwegian wiki-page.

Her method DB-System (including SIM) is international recognized, her books are sold worldwide, and the published research on her method is in Frontiers (3 published articles), so that's why I also wanted to translate it and publish it in English. I have not written the Norwegian ones.

I'll try to submit them as articles instead of the translation tool. :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

New accounts- new to the English Wikipedia, anyway- cannot directly create articles and must use the Article Wizard to create and submit drafts for review. (it's better to do it that way than in your personal sandbox which is more of a testing area, or subpages)

That an article exists on the Norwegian Wikipedia does not necessarily mean it can exist here, too. Each language Wikipedia is a separate project with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on the Norwegian Wikipedia is not necessarily acceptable here; it is up to the translator to make sure the article they are translating meets the requirements of this Wikipedia, which are usually stricter than others. 331dot (talk) 11:26, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Even if you can directly create articles, it is best to use the submission process until you have a history of having your submissions accepted. 331dot (talk) 11:27, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for this explanation! Now I understand more. :) All the best – Jeanette :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

JeanetteBredsten I see that you disclosed that you "work with" one person; then you need to formally disclose a conflict of interest(click for instructions). If you are editing as part of your job, you must disclose as a paid editor. 331dot (talk) 11:51, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. I will look at this too. And thank you for including links! :) I'm not an employee, just wanting to get her work world wide and with this - learning by doing :) JeanetteBredsten (talk) 11:54, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

One more thing I will advise you is that "wanting to get her work worldwide" is a promotional purpose; our only interest is in summarizing what published independent reliable sources have chosen on their own to say about a topic. Her work does not need to be worldwide already, but people need to have written about it already, so you have something to summarize. 331dot (talk) 11:59, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I see. Just to be sure – would these count as reliable sources:

https://www.frontiersin.org/news/2017/03/01/teach-yourself-everyday-happiness-with-imagery-training/

And:

https://usercontent.one/wp/uniquemindesp.dk/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Brain-training-against-depression.pdf?media=1742202856

+ The publish articles

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2016.00664/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/human-neuroscience/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00644/full

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychiatry/articles/10.3389/fpsyt.2022.793784/full JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Can you explain what these things have to do with Deborah, because it's not clear to me. Are they her research papers? 331dot (talk) 12:07, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It's research done on her method/work (DB-System). So it's not her research but research done by scientist and university. JeanetteBredsten (talk) 12:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

It might contribute to the notability of the DB system. As to her personal notability I'm less certain; it is not uncommon for someone's work to be notable but not them personally. 331dot (talk) 12:49, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

How to mark an edit request as completed

 Courtesy link: Talk:India Research Watch

I have carried out an edit request. I know I'm supposed to put {{edit COI|A}} to show that I've done so, but where do I put it? If I just drop it in the Talk page section it hangs out looking funny, and I feel like that wasn't correct; but experiments with putting it inside the edit request template failed miserably. The documentation is mostly about when and why to respond, but not how.

Also, the person who made the request got impatient and made it twice. Do I put the edit COI tag with each one? Or is there some appropriate way to note the duplicate? M kuhner (talk) 05:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Just replace the whole edit request template made by the original user. Athanelar (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

See this diff. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@M kuhner: You may be interested in Jackmcbarn's edit request helper script. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating a Wikipedia article for Mario Paniccia

I’m interested in understanding whether Dr. Mario Paniccia would meet Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for a biographical article, and what the best process would be for having an independent editor assess and potentially create one.

Paniccia previously held senior roles at Intel, where he led the development and commercialization of silicon photonics, and he is now CEO and co-founder of ANELLO Photonics, working on silicon-photonics-based inertial navigation technology for GPS-denied environments.

There appears to be independent media and industry coverage of his work and career. Would an experienced Wikipedia editor be able to advise whether the available sources are sufficient to establish notability and, if so, what the appropriate next step would be for proposing an article? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 23:59, 4 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems, GerhardBoiciuc, that you're hoping that other editors will spend their time googling/duckduckgoing/bingeing for good sources on Paniccia, will decide that yes, the sources are sufficient, and will then create an article. But that's not going to happen. We're volunteers, busily doing our own things. Or rather, most of us are. A small percentage will be keen to have you pay for the promise of an article. See Wikipedia:Scam warning. If you happen to be an employee of (or intern at) Anello Photonics, see Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia; if you happen to be a co-founder, see Wikipedia:Autobiographies. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:52, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. That’s helpful. Yes, I work with ANELLO Photonics, so I understand there is a potential conflict of interest and I don’t want to create or edit an article in a way that would be inappropriate.

My intent was really to understand the correct process. I’m happy to do the work of identifying independent, reliable sources covering Mario Paniccia’s career and contributions, particularly his work in silicon photonics at Intel and subsequently in inertial navigation.

Once I’ve assembled those sources, would the appropriate next step be to submit a draft through Articles for Creation and disclose my connection to ANELLO, or is there a better route you would recommend? GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 01:15, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

GerhardBoiciuc, thank you for saying that you're working with Anello (and thereby with Paniccia). I suppose that you either are being paid or are expecting to be paid, either for this particular work or for this as part of a larger work. This would make you a paid contributor, which is something you would be required to disclose, conspicuously. (See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. And while I'm giving/forwarding advice: I presume that you have digested Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia, but that you haven't been swayed by it. Be sure to show Paniccia Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.) If you're still determined to create a draft, then before you start writing anything, here (in this thread) try providing links to three of the best sources about him. Each of the three should be a secondary source, and written and published independently of him or any company that has employed him or that he has run, and informative. By looking at these three, one or two people frequenting this help desk will probably be able to gauge Paniccia's notability (as defined here) and thus the viability of an article about him. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 05:27, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @HoaryHoary. This is very helpful and gives me a much clearer understanding of the process. I’ll make sure my affiliation with ANELLO Photonics is properly disclosed moving forward.

Rather than trying to draft an article myself, I’m going to take your advice and first identify the strongest independent secondary sources about Mario Paniccia. I’ll come back to this thread with three sources and hopefully you and/ot others can assess whether there is a sufficient basis for notability before taking this any further.

Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:23, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Hoary. I did some more digging, particularly into coverage from Mario Paniccia’s time at Intel. Here are three sources that seem to be among the stronger ones I found:

Scientific American (2004) — “The 2004 Scientific American 50 Award: Research Leaders”

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-2004-scientific-american-50-award-research-leaders-2004-11-11/

Scientific American selected Mario as its Research Leader in Computing and discusses his work leading the development of silicon photonics technology at Intel.

Forbes (2005) — “Intel Teaches Silicon New Tricks”

https://www.forbes.com/2005/02/16/cz_ec_0216intc.html

This article covers the early development of silicon photonics at Intel, Mario’s role in building and leading the program, and the significance of the work, including comments from researchers and analysts outside Intel.

optics.org (2009) — “Intel turns to photonics to extend Moore’s law”

https://optics.org/article/40732

This is a longer feature about Mario and Intel’s Photonics Technology Lab, covering their work on silicon lasers, modulators and photodetectors and the development of the technology toward integrated systems.

Would appreciate your thoughts on whether these are the kind of independent secondary sources you had in mind and whether they provide a reasonable basis for notability.

Thanks again for the guidance! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:32, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Apologies - Replaced broken link from optics.org - no idea why it's not working now - with additional accessible source:

1. Photonics Spectra (2008) — “Silicon Lasers Approach Mid-IR” https://www.photonics.com/Articles/Silicon-Lasers-Approach-Mid-IR/a32531

This article covers advances in silicon Raman lasers, Mario’s role in the research, and the potential applications and commercial significance of the technology. GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 18:42, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

My quick evaluation is that these three sources are marginal at best. The Scientific American article is probably the best, but only a single short paragraph discusses Paniccia. It couldn't really be called "in-depth". The Forbes article and the Optics article are both about the work done by the Intel lab and not about Paniccia himself. Both of them contain quotes from Paniccia but barely mention him otherwise. If you're trying to write an article about Paniccia the person, then we need sources that discuss the person himself in detail, not organizations that he was affiliated with or the work they did. CodeTalker (talk) 21:12, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks @CodeTalker Based on your feedback, I went back and looked specifically for independent coverage of Mario Paniccia himself rather than articles primarily about Intel or his work.

I found this long-form profile in Uncrewed Systems:

“In conversation: Mario Paniccia”

https://www.uncrewed-systems.com/in-conversation-mario-paniccia/

It covers his background, education, career at Intel, the development of Intel’s silicon photonics program, his subsequent career, leadership approach, and some personal background.

Would this be closer to the type and depth of coverage you mean? I realize it is interview-based, so I’d also be interested in whether you would consider it sufficiently secondary for establishing notability.

For additional context, he has also been elected to the National Academy of Engineering and as a Fellow of IEEE, SPIE and OSA/Optica, and has received recognition including Scientific American’s Research Leader in Computing, R&D Magazine’s Scientist of the Year, and EE Times’ Innovator of the Year. I realize these distinctions don’t replace the need for substantial independent coverage, but I thought they might be relevant to the overall notability assessment.

Your feedback has been very helpful in understanding the distinction. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:29, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc An interview article contains what Paniccia wanted to say about himself, and that doesn't help. Instead, you would need articles that are by the reporter alone, with no input from Paniccia. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@GerhardBoiciuc I would suggest you read WP:Advice for paid editors (as well as everything Hoary has said) Athanelar (talk) 09:34, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, @Athanelar. I appreciate the recommendation. I’ll read the guidance for paid editors and make sure I understand and follow the disclosure and conflict-of-interest requirements before proceeding further. Thanks! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 16:24, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, there is not a potential conflict of interest - it's an absolutely certain conflict of interest, and should not be described as "potential". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:59, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed @TooManyFingers and thanks for the clarification. You’re correct. Given my role at ANELLO, I evidently have a conflict of interest here.

If the available independent sources ultimately support a standalone article, I think it would be more appropriate for it to be written and evaluated by someone independent of me, with any disclosures made transparently.

For now, I’m primarily trying to understand whether the independent sourcing is sufficient to establish notability before taking this any further. Thanks again! GerhardBoiciuc (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2026 (UTC)

Nigerian Insurgency map change

In the map for the Insurgency in nigeria, there is no verification that the city of Amaseri is controlled by IPOB or any other forces, and the Nigerian army even has a training depot in the city. I think it should be changed to show government control.

Source Kritzerdagoat (talk) 15:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Kritzerdagoat. The best place to discuss changes to an article is on that article's talk page, in this case Talk:Boko Haram insurgency. ColinFine (talk) 16:11, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Werner Roth

Hi, Werner Roth (footballer, born 1925) and Werner Roth (soccer, born 1948) were moved from Werner Roth (footballer) and Werner Roth (soccer), but these two redirects should be pointed to the disambiguation page Werner Roth, as they are ambiguous. Could someone please do that? I am also notifying @Axolitl, who moved the articles. Thanks. ~2026-48609-01 (talk) 17:58, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I was going to do this when I closed the move, but I had concerns about the introduction of a large amount of dab links. Thank you Andy for fixing it. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 22:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Reference flagged as unacceptable, but the error message didn't say which one

I recently created Old Skies and when I was ready to submit it, I received an automated message saying that there were references that were not acceptable on Wikipedia due to a reference being a blog or other such source (I unfortunately did not save the exact error message). However, the automated message didn't say which reference was unacceptable. I attempted removing pieces of the article through trial and error to figure out which was the problem, but the message went away and it allowed me to publish the whole article unchanged. Is there some way I can get more information on which reference was problematic? Thunderforge (talk) 19:42, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Thunderforge: It takes some digging to work out but it was https://wadjeteye.substack.com/p/new-old-skies-demo-available. The filter gives a warning but does allow to publish the edit as said in MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-blog. I haven't evaluated the source. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for checking that. The website is the official blog of the game's creator. Is that an official enough source? Or is it better to remove it? Thunderforge (talk) 23:13, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Self-published sources such as that are acceptable in some cases; it depends what kind of claim(s) they're supporting. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:17, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

In this case, it's that a demo was released on a certain date (part of the article's "Development" section). So that seems acceptable. Thanks again for the investigation! Thunderforge (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Switching archive bots

We could use some help at Talk:People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals#Archiving. The talk page uses MiszaBot, which is apparently defunct. A previous attempt to switch to ClueBot III did not work as intended. —Myceteae‍🍄‍🟫 (talk) 21:48, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Resolved there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:16, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

meritocracy

meritocracy and inequality- exploring a complex relationship ~2026-48810-96 (talk) 07:14, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

That's not a question; if it's meant to be one, please clarify.

If you were trying to search Wikipedia, you may do so at Special:Search. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Additions to specialized characters in the editor?

What I would like is the Lunate Sigma (both Capital and lower case) (which look like the Latin Alphabet letter C and c respectively) to be added to the "Greek extended" list in the choices in the source editor. This is different from the final sigma which is just prior to the Capital Tau in the greek section. Any suggestions on where to ask?Naraht (talk) 04:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) seems like the place to suggest this addition. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:35, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) is the more appropriate venue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:56, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: I don't know how often it's needed but you can copy-paste it from somewhere like lunate sigma. In case you don't know, any Unicode character can be copy-pasted or given by its encoding like Ϲ and ϲ to produce Ϲ and ϲ. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I know that I can copy paste. Still annoying considering the *wide* variety of Greek Letters in Greek Extended.Naraht (talk) 14:09, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: If you have a drop-down menu including "Greek" below the edit area then you can add the characters there with this in your common JavaScript:

window.charinsertCustom = {
 "Greek": ' Custom: Ϲ ϲ',
};

I don't know a similar way to modify the menu above the edit area. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter It says "Cannot Install" up above next to the page name. And when I add it to the page, this doesn't show up. :( (User:Naraht/common.js)Naraht (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: At which url are you seeing "Cannot Install"? Did it happen before or after adding my code? Do you have the mentioned drop-down menu below the edit area with "Greek" (not "Greek extended") as one of the options? You have to click a down-arrow to see the options. If you have it then I don't know which option is currently displayed for you. It remembers your latest choice and might say "Insert" or "Wiki markup". It's not part of the toolbar and is completely different from the "Special characters" option there. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:47, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter Even without the addition of the above javascript. So something else is broken? I do have the "Greek Extended" in the area on the left of the area above the edit window during editing. And that didn't appear to show up there even after the alt-reload.Naraht (talk) 23:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

@Naraht: My code does NOT affect "Greek extended". It adds the characters in a completely different menu BELOW the edit area, right above the edit summary. If you have no menu between the edit area and edit summary then what is your browser and skin? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:05, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

PrimeHunter I see them now, the Greek just above the edit summary, at the end after the {{lang|grc|}} is Custom with those.Naraht (talk) 09:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

ကျန်နော်ဘာမှနားမလည်တော်ဘူးရှင်းပြမဲ့လူရှိမှကျန်နော်ရတော့မှာ ကျန်နော်စိတ်ညစ်တာ

ကျန်နော့အတွက် ခများတို့ဘာကူညီနိုင်လည်ကျန်နာ်တကယ်မးတာ ~2026-48765-47 (talk) 09:32, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

This is the English Wikipedia, please use English. If you only speak Myanmar, please use the Myanmar Wikipedia.

ဒါက အင်္ဂလိပ်ဝီကီပီးဒီးယားပါ၊ အင်္ဂလိပ်လိုသုံးပါ။ မြန်မာစကားပဲပြောတတ်ရင် မြန်မာဝီကီပီးဒီးယားကိုသုံးပါ။ 331dot (talk) 09:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

... which has a help desk at my:ဝီကီပီးဒီးယား:အကူအညီစားပွဲ. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

headquarted ?

There are about 22 hits on the word. Previous uses have been changed to headquartered. What is the preferred word. If the latter is can someone do one of those mass changes thing?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:41, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

As far I know, "headquarted" is not a standard English word; I assume it's just a typo. "Headquartered" is fine. Matt Deres (talk) 16:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I agree with Matt Deres. But you can probably answer most such questions yourself. Note that English-language Wiktionary (which has become surprisingly comprehensive) has an entry for "headquartered" but hasn't for "headquarted". Also, note that Google Ngram Viewer shows vanishingly few tokens of "headquarted". (Be careful with Ngram Viewer. A quick look at it may suggest that, as an example, "intention" is right and "intension" is wrong. True, tokens of "intension" may be and perhaps often are misspellings of "intention", but "intension" exists as a separate word in its own right, with an unrelated meaning.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:56, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

22 changes is probably too few to make it worth setting up an automated batch edit. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

 Done. All but a couple which are part of web citations with that spelling, presumably as an error. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Indexing

Hello! I recently created an article titled I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana. It currently has a noindex tag. Could someone please review it so it can be indexed? Thank you! Kiminoto (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Draft:I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana because the subject does not appear to meet our notability criteria.

I see from your talk page that you are familiar with the AfC process, where the article was previously declined as needing further work several times, and then fully rejected. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Andy FYI the OP has just expanded the article somewhat and put it back in mainspace, leaving the draft in place. You might like to propose WP:AFD if you think it still doesn't meet WP:GNG. Mike Turnbull (talk) 09:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. The only change since draftification is the addition of three citations to a single source, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Kiminoto While the AfC process is not mandatory, being declined (and especially rejected) at AfC means that the subject of your article is not fit for mainspace. Evading that feedback and pushing your article to mainspace anyway, especially repeatedly as you have done, is tendentious editing. Incidentally, your persistence in communicating with other editors using AI is also disruptive. Please heed the feedback you're receiving from other editors before you stumble headlong into sanctions. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I understand the point being made; however, I did not use AI in my writing, and the references provided—including those in the cited article—remain relevant to the subject matter. Furthermore, the article meets the standards for scholarly publication and adheres to the applicable guidelines regarding accuracy. Kiminoto (talk) 11:19, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Your whole communication and indeed the article you created smells strongly of LLM usage. I have the strong suspicion you are writing about yourself, btw. But just in case have a look at WP:COI too. Lectonar (talk) 11:33, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I simply read the references and create Wikipedia articles; I’ve always enjoyed writing. By the way, could the article be published based on those references and the suitability of the information? :D For both the draft and the published articles, I have written the content in accordance with the provided references. Kiminoto (talk) 11:41, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I think a pattern of WP:NOTHERE is starting to emerge:

1. Creation of article in main after the draft was rejected.
2. Multiple warning of their talk page for LLM, COI & vandalism (bludgeoning) by 3 different reviewers.
3. Resisting CSD of a draft while the duplicate in main is undergoing AfD.
4. Creation of a Wikidata page and adding themselves to a disambiguation of surname to buttress claims to notability.

Ldm1954 (talk) 13:09, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Given this comment, I tending more to think WP:CIR is the issue. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe it was wrong to publish that article, as it is based on the provided references and has been written up on a Wikipedia page; therefore, the article should not be deleted. Kiminoto (talk) 14:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, the fact that they responded to most of the pasted-in WP:NPROF with responses like the bizarre "true selected publiction" and "true selected news in faculty" makes it quite clear that we're mostly talking to Mr. ChatGPT or maybe Monsieur Claude.

They don't appear to have even comprehended the NPROF bullet points at all given some of their replies. For example, this 22-year-old with a bachelor's degree certainly does not have a distinguished professor appointment or a named chair appointment, nor is anything so suggested in the article (which doesn't even mention him being a professor at all). But we're assured "true selected publiction." CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 14:39, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Note: a few hours ago they made an undeletion request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#I Komang Gede Jefri Suparjana before anything has been deleted, so maybe Mr ChatGPT + CIR. Ldm1954 (talk) 14:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Whereas this change appears to be plain dishonesty. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:23, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The latest changes reflect the most recent revisions; this discussion can now be closed, as the article is in good shape and appears to satisfy the requirements regarding references or the key figures involved in the innovation's development Kiminoto (talk) 17:06, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

random articles

it used to be possible to quest for random articles in wikipedia, this was a nice function for example for sleepless nights.

where is it? could it be reinstated?

thanks mh ~2026-48706-44 (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48706-44: If you click on the button in the top-left corner of the page, a dropdown menu will appear with "Random article" as an option. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:20, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, if you are using a screen reader, the menu represented by the three lines image that Tenryuu has used between "the" and "button" in their message is labeled as "Main Menu" and should be one of the first things a screen reader will navigate to on a page. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this correct? Posted in table in article: "Gaura Barhaj"

(Redacted) ~2026-47100-73 (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks -- removed. THe article should not have been used for private communications. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:04, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

On second thoughts, could an admin please revdel Gaura Barhaj under WP:RD4 back to (including) the 11 August edit. ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 00:08, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

I think all page revisions of every page that user has edited should maybe be revdeled for that reason. (The other one was an immediate revert by ClueBot, though, so there's only one revision that should need to be suppressed.) - Purplewowies (talk) 08:20, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the confidence Purplewowies. Just exactly is the reference to the "other one" being ClueBot so i can better undeterstand your assumption?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 15:50, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

The temp account that added the edit you were inquiring about did something similar in its other edit, but ClueBot reverted it so it didn't stick around for multiple revisions. I was trying to be nonspecific so people didn't go looking. I'd probably have gone through the actual process to get those revdeled myself instead of saying it here, but this is apparently not my day (more specifically, when I suggested it last night it was at an hour where I've learned to try not to make edits and such that require complex thought, and now I'm both sick and busy... sigh). - Purplewowies (talk) 21:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

An apology is lacking in that explanation except to say after going into the cocktail party you slapped someone then explained you had one too many and the other party not enough to understand the logic. Is the history of the post clear that someone posted content to an article that was found through the strategies i use in reviewing WP, corrected what i could then posted the existence in help so that those more confident in their skill set could offer resolution? That was completed by the first respoder. The reaction of the WP software is not an indication that vandalism has happened but that something out of the ordinary has occurred. I use the term vandalism because it seems that conclusion was jumped to instead of being more cautious. Avoiding due diligence is not being cautious especially for someone at your level of involvement in WP. Spare me from what anyone can view yet i am left to defend my position without clear points and I having to point out the faulty presumption that never existed--vandalism on my part. I am to be subjected to bringing attention to something that even at my low level of WP interaction think is doubtful? Have i thanked you yet? I am going to avoid the issue of temporary user names because the optics so far do not look good despite the profuse expression in your talk page. WP will always have issues and you wonder why people vandalise. I wonder why is it that so many approaches to temporary user names seem to jump to the conclusion that it is vandalism. No need to make things more complex than what need be.~2026-47100-73 (talk) 02:46, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

...Huh? I don't think anyone involved here including you is vandalizing; I think everyone here was operating in good faith. Perhaps I shouldn't have said anything initially and waited to see if I could follow the proper processes for requesting revdel later when I had a clearer head? (Something I still don't have today. Oof.) I'm confused about what you're trying to say. - Purplewowies (talk) 17:59, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

How to report someone

 Courtesy link: Karakavak, Yeşilyurt

There’s a user that can edit on contentious topics. The user that im refering uses sources that talk about a specific region or ethnicity of Turkey and use that as a source to put “This x settlement is Kurdish” however that source does not say anything about that settlement, the user just creates these sites to say that that one x village is Kurdish. I want to demand wikipedia to check the sources after that preferably delete the users edits and pages since almost all of them will be proven fake once any admin checks the given source(that says nothing releated to what they have written). And i need help to do all of this, im all here for the truth to be revealed. Please help me with it. DrMalatya (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@DrMalatya Kurds and Kurdistan is a contentious topic, and is subject to the extended-confirmed restriction. Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits and discuss this topic area. You may not participate in discussions concerning the topic, including noticeboards here, until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Alright, how can i get a higher positioned member to check someone’s sources? i do point out wrong information in the talk page since anyone has that right, however the user does add random stuff to pages that is not mentioned in the source at all. Thats the problem, i just wanted people to know the context to help me. DrMalatya (talk) 18:52, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I do know that the sources that they have given don’t mention what they wrote but to confirm and take action to prevent this is another persons duty. Thats why i need help. DrMalatya (talk) 18:54, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

You can't do anything until you are extended-confirmed. qcne (talk) 19:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Qcne Per WP:CT/KURD I don't see where it says it's under a 30/500 rule. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

331dot, rightly or wrongly , when I preview {{subst:alert|kurd}}, it says Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area, though editors who are not extended-confirmed may post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area on article talk pages. It would make life easier for new editors (and admins) if the WP:CT guidance was easier to access and easier to understand. TSventon (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. I take what the alert template says to mean "can't edit articles or participate in internal discussions, but may offer constructive comments about article content and make edit requests." So it's weaker than the Arab-Israeli conflict 30/500 rule. I learned something. :) 331dot (talk) 20:15, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

And my thoughts were, what the OP has posted is definitely not constructive. qcne (talk) 20:17, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Agreed. 331dot (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Someone asking for people to check the sources to prevent hoaxes are not bad. DrMalatya (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @DrMalatya. It absolutely is in the hostile way you have done above. You should also read Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth. qcne (talk) 20:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

My intentions were not evil and i did not target anyone. Im trying to help the community in some way, thanks for trying to help. DrMalatya (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

No one has said you were evil. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@331dot: See WP:GS/KURD, which is a supplement to the ArbCom CTOP. (AA2 has a similar provision.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 20:55, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, bingo. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Help with a draft

A translation I was working on was moved to draftspace while it was being expanded and has now been recreated. What should be done now? I thought perhaps requesting a histmerge because the talkpage was also moved. Moondragon21 (talk) 08:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Link, please. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:27, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The link was there: Draft:Ollie_Millroy. The problem seems to be that we also have Ollie Millroy with different content. My suggestion would be for @Moondragon21 to edit in any useful material to the live article and let User:M1GHTY M4VS do the same before deleting the draft. I'm not sure that a history merge is required but I'm not an expert on that. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:53, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah, "mystery meat". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, and that was equally mysterious to me until I found mystery meat navigation! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

I will request a merge. Moondragon21 (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

The WP:HISTMERGE was rejected. Moondragon21 (talk) 22:34, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Do i have an account and how to find it and my log on

i contribute every month. Do I have an account. How do I find my account info and log in. ~2026-49018-19 (talk) 00:32, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49018-19: Does "contribute" refer to donations or edits? Donations are not linked to user accounts and you can donate without having an account. If you have edited while logged in to an account then try clicking the "View history" tab on a page you have edited and look for your edit and username. If you have stored an email address in an account (this is optional) then you can also try Special:PasswordReset. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

About articles for TV networks

I'm wondering if MOS:FIRSTCORP applies to TV networks...

I ask because it seems like there's inconsistency in how the policy is applied to articles about TV networks (more specifically, how the TV network is introduced in the first sentence in the article's lede section), whether for over-the-air or pay-TV in the US, or even for international TV networks:

For the US -

• Some articles for TV networks have the very first sentence in the lede section referencing the TV network's legal name (like "CBS Broadcasting, Inc." for CBS or "Cable News Network, Inc." for CNN)
• Some have it referencing a full/formal name the TV network no longer uses (like "Home Box Office" for HBO or "Home & Garden Television" for HGTV)
• Some have it referencing an initialism that the TV network uses as its on-air/public-facing branding (like "NBC" for NBC)

For the international market-

• Some articles have it referencing the TV network's full/formal name (like "Global Television Network" for Global Television Network in Canada, "Channel 4" for Channel 4 in the UK, "Seven Network" for Seven Network in Australia, "Three" for Three in New Zealand)

So, just because it's driving me crazy to see policy not being consistently applied to articles, I'd like to know whether or not MOS:FIRSTCORP policy applies to articles about TV networks. ClarkKentWannabe (talk) 03:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I do not believe there's any reason for FIRSTCORP to not apply, so I think it does apply. Make sure that the commonly used name remains quite prominent despite any changes you make; that may prevent some unnecessary fighting. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:00, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans (BLP PROD)

Is the "do not edit here" banner on this article "enforceable"? Has this been added because speedy deletion isn't otherwise available? Mme Maigret (talk) 11:37, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera-Herrans is a redirect to Epic: The Musical.

If you mean the latter's "Note: This page is semi-protected so that only autoconfirmed users can edit it. If you need help getting started with editing, please visit the Teahouse." edit-notice, then yes, it is; see WP:Semi-Protection.

If not, please clarify to which banner you refer. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realise there were two pages with this name (and the only difference was a hyphen vs an en dash). Also, I should have left a link. The page and version that I meant was this one. Mme Maigret (talk) 09:16, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. In that case, the answer is "no", and given the shoddy state of the draft referred to, you were right to ignore it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:32, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Resolved

What counts as a proper source?

•  Courtesy link: voluntary childlessness
•  Courtesy link: Paul Dolan (behavioural scientist)

I have a question about what counts as proper source, on the voluntary childlessness article there was a statement saying "and those who never married or have children are among the happiest subgroup in the United States." This then refers to a guardian interview with the researcher Paul Dolan. The guardian article does not say "amongst the happiest" but states that childfree women are the happiest subgroup whilst not specifying America.

"but now the science backs it up: unmarried and childless women are the happiest subgroup in the population." "The healthiest and happiest population subgroup are women who never married or had children,” he said."

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

1 - The ATUS study does not show childless women are the happiest subgroup in the United States. 2 - Paul Dolan’s book heavily references the ATUS study where amongst other he misunderstood what "Spouse Absent" meant, believing it was about the spouse being physically there or not. Believing that people were more inclined to state they were unhappy when the spouse was outside the room. 3 - The guardian article references a statement Dolan made at a literature festival with no study behind it.

Is this a strong enough source to make the definite claim that childfree/unmarried women are the amongst the happiest subgroup in the united states given Dolan's misunderstanding and reliance on the ATUS study? Ellie96s (talk) 10:11, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

This is already being discussed in this lengthy chunk of the article's talk page. Attempting to start a parallel discussion about it here is not helpful. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 11:17, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Im the one who started it there. The person who keeps on reverting it back doesnt engage with the talk i started. Im asking about clarification about what constitutes a source.

Verifiability: In Wikipedia's sense, material is verifiable if it can be directly supported by at least one reliable, published source. Verifiability is not determined by whether the material has already been supplied with an inline citation. The guardian article doesnt meet this definition in my mind, im asking if that is accurate.

WP:NEWSOPED

in but are rarely reliable for statements of fact also goes against the guardian article. Ellie96s (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

We have the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Wikipedia:Dispute resolution offers several options. The Help Desk isn't an appropriate place to discuss content disputes. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:39, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not asking about the content dispute, I am asking about if a guardian interview with no study to back it up is a proper source for a definitive statement about human psychology. I'm asking for clarification on what constitutes a source, that's why i linked WP:NEWSOPED and Verifiability. Ellie96s (talk) 13:50, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Cologne Blue

Hi, I've just dropped out of Cologne Blue for some reason and need to get back into it. I can select it in preferences as its disappeared off the list. I'm not keen of field of white and endless error messages. How to I reapply it. Thanks. I'm far from home. scope_creep^Talk 11:21, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: You're going to want to check out WP:SKIN § Deprecated skins. There's a link to go to the skin in question and apply the changes in there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:07, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Tenryuu: Its allowed me to save it but its not actually saved the skin and changed the interface. scope_creep^Talk 13:47, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: I tested it out, and I was able to navigate to different pages with the skin persisting across all of them. To confirm, did you click on the Cologne Blue link, change the skin to Cologne Blue, then click Save? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:31, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Your recent edits have been from the mobile version. Click "Desktop view" at the bottom of any page. The skin setting only applies to desktop. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

@Tenryuu:, @PrimeHunter: Thanks folks. For some reason I slipped into mobile view which I've never used up until now. Cheers. scope_creep^Talk 15:26, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Why

Why does Wiki, keep requesting financial support every time I go on it??

I already paid twice now but I still get these annoying interruptions, its putting me off using it and I certainly won't give anymore. ~2026-48938-57 (talk) 08:40, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello. Donations are optional. If you want to hide the donation banner, you can can create a free account and hide it in your User account preferences. Alternatively, you could use an adblock to block the donation banner element.

Editors on Wikipedia don't control the donation banners, for feedback you need to email the Foundation directly at donate@wikimedia.org. qcne (talk) 08:43, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48938-57.

Nothing in the Wikipedia (neither the software nor any volunteers) knows anything about who has or has not donated. Seeing the banner is like seeing an advertisement every time you walk up your street - it has no way not to show itself to people who have donated.

As Qcne says, if you create an account (which will not be in any way connected with your donations), you can set a preference not to see the banner when you are logged in. ColinFine (talk) 15:27, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Help regarding SSMB-EUV

I published a article without Help:Unreviewed new page, it was withdrawn, so now i want help of other editors, to improve the article. Steady-state microbunching(SSMB), it is an important article because it explores alternative source of producing EUV light with the help of accelerator, like Free-electron laser+Energy recovery linac. Readers should know about it because it's a highly promising approach. Sayanpdd (talk) 16:38, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

These are some of the sources :

Weak-Strong Steady-State Microbunching Accelerator Light Source

Steady-State Micro-Bunching based on Transverse-Longitudinal Coupling

Microbunching illuminates new technological horizon

PDF Recent progress of SSMB EUV light source project at Tsinghua University

PPTX High-power EUV Light Source Based on Steady-state ... - Indico

Confirming the theoretical foundation of steady-state microbunching

Update of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Progress of Tsinghua SSMB EUV

Useful formulas and example parameters set for the design of SSMB storage rings Sayanpdd (talk) 17:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

You're asking about a draft, Sayanpdd. It's not an article. It was an article, but EatingCarBatteries moved it to Draft:Steady-state microbunching, giving "machine-generated" as the reason for doing so. I don't notice any denial that it was "machine" (which I presume means LLM) -generated. Was it LLM-generated? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 12:01, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

some of it yes, and for sources, now I am asking other editor to review it and make changes and improve the draft for publishing. I post some sources from academic and scientific paper like nature, indico, Tsinghua University and research organisation like KEK, Japan. Sayanpdd (talk) 12:08, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't really work that way. Drafts get reviewed, to a limited extent, but the reviewer isn't expected to makes substantive changes - that's down to you if you want it accepted. You could maybe try asking for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics, but there's no guarantee you'll get any response. We are volunteers here, and tend to work on subjects we are interested in, and hopefully have some understanding of. Your draft concerns a complex technical subject, and anyone making substantive edits clearly needs subject-matter knowledge. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:45, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

i asked some accelerator specialist from Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Members to look in this subject and make changes. Let's see. Sayanpdd (talk) 16:14, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Revert using draftification and speedy deletion to trim page history

Does the following sequence of moves need attention?

1. IsroIsro exists;
2. An editor draftifies IsroIsro → Draft:IsroDraft:Isro;
3. The editor moves this draft to a non-existing user, with redirect: Draft:IsroDraft:Isro → User:Ee;
4. The editor edits the newly-created draft Draft:IsroDraft:Isro to point to a desired target;
5. The editor moves this edited draft to the original page over redirect: Draft:IsroDraft:Isro → IsroIsro;
6. Later the same day, that user page User:Ee is speedily deleted per WP:U2.

Step 2-5 all happened within 10 minutes, performed by the same editor.

My main concern is that: the history of the preexisting IsroIsro page is now lost with the deletion, and the latest Special:History/Isro is effectively trimmed with only 3 entries left. The preexisting IsroIsro may be a redirect already or with actual content; may be a new page or an older page with substantial history; yet the justification to trim that page history is now lost.

Then if my concern is right, where would be the page to request assistance to fix/revert the moves? — Peterwhy (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Indeed. That's not right. I've undone the whole sequence. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:19, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Blooplax links

Hi, I run blooplax.uk, a website for discovering historic plaques. It's a non-profit location finder for commemorative plaques. I thought these locations might be of interest to people reading wikipedia pages about filming locations etc. I’ve added a few external links to individual plaque pages where I thought the location and inscription would help readers, and received a warning about repeated external-link additions. So I’ve paused further additions. Could someone review whether these links are appropriate and advise whether I should remove the ones already added? I understand that my connection to the website creates a conflict of interest and the last thing I’d like to make sure I’m contributing appropriately! SummersDad (talk) 20:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Sounds like spam to me

And since you're using OpenPlaques data, and directing people wanting to report errors to that site, then links to OpenPlaques, if we are to have links at all, would seem to be more beneficial. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:57, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not spam. It does a completely different job to OpenPlaques in that it shows the locations - that's the entire point of it. I'm trying to contribute useful content here. SummersDad (talk) 10:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I would suggest that the proper venue to obtain consensus for this is probably this part of the Village Pump. 331dot (talk) 11:36, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

OpenPlaques shows locations. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:28, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Maintenance tag on Hugh Shields page

My latest editing (using visual editor) of the Wikipedia article on Hugh Shields has received a maintenance tag with template "Independent sources". It happened when I tried to include a new subsection Discography. I tried unsuccessfully to resolve this manually.

I see from my history that my Wikipedia editor Guliolopez remarks that "Almost 100% of the sources here are (now) works poublished by the subject or by the society (societies?) founded by the subject. Far from ideal."

The source Guliolopez refers to is https://folkmusicsocietyofireland.wordpress.com/

The Discography section which triggered the tag did contain refrences to the source in question.Is it sufficient for me to remove most of the references to this source in order to remove this tag? Or what should I do?

[curprev 19:16, 9 September 2026 Guliolopez talk contribs  24,858 bytes +24  Almost 100% of the sources here are (now) works published by the subject or by the society (societies?) founded by the subject. Far from ideal. undothank] Wildboarwk (talk) 11:30, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, your editing did not "trigger" the maintenance tag, another editor came across the article and added the tag based upon their own judgement. You should find more independent sources and use those to reference facts in the article. A Wikipedia article should primarily be composed of what other unaffiliated people have chosen to write about the subject, not what they wanted people to know about themselves. Lack of independent sources also raises questions about notability. ^purring_maggot (talk) 04:41, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@Wildboarwk The discography change was almost certainly not their main concern; it's that the entire article is in very poor shape because the sources are from (or influenced by) Shields or his associates. This is a valid reason to delete the whole article, and the way to fix it is to show where reporters and critics who have no connection with Shields have written major articles about him without consulting him. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:30, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Custom Username Formatting

Would you be so kind as to advise me on how to create a customised user signatures at the end of my posts. You know, the ones that are delivered by four tildes. I see colourful ones, ones with built in shapes, and different fonts. Do you know how these are made? Thank you. Pablothepenguin (talk) 15:03, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pablothepenguin: See Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:21, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia page for Hans Dieter Sues

Please accurately identify the skull Prof Sues is holding in the picture. This cannot be Brontosaurus because that is a made up name from the past. There is no such dinosaur. It is most likely an Apatosaurus but I am not an expert. Please consult an expert to identify the specimen. Thank You ~2026-49246-60 (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Hans-Dieter Sues

Brontosaurus actually existed, unfortunately for your argument. See Talk:Brontosaurus#Brontosaurus never existed? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:14, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49246-60 Lots of detail in the hits for this Google scholar search. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Recovered old account. How to proceed?

I thought that my old email address wasn't associated with a Wikimedia account, but after some more digging I found an old account. It hasn't been used in 3 years (besides for when I just logged on and requested an account vanish) and has a grand total of six edits. I don't plan on using it again, as this current account is more established, but wanted to request help to proceed in the correct way (don't want to be accused of sockpuppetry!). I can privately provide proof of 'ownership' of the account - I still have access to the email address if it's requested.

Thanks so much!

A.origami.frog (talk) 15:53, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

@A.origami.frog You could just edit the user page of that account to state that it's a WP:VALIDALT of your present account and then leave it alone. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:28, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Can I use sessiondays.com to verify background singer's work

I am researching to write an article on background singer and vocal coach to the movie MICHAEL, Stephanie Spruill. A large body of her work from the 1970s to 2000 is noted on sessiondays.com at https://sessiondays.com/2021/06/05/stephanie-spruill/ Can I use sessiondays.com as a reference source? Linwoods96 (talk) 19:42, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Linwoods96. On a quick look, it looks to me as if sessiondays is a personal project, without robust editorial control. But the best place to ask about whether or not it is a reliable source is at WP:RSN. ColinFine (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

If she was credited properly for her work (i.e. was not uncredited and wasn't Alan Smithee'd) a source is unnecessary - looking at the credits would immediately verify it. However, this still would not help for eligibility. (And since she's effectively backstage personnel, you're going to have a tough time finding sources.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 23:40, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

@Linwoods96 Think of it this way: I could easily provide proof that I've shown up for work at the appropriate times and done what I was supposed to do. Merely showing up and doing her job - which is exactly what sessiondays demonstrates - is not useful on Wikipedia except as background. The main thing must be opinions on her career, from reliable sources where she had no influence (e.g. no interview-based articles and no announcements of anything). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:46, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification on that. I appreciate it. Linwoods96 (talk) 19:27, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Notable Persons

• Wittehaus, List of University of North Carolina at Charlotte people

I added an Architecture section to represent the School of Architecture and moved Toby Witte into it as he lists as an architect. When I checked his Wikipedia Article link it linked to his business/company not to a personal biography page. My understanding of the rules for being considered "notable" is that a person would have to have their own Wikipedia Article. Would it be appropriate to remove Witt from this list? KQAgent (talk) 19:11, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I would say architects with their own companies are a grey area, sometimes the article is about the individual, sometimes about the firm, so inclusion or exclusion is fine. TSventon (talk) 19:34, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I just went through getting an Article for Creation for a biography of a living person and the criteria for citations was so rigorous that it struck me as very weird that the Toby Witt entry would be approved. Having your own company would never satisfy the criteria for a Wikipedia Article for a living person. The criteria for "notable persons" seemed to be pretty clear that the person would have to have their own Wikipedia Article. But as I'm a pretty new editor I was hesitant to remove it without some other advice. Thanks again KQAgent (talk) 19:48, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Have you read WP:CSC? That allows redlinks sometimes. Architects can be highly notable and only have an article for their company, but Witte doesn't seem highly notable. TSventon (talk) 20:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll check that out. Thanks, again! KQAgent (talk) 20:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Is Commons down?

I tried to open Commons, but it’s giving me a Wikimedia ‘too many requests’ error message. It’s been doing this for the past ten minutes or so. Is Commons down or is this just a random blip? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 02:23, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Works for me. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:28, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Seems to have resolved itself now. I guess the servers just got overwhelmed for a couple of minutes? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 02:58, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Colon in target of interlanguage link template

I've been editing the last para of:

Yashar (political party)#Leadership and prominent members

which mentions the company "AM:PM". I'm trying to use an interlanguage link template to create a link to the page AM:PM in the Hebrew Wikipedia. I've written:

{{ill|1=AM:PM|2=he}}

The resulting link looks like this:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM:PM

but when I click on it, goes to:

https://am.wikipedia.org/wiki/PM

Looking at the target page, I see that its URL is:

https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A8%D7%A9%D7%AA_AM:PM

What should I do? Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

You cannot have an article whose title begins "AC:".

Use, say, {{ill|1=AM-PM|2=he|3=רשת AM:PM}}, which gives: AM-PM

When AC-DC is created it can use {{correct title}}. See, for example the instance at the top of Devadasy (which should be "De:vadasy"). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:35, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Misha Wolf: The Hebrew page is not called "AM:PM" but "רשת AM:PM". Hebrew is right-to-left so your browser may display the Hebrew part to the right. It works if you use the right title. {{ill|1=רשת AM:PM|2=he}} produces רשת AM:PM. am: is the prefix for the Amharic Wikipedia so page names cannot begin with it (including other capitalizations). An English page name should not have a Hebrew part so you have to make up an English title which doesn't start with "AM:". See WP:NC-COLON for examples. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 14:55, 8 September 2026 (UTC)

Why so many entries Ms. Pa ~2026-49334-76 (talk) 05:46, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

How can I edit my personal Wikipedia information?

The process is too complicated for me to follow. I would rather hire someone to do it for me. I have been contacted by 5 people to do it. Can they be trusted? ~2026-49234-44 (talk) 22:11, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

No. Please read the scam warning.

You may use the edit request wizard to propose edits to the article about you. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Also asked at User talk:~2026-49234-44, where I have responded. One or two other editors (perhaps 331dot?) would be welcome to join in. (For one thing, it's your chance to say that I'm a crook -- I mean, if you think I'm a crook. Or even that to the best of your knowledge I'm not a crook.) However, let's not commentbomb. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 07:38, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Please also see WP:About you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:41, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Sabina Altynbekova

Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2026_August_26#Sabina_Altynbekova was closed days ago by a user who is not an administrator. Because the article is protected, it was not retargeted as needed. Where should this be reported? --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:25, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Use {{edit protected}}, on its talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:56, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing:, thank you for your message. However, I have a topic ban against my use of maintenance templates. Additionally, per WP:BADNAC:

"A non-admin closure may not be appropriate in any of the following situations:

1. The discussion is contentious (especially if it falls within a Contentious Topic), and your close is likely to be controversial.

2. The non-admin has little or no experience editing Wikipedia generally or has little or no previous participation in discussions.

3. The result will require action by an administrator, or are expected to be done by an administrator".

I will likely post my request to WP:AN. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Sabina_Altynbekova. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:53, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

I wouldn't class that as a "Maintenance template"; but the immediate issue now seems to be resolved. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:04, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Help on article

I need to make this an Mfd and not an Afd. May someone please help me? Wobs100 (talk) 18:06, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Done, thanks. WP:TWINKLE should automatically post to MfD when it's a draft. I'm not sure why it created an AfD in this case.

Anyway, it's at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Dmitrii Lavrutov. I've closed the AfD. Please discuss at the MfD only. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:53, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks! Wobs100 (talk) 19:54, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

need help on terminology software redirect page

i just check Terminology (software) but this redirect to List of terminal emulators#X11 and Wayland. but the terminology entry is deleted on that page Special:Diff/1191628690

based on here there is still some page that link to this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Terminology_(software) Lokiretro (talk) 05:27, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm puzzled. "Terminology" is the study of terms, not of terminals. Did Wikipedia ever have an article about software terminology? Maproom (talk) 07:45, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Did Wikipedia ever have an article about software terminology?

yes, but removed for lack significant coverage WP:SIGCOV 12 april 2020 Special:Diff/950451453

last version Special:Diff/950451453 Lokiretro (talk) 08:13, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

(EC) I doubt it, Maproom. But it did have an (unimpressive) article about a terminal emulator rather confusingly named "Terminology". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:17, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

A new Wikipedia article

Hi all. How do I start creating a new English article? What to do? Norayr Azaryan 26 (talk) 10:10, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

WP:AFC should guide you through the process. If its your first article I would advise you to follow the AFC process rather than put it directly to mainspace so you can get some feedback on how you are doing. Giulio 10:25, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

See also WP:Your first article. We strongly suggest that you gain experience first, by making smaller edits to existing articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:05, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Citation styles, and "magazine" variant

When I create citations, I use the button in my editing window that gives me the following options:

Web	News	Book
Journal	Named references	Error check
More	Cancel

Clicking "More" then gives me:

Encyclopedia	Press release	Book
Map	Ref section

All well and good, but recently another editor changed one of my "web" citations to "Magazine" - which I have no bones about, as it is indeed a better choice - but why can't I see the "magazine" option in my citation choices in the first place? Is it possible to add it in somehow? When I look for the magazine citation style, all I can find is a single mention in Wikipedia:Citation templates under examples as a subset of the news article style. Am I missing something, or is it deprecated somehow? Cheers. Chaheel Riens (talk) 09:16, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

It's certainly not deprecated. There are many other types of citation templates also, and we cant fit them all into tools like the one you used.

Whether {{Cite magazine}} should be one of those included is a matter or discussion on the tool's talk page.

I usually use {{Cite journal}}, then re-edit the page and change the necessary parameters. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:08, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Articles without templates/sections?

Is there a way to do a search for articles without templates ("{{") or articles without sections ("==")? RanDom 404 (talk) 14:50, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

I *think* searches require some positive component. I did a search for the article containing "the" without either of those two, and got two hits in mainspace, and neither looks particularly vandalismish to me (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=the+-insource%3A%2F%5C%3D%5C%3D%2F+-insource%3A%2F%5C%7B%5C%7B%2F&title=Special:Search&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns118=1&ns119=1&ns710=1&ns711=1&ns828=1&ns829=1) . (note, searches like that take a *long* time). you could probably tweek it with "a" instead of "the", but you have a good chance of timing out. Appears to be much more common in Categories. In Categories, I think you can have reasonable categories that lack either of those.Naraht (talk) 22:01, 12 September 2026 (UTC)

Without templates can be queried for. It's absurdly slow. Currently 104 non-redirect mainspace titles starting with A and 91 with B. Something more than half of redirects in the sample are templateless - 435991 out of 811697 A's and 337700 out of 627286 B's. —Cryptic 00:47, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Cryptic, is it possible to run these on database report pages divided by starting letter, or at least as public queries? RanDom 404 (talk) 15:36, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

quarry:query/109244. —Cryptic 16:09, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

I ran the query on the sandbox and it interprets the links as usernames, not articles. RanDom 404 (talk) 16:24, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

See the documentation for Template:Database report. You told it to. (Also to remove underscores from the third column and link it to the main namespace, despite it not existing.) Just |wikilinks=1 should work right. —Cryptic 16:28, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

how to make an article

How do you actually make an article N3ptuneLOL0w0 (talk) 19:53, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia! See Help:Your first article. I would suggest you practise by editing existing articles before creating your own, though. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:57, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Is editing an archived post likely to break something?

At the AI noticeboard, it is sometimes highly tempting to close a case after it has already been archived. For example, a case went to archive while in progress, but then pending deletions went through and now it is completed. Closing is desirable because it prevents the case from showing up in subsequent "clear the backlog" efforts. (It's also good for morale!) However there is a clear warning against editing archives. Is doing so--and in particular, closing an already-archived section--likely to lead to some kind of technical issue? So far I haven't seen one but I don't want to save up trouble for the future. M kuhner (talk) 18:50, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

No. The guidance against editing archives is purely social. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:18, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

@M kuhner: There isn't any technical issue with editing an archive, but as you said, keeping archives intact as they were is strongly encouraged. Is an archive bot being used? Couldn't you manually archive closed cases? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:19, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

An archive bot is being used (and manual archive is also being used) because the noticeboard constantly skates on the edge of being too big. I don't think we can turn off auto-archiving. It is very common for open cases to go to archive, and if we stop that the board will bloat up and die. But occasionally something can be closed post-archive, and if it doesn't actually break anything, I'll probably continue doing so. M kuhner (talk) 19:24, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

I suppose it's a suitable situation to... *shudders* WP:IAR.

Alternatively, if it's a matter of size as cases can take days if not weeks to resolve, have the regulars considered putting a link to a subpage on WP:AINB for each case—no discussions—while discussing the cases in said subpage? I see there are already tracker subpages; maybe that could be integrated? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:28, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

tempel of Bunene = temple of Bunene

If someone can verify: In the "checked and locked" article "Belshazzar" is "tempel of Bunene". All indications it should be "temple of Bunene" but maybe there is a reason for this representation?~2026-47100-73 (talk) 00:18, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Looks like a typo; I went ahead and fixed it myself. In the future, you can directly edit the article yourself to fix things like these (pending changes protection doesn't stop unregistered users from editing). I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 01:01, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Jorge Rivera–Herrans (AfD related query)

Jorge Rivera–Herrans

Can I get help with next steps please.

I found this page through Unreferenced articles, it had a BLP PROD on it that could be dealt with by adding one reference. However, there were in fact, 2 other related pages - a duplicate in draft and a redirect I was initially unaware of.

I asked previous editors of the 2 pages if they were happy for me to redirect the subject's page to his most well known work, two were fine with a redirection, 2 suggested I expand the page. I found there was sufficient material for an expansion so I did that.

A 5th editor started a second topic rather than replying to the original topic but still referred to it:

• they said they were seeking additional thoughts, but only pinged me, and didn't start a Request for Comment
• I pinged the other editors but, rather than wait for additional thoughts, the editor went to straight to AfD
• This may have been partially my fault because I had asked Pigs on the Wing for clarification as to whether an AfD was needed for a disputed redirection but the user started an AfD about whether to draftify the article, which seems to me to be just a Request for Comment(?)
• Finally, the user's seems to be mistaken about the premise that the subject of the article needs more than one work with 3 reviews to meet WP:NCREATIVE
• I have since found additional significant coverage so that I'm now convinced the subject also meets WP:GNG
• I have indicated that in the AfD discussion but the nominator has not withdrawn their nomination
• In any event, I am an AfC reviewer so, if the page is draftified, I can just accept it.

What is the correct course of action here - user talk page, article talk page, AfD comment, DR, AfC help desk? Mme Maigret (talk) 05:25, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Mme Maigret I can't see anything procedurally wrong with the AfD, so I suggest commenting there. Your argument will be more persuasive if you explain why the coverage is significant. Wikipedia:Drafts#As a result of a deletion discussion says Authors should ... use the AfC submission process to have the page moved back to mainspace. If you want to republish, I suggest letting another AfC reviewer accept it. TSventon (talk) 16:03, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

@TSventon I've done as you've suggested. Thanks. Mme Maigret (talk) 07:43, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Resolved

Can't access the email account so can't access my WP account!

Last Dec my old tower comp hd died. I had set my hotmail to a randomly generated p/w for safety reasons. Trouble is I didn't note it elsewhere so have no hope it seems for getting it back. I can't seem to remember my WP p/w either, despite tries of the obvious. I know I can simply make a new a/c here with my new email but is there any chance of getting into or linking to or whatever the one I had for 20 years? There's nothing special there at all but it was me, here, and I'd like to have it again. Thanks to anyone responding. ~2026-47692-45 (talk) 06:06, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

You can try to email the Trust and Safety team at ca@wikimedia.org with details of your old account. qcne (talk) 08:20, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

My first artice

Hi! I want to make an article, can you make what should I do and what shouldn't I do Hello9875234 (talk) 09:35, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

(answered at Teahouse) qcne (talk) 09:43, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Aloe, medicinal uses

Hi, could someone please improve the section on medicinal uses in the Aloe#Uses article? It needs to be expanded and supported by sources. ~2026-49555-81 (talk) 07:51, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

That's not what this helpdesk is for; we can advise you regarding any problems you encounter while doing so.

Otherwise, try asking at WT:WikiProject Medicine. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:43, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Quiero escribir mi primer artículo sobre Sonda

Hola quiero escribir un artículo sobre Sonda, una empresa chilena con presencia en latinoamerica y que lleva las tecnologías a las empresas. Hay una página en wikipedia inglés sobre Sonda S.A., pero yo ya busqué info y me gustaría complementar. Leo.poblete (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

@Leo.poblete If I understand you correctly, Wikipedia:Translate us may be of help to you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:50, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Please note, @Leo.poblete, that the English article Sonda S.A. in its present form does not meet English Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and it is quite possible that the company does not meet these criteria, and the article should be deleted. If this article were submitted for review as a new article today, it would certainly not be accepted.

Having said that, the standards for notability of the Spanish Wikipedia are likely to be different, so it is possible that a translation would be accepted in that version. ColinFine (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Issue with a GA review

Hi. I began a good article review which you can see here, and I added some improvements I'd like to be made before I review the article. Unfortunately, as the article was nominated so long ago (December 2025) the nominee has gone on a Wikibreak for university, which I believe has just or is about to start, so I expect the user may be unable to make the changes. In the event that is the case, what should I do? Do I put the review on hold, or should I just go on with the review with the article as is? Thanks, this is just never a situation I've come across before, and is a result of the large backlog at GA nominations, combined with that GA reviews have to be fairly exhaustive. Edlectro28 (talk) 20:32, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

If the nominee is on an extended Wikibreak, I'd probably just go on with the review as the article stands. If that leads to a fail, so be it. Like you said, GAR is heavily backlogged, so we really shouldn't leave on-hold reviews clogging the queue any longer than need be. If someone else wants to tackle it they could always renominate. Athanelar (talk) 16:03, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for this. I agree with what you said, and to be honest the article had too many problems to be a GA anyway, in the end Edlectro28 (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

DOI template behavior

Trying to access this T&F link correctly links to "The social tradition in Australian women's poetry". However, linking it through {{doi}} results in doi:10.1080/09699089800200041, which throws a 404 because the last two digits change from 41 to 59. Is this a fixable problem with the template, or a problem with the DOI itself that is outside the scope of what the template can do?

I observed this behavior while doing the GA review for Mary Hannay Foott, and can be seen in this old revision. The use of {{doi}} was replaced with a direct link, since the link does work, and I don't think simply marking it as broken is as useful as providing a working link. I'm just not sure if there's a better solution that I'm not aware of. NovaHyperion^{talk/contribs} 00:23, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

It's doi.org doing that, not a template. ~2026-49772-80 (talk) 00:35, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! I suspected as much, but I wanted to make sure it wasn't some known issue with an easy workaround that was just documented somewhere I hadn't looked before I made an assumption :) NovaHyperion^{talk/contribs} 01:18, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

No, and I really curious to know the cause of it (but not enough to actually mail them still). Unable to devise some better workaround as well. ~2026-49772-80 (talk) 01:53, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

The Silver Chalice

The hatnote in The Silver Chalice points to Silver chalice (disambiguation), but that is a redirect. The other articles are listed at Silver Chalice. How can this be fixed? ~2026-49713-45 (talk) 10:13, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

fixed. Silver chalice (disambiguation) now redirect to Silver Chalice. also added entry for chicago white fox's silve chalice Lokiretro (talk) 11:02, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Chantilly

Would it be appropriate to add Chantilly cream to the Chantilly disambiguation page? If so, could someone do it? ~2026-49729-05 (talk) 13:02, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

It's already there (fourth entry under "Other"). Deor (talk) 13:26, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Has the 2017 Wikitext editor been updated?

The editor looks odd/different from what I remembered, it looks like the editor has gotten some updates, but visually the only thing that changed was the size of L2 headings. However, on my device, it seems that performance has dropped and feels a little laggy, particularly, when scrolling quickly, some parts of the page load slowly. Disabling syntax highlighting helped, though. If anyone can provide a link to the said update, that would be helpful. Thanks! Hason-LEK-🇸🇬 ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 08:26, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: It's probably Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#CodeMirror and the 2017 Wikitext Editor. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:43, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Is the flickypedia IP range blocked?

I was trying to upload a photo via https://flickypedia.flickr.org/ - got the following error (was later able to upload it via flickr2commons, which I thought was deprecated but looks like it was Claude'd back to life).

Upload failed!

Your photo didn’t upload We recommend you try uploading it again later. You can make a copy of the title and caption you wrote for your next attempt.

   URL
       https://www.flickr.com/photos/supercraigtalbert/55522366043/
   title
       Shadow Array.jpg
   short caption
       Photo contain the east side of Shadow Array. 
   error
       {'code': 'blocked', 'info': "Your IP address is in a range that has been blocked on all Wikimedia Foundation wikis. The block was made by \u202aM7\u202c. The reason given is: Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected: per request * Start of block: 07:34, 23 July 2026 * Expiration of block: 07:34, 23 July 2028 Your current IP address is 2600:3c13::2000:8eff:fe9d:9f97. The blocked range is \u202a2600:3C13:0:0:0:0:0:0/32\u202c. Please include all above details in any queries you make. If you believe you were blocked by mistake, you can find additional information and instructions in the Stewards Block Wizard.", 'blockinfo': {'blockid': 3455768, 'blockedby': 'M7', 'blockedbyid': 583, 'blockreason': 'Open proxy/Webhost: See the help page if you are affected: per request', 'blockedtimestamp': '2026-07-23T07:34:33Z', 'blockexpiry': '2028-07-23T07:34:33Z', 'blocknocreate': , 'blockowntalk': , 'blockedtimestampformatted': '07:34, 23 July 2026', 'blockexpiryformatted': '07:34, 23 July 2028', 'blockexpiryrelative': 'in 1 year'}, '*': 'See https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/mediawiki-api-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/> for notice vof API deprecations and breaking changes.'} 

Scarpy (talk) 18:53, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

@Scarpy, Thanks for this message and sorry for the inconvenience. The block itself is meant as a protection against a LTA actively exploiting proxies inside that Datacenter range. Now I've tried to soften in part the block. I'd kindly ask you to try again and let me know. --M/ (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

No worries. I appreciate you looking it to it so quickly! I am, however, trying to upload again with a new photo. I'm not getting an error but it looks like it could be timing out. https://flickypedia.flickr.org/wait_for_upload/e1f084c8-0c4b-48ec-9536-b2f0ac6915fc Frozen at the Uploading... page. Scarpy (talk) 01:01, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

@M/ It eventually generated an error message, below. - Scarpy (talk) 02:30, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Upload failed!

Your photo didn’t upload We recommend you try uploading it again later. You can make a copy of the title and caption you wrote for your next attempt.

   URL
       https://www.flickr.com/photos/supercraigtalbert/55522260991/
   title
       Shadow Array Alternate.jpg
   short caption
       A photo of the east side of the Shadow Array art.
   error
       {'code': 'permissiondenied', 'info': 'You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action.', 'messages': [{'name': 'wikibase-api-permissiondenied', 'parameters': [], 'html': {'*': 'You do not have the permissions needed to carry out this action.'}}, {'name': 'badaccess-group0', 'parameters': [], 'html': {'*': 'You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested.'}}], '*': 'See https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/mediawiki-api-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes.'}

@Scarpy I am sorry to hear that, especially because this is completely out of my boundaries. The range-block is solved now and this seems to be a bug related to the API usage. Site's "Leave a feedback" links to a commons.wiki talk page: commons:Commons_talk:Flickypedia. Perhaps it is better to report there, still it seem there's quite a lack of answers, but you might want to try. Thanks again for your feedback --M/ (talk) 06:26, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! I posted there and asked. flickr2commons looks like it kind of works again so we have something of a workaround. - Scarpy (talk) 18:11, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Editing

How do we edit and add our own information ~2026-49865-01 (talk) 18:08, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49865-01 Hello. Welcome to Wikipedia. To edit a page or a section of a page, you push the button that says edit and then make your edit. It should be similar to the process you used to leave this help desk comment. For simple things like fixing a typo (maybe changing adn to and), just do it. For addition of information not present in the article, or changing outdated information, please cite your sources. I will leave you a welcome message on your talk page with links to additional information. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 18:22, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

When you say "add our own information", if you are asking to write an article about yourself, the answer is you don't do that. If there will be an article about you, it will be written in the far future by someone else who does not know you. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:06, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello my question is about investment into the blocked brain which is working out out of Socrates a science

Hello, my name is Mariam el marboua and in my investment into the blocked brain I wrote the research that you will find published by the glorious global scientific journal under the name of fantasies and the pyramidal cells, but I beg you give me a chance in my other researches that got certified too by the glorious global scientific journal I did think of unconsciousness as a tradition and wrote that it will be a beautiful tradition if we work out feeling in the secrecy of the country because if we know what to say in the feeling we would know what to say in the idea SO I BEG YOU GIVE MY PHILOSOPHY A CHANCE TO HAVE A PAGE IN YOUR GLORIOUS PLATEFORME OF INTELLIGENCE, THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR THE GLORIOUS HONOR AND THE GLORIOUS MODESTY. ~2026-49670-11 (talk) 18:59, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello. We do not host original research on Wikipedia. Please go elsewhere. qcne (talk) 19:01, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-49670-11 We do not host research papers. You may consider other publishing platforms such as DOAJ, JSTOR, Academia.edu, ResearchGate, or if you have the funds and would like it to go through peer review, refer to the academic publishing processes in actual credible journals [i.e. Frontiers, Elsevier, Nature, Springer, etc.] ⠀⠀⠀⠀ .n the homo 23:48, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

Question about Individual Articles' Talk Pages

I posted some new topics in a few talk pages in both the English and Spanish wikipedias, though I haven't gotten any response for any of those articles. They seem to be in not-well-used article spaces (or something). Is this normal? I don't always feel 100% confident of being able to provide adequate input, so I feel that using the talk pages are useful to me, I hope. Zeldstarro (talk) 06:59, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not unusual for there to be a long delay before you get a reply on the talk pages of less well watched articles; we have no deadline.

That said if you find a serious problem and don't get a reply after a few days you can raise the matter (or post a short pointer to the original discussion) on a relevant wiki project (usually listed at the top of the talk page) or on a notice board like WP:BLPN or WP:NPOVN. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:13, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, it's normal, there are way more articles than active editors. WP:APPNOTE might help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:35, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Mobbing, DAB page

Is it necessary to create a disambiguation page for "Mobbing" (Mobbing (disambiguation))? We have three articles: mobbing, mobbing (animal behavior), and mobbing (Scots law). ~2026-50193-27 (talk) 08:42, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

That seems a good idea. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:49, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Can a Wikimedia Commons file be used as a citeable source?

I'm currently trying to edit Czech Television after I noticed that one of the citations has a dead link in it (an archive of a late-December 1992 newspaper). I checked the Internet Archive, and while it technically has the page archived, it doesn't actually load the needed content, and thus (in my opinion) fails the threshold for being added to a {{Cite web}} as an archived version of the page, and the original page was under a paywall, so it's hopelessly dead. However, after doing some quick Googling, I noticed that Wikimedia Commons has the exact content that I need (a TV guide from 31 December 1992 - 1 January 1993) at File:Rudé_právo,_31._prosince_1992,_TV_program.jpg. Could I somehow replace the now-dead citation with a reference to this Commons file? maemolol, arbiter of æ (talk) 08:56, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Maemolol While I don't know what fact you intend to cite, nothing prevents you from making a cite like

References

The paper is the source, Commons is just a convenience link, which is nice to have but not obligatory per WP:OFFLINE. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:39, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång. I have taken your suggestion, and modified it slightly to include more info. maemolol, arbiter of æ (talk) 12:18, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm ready to just give up

Hi qcne, Thank you again for your help back in August — you saved me from wasting my money with Wiki Authority Group, and I stopped payment and reported them as you and the others suggested. I'm now ready to move forward the right way: submitting a disclosed, conflict-of-interest draft about NetWeaving (the networking concept I created) through Articles for Creation myself, with no paid help involved. One thing I want to be upfront about: I used an AI research assistant (Perplexity AI) to help me gather, organize, and fact-check sources — verifying which claims about NetWeaving's coverage actually hold up and which don't. Given the current guideline on LLM use in article content, I've been working to rewrite the article text in my own words, using that research only as source notes. In places I've kept some of the assistant's original phrasing because it captured the facts well and I found full rewriting difficult since in many places it was identical or almost identical to my own — I'd rather tell you that directly than have you find it later. Given that, I have two questions: (1) is a fully disclosed, good-faith submission like this even viable under current practice, or should I keep pushing to rewrite it further before submitting? and (2) would you be willing to take an informal look at the draft, or point me to anything else I should check first? I'd rather get this right the first time than have it declined or deleted for something I could have caught. Thanks again for your time and for being straight with me back in August. Bob Littell, Chief NetWeaver ChiefNetWeaver1 (talk) 13:13, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Qcne, I suppose. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:17, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @ChiefNetWeaver1. We prohibit LLM generated text in an article or draft. LLM also has the habit of hallucinating sources or inferring information from sources that do not exist. As such, if you used an LLM, you should carefully check 100% of it's output to ensure the text actually meets our policies and guidelines particularly that of WP:Verifiability and WP:Neutral Point of View.

You are free to create the draft via the WP:Article wizard then drop a message on my talk page and I can take a look to see if the draft has any chance of a successful review. qcne (talk) 13:47, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Donating by check

Can you accept a check as a donation? Need the address.

do not want to do it on line ~2026-50342-92 (talk) 13:43, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-50342-92: See https://wikimediafoundation.org/give/give-by-mail/. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

One user who seems to make many good-faith but destructive edits

I recently stumbled across this user, when I reverted an edit and he responded by leaving a personal attack on my talk page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Bodhisvaha5&target=Bodhisvaha5&limit=250

Looking through some of his edits, the majority of them seem to be simply extending sentences to use many extraneous, superflous words, plus a whole lot of WP:OVERLINKING. I have reverted a bunch of them now, but I just need a second opinion here that it is not just me overreacting... I genuinely think that his edits are making the articles worse, but I just need a second opinion before I continue going through his edit history and revert about half of them.

(For the record, I've been editing WP for about twenty years, but never created an account) ~2026-46864-50 (talk) 13:44, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

I've left a warning. qcne (talk) 13:56, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

NOTNEWS

"If the strongest evidence of real-world significance is that the ideology has been cited by perpetrators of mass violence, this is the textbook single-event notability scenario that WP:NOTNEWS warns against; the attention is inherited from the tragedies rather than reflecting independent scholarly or journalistic interest in the ideology itself."

Probably I misreading it some way. The way I do read it would mean that many notorious ideologies should be non-notable and omitted from Wikipedia then, because they were originally known due to their direct relation to a perpetrating of mass violence. Should it be read and understand in a line of "non-notable, prior to significant scholar coverage involved as an aftermath"? Just "strongest evidence of real-world significance" would still remain to be that "the ideology has been cited by perpetrators of mass violence" in this case. Could somebody do some attempt to clarify it?

Also this could be read as that the tragedies on its own are allegedly not notable due to WP:NOTNEWS, but there is definitively a wide coverage of them on Wikipedia. It is due to violation of the policy, or due to misunderstanding of the policy above? ~2026-49772-80 (talk) 17:03, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Examples would help. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:04, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Examples of such ideologies or tragedies? ~2026-49772-80 (talk) 23:42, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Please provide specific examples of ideologies that inspired acts of mass violence but lack independent scholarly or journalistic interest in the ideology itself, and that are the subjects of possibly inappropriate Wikipedia articles. Violent ideologies usually but not always attact independent scholarly or journalistic interest, so specific examples to the contrary would result in a more productive discussion. Cullen328 (talk) 07:44, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

And as for the acts of mass violence themselves, these often meet the standards for significant, in depth coverage at WP:NEVENT and therefore writing an article is appropriate for that reason. Cullen328 (talk) 07:51, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

This is means that I failed to articulate the point I'm about (again).

It's already diverged from that is written in the original words in brackets. There is said, that even if it attract independent scholarly or journalistic interest, still the attention is inherited from the tragedies rather than reflecting independent scholarly or journalistic interest in the ideology itself.", presumably falling to NOTNEWS. Because strongest evidence of real-world significance is that the ideology has been cited by perpetrators of mass violence; the scholarly or journalistic interest is caused by it, and significance still would remain on the violence. Aum Shinrikyo or Boko Haram are mostly known due to the perpetrated acts of violence, not due to brilliant articles of Prof. A et al. regarding their ideology, and how it lead to the violence; those articles are aftermath of the violence on their own.

I'm trying to get do the original text in brackets constitute misunderstanding/misapplication of NOTNEWS (i.e. wrong), or it's something I'm missing instead. I'm not trying to find any possibly inappropriate Wikipedia articles at all, but some that would fall to that original wording, beside aforementioned, could be KKK, Wahhabies, Shining Path, Arambai Tenggol, etc, amongst others; probably even Nazis, as most of the coverage of them is due to their real-world significance as a perpetrators of mass violence. ~2026-49848-20 (talk) 17:35, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

To pass NOTNEWS (that is, to be worth writing on Wikipedia), a topic must have received a lot of coverage from reliable sources. The very first sentence in your first message is about perpetrators. Perpetrators are not reliable sources. If you look for reliable reporting about Shining Path, you will find a lot of it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:13, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

The very second sentence there (with a soft semicolon break) say the attention is inherited from the tragedies rather than reflecting independent scholarly or journalistic interest in the ideology itself. They're goes together, and the second part means that it still shouldn't pass, as the coverage is in fact due to a violence happened, not from the interest in the ideology itself, and thus doesn't pass NOTNEWS. Indeed that lot of coverage from reliable sources is due to the violent activities of that group. Without it they would receive only a minor one from the niche specialists, because there would be no general interest in that's group ideology overall.

I think the original sentence is very malformed, it should be generally about NOTABILITY instead of NOTNEWS (a narrow example of a lack of notability), and the way it written it would deny notability for a tragedy-related information, only for tragedy itself (contrary to actual practice). But to confirm it, I'm asking for a help here. ~2026-49848-20 (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2026 (UTC)

I think you're saying that (for example) KKK and Shining Path are what might be called "mere terrorists", and that therefore by Wikipedia's current guidelines we should be deliberately and systematically expunging all mention of their ideas, goals, and so on, because as mere terrorists, by definition they never had anything valid or interesting to say.

Is my description coming closer to what you intended? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:42, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, this is way closer to the way I'm reading it. Probably the only, but significant difference, is that the way you're wrote it it could be read as if it is about denying, intentionally providing no publicity to them. I don't see it in original text, there it is as if it merely insignificant if the interest leading to appearing of sources was mainly about some event. And it is at least a confusing wording then, as notability could arise from the event. ~2026-50044-97 (talk) 20:26, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Upload film poster

This is my written film article, Ramnagar Bunny, but I am not a registered user, so could someone please upload the film poster under fair use?

Here is the source: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt33496202/mediaviewer/rm651059969/?ref_=ttmi_mi_2_1 ~2026-50357-95 (talk) 05:57, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

It may be best for you to direct this query to Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Help Desk and TH

Hello! How are these two forums different? Thanks _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 12:36, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

The Teahouse is geared towards new or inexperienced users, whereas the Help Desk is more general. 331dot (talk) 12:44, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 12:46, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) see Wikipedia:Help desk/Are you in the right place. TSventon (talk) 12:47, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

👍 _signed, Kvinnen (talk) 12:49, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

How do you find 'edit suggestions' ?

I am seeing the tag "Edit Suggestion seen" here and there. I'd like to be able to figure out what edit suggestions they were acting on. How do you search for edit suggestions that have been made about articles? I've been around for quite a while, but I am unfamiliar with this. Graywalls (talk) 09:16, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

@Graywalls I think you'll find them if you "Display newcomer homepage" in your preferences and check that page, appears next to the userpage tab. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:06, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

I figured it out. It's a feature in beta. When enabled, it leaves that comment in edit summary. Graywalls (talk) 14:37, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Where to report global abuse?

金色黎明必须解除封锁 (talk⁺ · contribs · deleted contribs · tag · block user · block log · CheckUser) has been blocked for sockpuppetry here. The editor is pinging me in edit summaries of vandal edits on the Simple English and Chinese Wikipedias, seems to be inviting attention. Where do I report abuse for a global block? I am an admin only on the English Wikipedia and don't have rights for global actions. ~Anachronist (who / me) (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

m:SRG is usually the correct venue to request global locks/blocks (a "global lock" prevents an account from logging in anywhere; a "global block" allows logins but prevents edits on all wikis that don't explicitly override it). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:48, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Redirect is inaccurate

Category:AC Ancona managers, it clearly shows AC Ancona redirects to SSC Ancona ASD, and clearly even without football knowledge, it's two different things. So, remove it or not? Bruhmoemnr (talk) 13:34, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

The page you mentioned says that it is there for a purpose AND that it should stay empty. So ignore the page and do not add anyone to that category (which you wouldn't anyway because - as you said - it isn't the right one). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:44, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Choc / CHOC

Does it make sense to have two separate disambiguation pages for Choc and CHOC? Shouldn't they be merged? ~2026-50383-90 (talk) 00:03, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

CHOC is an acronym and quite distinct from Choc. In any case the two pages are linked via the See Also section, so I see no merit in merging them. If you think you have a specific reason to merge them, you are welcome to propose that at the relevant talk pages. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:39, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

If you want to (and I think that doing so would be a good idea), far better to propose the merge on the talk page of one of these two; and to advertise the proposal, and link to it, on the talk page of the other. Anyway, try to let people know, but try not to launch more than one discussion. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:45, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Problem with adding second and third archive to my talk page

Hello, Fellow Wikipedians!

I am having trouble with adding the second and third archives to my talk page when setting up automatic archiving by lowercase sigmabot III. I tried various ways but still there is only one archive.

Hope this problem should be fixed soon! Cheers, (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 12:25, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Zahrazamedahmedi: I'm not sure what you want. Special:PrefixIndex/User talk:Zahrazamedahmedi only shows one archive, and two TWA pages which are not considered archives. They are deliberately not linked in the archive box if that's what you mean. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:40, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @PrimeHunter!

I finally fixed the problem now!

Happy editing! Cheers, (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 19:02, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Zahrazamedahmedi: I see you have manually linked two non-existing archives. That doesn't influence the archiving bot. If you want small archives then reduce maxarchivesize = 400K (400,000 bytes) which controls the size. When the specified limit is reached, the bot automatically creates a new archive page which is automaticaly linked by {{Archives}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:33, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @PrimeHunter!

However, I don't need auto archiving anymore because I installed User:Elli/OneClickArchiver and I hope it works! If I don't like it, then I will uninstall it and try a different OneClickArchiver!

Happy editing! Cheers, (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 01:15, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi again, @PrimeHunter!

I guess I didn't need automatic archiving or OneClickArchiving after all. I uninstalled the scripts and now I don't need them anymore!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 10:51, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Random category

Is there a way to see a random category? I don't see this on Special:SpecialPages. Thanks! Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 13:26, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, Special:Random/Category displays a random category page each time. There's more detail at Wikipedia:Random. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:33, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Wow, thanks! I had no idea. Helpful Cat🐈‍⬛ 13:38, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

How to change

How to change related articles section ~2026-50326-96 (talk) 13:19, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-50326-96: See mw:Extension:RelatedArticles#Usage. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:33, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Died by or committed suicide

An editor on Putney Pusher put "died by" and used MOS:SUICIDE in their edit summary and someone has twice reverted it and is referring to MOS:STYLERET. All the other editor and myself have tried to do is go by what is recommended using "died by" and the other editor is basically saying we are changing it just to suit the style we want ourselves which is untrue it is just more neutral. Which is the best to use? ItsShandog (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

My opinion: There's never been a clear consensus to prohibit "committed" in such instances, as discussed at the RfC linked there. As such, while I think editors are well within their rights to use their preferred form when they're writing new text, it seems out of line for an editor to be changing existing text to suit their personal preferences. That said, I find I'm more open to editors who are willing to compromise on the wording than I am editors who seem to rigidly feel that the only reasonable alternative to "committed suicide" is "died by suicide". There are other ways to convey the same content. DonIago (talk) 19:51, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

According to MOS:SUICIDE: The phrase committed suicide is neither recommended nor banned on the English Wikipedia, so per the guidelines it's acceptable. However, as the same guideline notes "style manuals have come to avoid commit suicide, which is now considered insensitive because of its whiff of criminality". Several acceptable alternatives to "committed" are listed. Personally, I feel using one of the many other non-euphemistic expressions, including "died by", is more consistent with the spirit of neutrality and encyclopedic tone, since it's less judgemental, but this is just my own individual opinion; it's not the position of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines yet.

There was was RfC not too long ago in 2021, in which the closer wrote:

... if some other equal or better formulation exists and a change is made, we should not tendentiously revert it. Likewise, I would urge editors not to tendentiously remove "commit suicide" everywhere it is found. Perhaps the best idea is to see what the cited sources in each article say and follow their formulation. This will naturally cause us to track whatever trend exists in society. ...

Perhaps you could see what the sources cited in the article use and follow that? – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 20:56, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Note that a very clear majority of participants in that 2021 RfC argued in favour of allowing the use of "committed". If you wanted to change the guidelines to explicitly discourage its use, you would have to make a very persuasive case that had not already been made in that discussion or provide much stronger evidence in favour of a previously made argument, perhaps both. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 21:11, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Looking closer at Putney Pusher, it seems the reference for the paragraph which uses "committed suicide" is a news article which actually uses the words "took his own life", which would generally be considered euphemistic language (which is discouraged on Wikipedia). Seems here the source isn't helpful. We don't use euphemisms even when reliable sources do.

In general, if you have multiple acceptable ways to express something the variant used first should be retained, as otherwise you get into time-wasting arguments over personal opinions that can't be settled with policies and guidelines. This would mean "committed" should be retained; not because it's preferable to use "committed" but simply because MOS:VAR discourages arbitrary changes in general and there's a broad sitewide consensus (per the RfC) that "committed" is considered acceptable (neither encouraged nor discouraged) variation in phrasing. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 21:34, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

@ItsShandog: I hope this long reply was helpful, even if it probably wasn't the answer you were hoping for. – Scyrme (talk/solidarity) 21:36, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems to me that in this kind of context the word "suicide" is just as legalistic and non-neutral as the word "committed", and (separately) it also seems to me that modern usage of "suicide" has evolved to make it into our euphemism. Wikipedia, in its stated avoidance of euphemism and its NPOV, should probably make it a rigid requirement to use only "killed himself" (substituting whichever pronoun is appropriate) - which is the common non-slang form that is in fact neutral and non-judgemental - and exclude all the other possibilities.

That is clearly unpopular and not happening, probably because very many people do want a euphemism for "killed himself" despite the general ruling to the contrary. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:53, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

TooManyFingers, you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, especially on a subject that is surrounded with such emotionally frought language. But I do not see the word "suicide" as a euphemism and was unable to find any thoughtful commentary online that makes that case. Cullen328 (talk) 05:41, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

People can say they don't consider "suicide" a euphemism, but I have a difficult time believing them unless they're also perfectly content - under all circumstances - to have it replaced with "killed himself". (Not with having such a replacement forced upon them, just that they really don't mind which version gets used.) I wouldn't doubt that you may accept either one equally, but it's clear many people don't - and that's a pretty clear sign of euphemism at work. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:36, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

The Samaritans' guidance says "Try to use phrases like 'ended their own life', rather than 'committed suicide' which can stigmatise suicide or make it sound like a crime." They know more about this than the average Wikipedia editor.

Outside of quotations, its hard to find any justification, let alone genuine need, for using "committed suicide", while their guidance is evidence to suggest that doing so causes harms; and is likely a breach of WP:NPOV (doubly so in modern, compared to historical, cases).

The issue is with "committed" (which is hang-over from when attempting suicide was a criminal offence; and its status as a sin in some religions; compare "committed murder", "committed adultery"), not with "suicide"; "died by suicide" is not problematic. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:53, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

I have tried adding "died by" to stay neutral to avoid implying anything but they keep reverting it. ItsShandog (talk) 12:09, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

I just noticed someone changed it to died by again no doubt it will be reverted at some stage. ItsShandog (talk) 12:10, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

The Samaritans' expertise in euphemisms for a particular application does not affect or concern Wikipedia in the slightest. Wikipedia is not censored, our non-censorship policy makes a point of saying that protecting readers is exactly the thing we won't do, and there isn't an exemption in there for words or images concerning death. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:25, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Who said anything about euphemisms? Or censorship? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 14:56, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Thw Samaritans' guidance (the part you quoted) recommends the euphemism "ended their own life", and omits the ordinary words "killed themselves". It isn't necessary for me to show that they used the word "euphemism" in their description of their euphemism. (Their advice is also not intended as a guide for Wikipedia editors.)

That particular advice is intended (among other things) to protect people from the effect of stigmatising words. "Commit (an offence)" certainly can be stigmatising, and I argue that "suicide" is stigmatising as well because it retains a strong association with "commit" and illegality in general regardless of whether "commit" is actually printed; it seems possible that the Samaritans might agree with that, or they might not. In any case, "committed suicide" is excluded from consideration for good reason.

But "ended their own life" is inarguably a euphemism, Wikipedia policy explicitly excludes euphemisms and censoring (explicitly the kind of censoring intended as protection), and the ordinary inoffensive non-stigmatising "killed themselves" is not just being avoided for no particular reason; it's being (self-)censored in favour of outdated legal terminology that the Samaritans don't recommend. Consistently choosing what might be called "a less harsh form", when what's being regarded as "the harsh form" has no stigma, no disapproval, and no words that have been banned from radio broadcast, but is straightforwardly factual, is euphemism. The Wikipedia trend is merely to continue with a potentially-stigmatising euphemism that conveniently comes with plausible deniability of its status as a euphemism, rather than a transparent but non-prejudiced one as the Samaritans recommend. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:06, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

The guidance is for all writers generally, which includes Wikipedians, not "for a particular application". It specifically recommends against using "committed", giving a reason for doing so, and suggests one alternative example ("use phrases like..."), rather than prescribing one. Nor does it proscribe "killed themselves", which would fall outside of its concern with being careful not to "stigmatise suicide or make it sound like a crime".

The terms suggested is an alternative; not a euphemism; let alone "inarguably" so. (I note with some confusion that you earlier claimed that "suicide" itself is a euphemism).

Note also that the guidance itself (including the part I quoted) uses the word "suicide".

There is no "censoring". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 18:05, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Any stigma about suicide arises from the harm the act causes to the living not from a stock phrase that everyone understands, and playing around with silly made-up ways of saying "killed himself" won't change a thing. I've previously suggested "killed themself" in similar cases, only to be told that was too brutal sc not euphemistic enough. Anyway, in this specific case has there been a coroner's verdict? DuncanHill (talk) 12:41, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

No i actually think it is a bit premature to even write suicide the source only quoted from the family that "he took his own life" this was only yesterday i originally just quoted what the family said until more confirmation was given but then someone change it to died by and then someone else changed it to committed suicide. ItsShandog (talk) 12:44, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Grammar (English)

Does Wiki have a grammar correction program for writers or manuscripts? ~2026-50496-44 (talk) 19:30, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you mean something like Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors? DonIago (talk) 19:53, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

If you mean software that automatically fixes grammar, we intentionally don't have that. Don't use any kind of grammar tools at all - they will just get your work rejected. Instead, do your best on the grammar by yourself, even if it isn't ideal. If you've made an effort to say what you mean, others (maybe including me) will understand, and be able to fix it. But as soon as we see evidence of grammar tools, the reviewer quickly says no to the article. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:39, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Another reason why we don't have grammar tools, @~2026-50496-44, is that there are several varieties of English (US, UK, Can, Aus, NZ, India, Jamaica, Nigeria, South Africa, etc) that sometimes have different grammar as well as different spelling. Wikipedia does not mandate any particular one (though see WP:ENGVAR for what the rules are), so it's unlikely a grammar tool would get it right. ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Expanding on ColinFine's reply above, Wikipedia follows its own manual of style that most (if not all) tools won't fully recognise (especially WP:LQ). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:48, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

About a change

User already asked this at the Teahouse. Please ask a question at only one venue to prevent duplicating user effort. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:53, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

How to change in related articles section in a wikipedia article ~2026-50548-93 (talk) 11:04, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

You have recently been editing Kai Ewans. This has a "See also" section. For what may go in a "See also" section or should not go there, see this. As for how to make these changes, you make them in the same way that you'd make changes elsewhere. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 11:47, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-50548-93: "Related articles" is a feature in the mobile version. See mw:Extension:RelatedArticles#Usage. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating article for comic artist

I made a short draft of an article for Comic Artist and Inker Scott Hanna (30 year inker of John Romita Jr Spider-Man and other comics) in my sandbox and requested in WikiProject Comics if anyone was willing to review an English article. I'm not sure if that was the proper place to ask, but it was suggested to me so it was my first try. Is this Help Desk a better place to make that request? CorsetsandComics (talk) 01:53, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @CorsetsandComics.

The best way to get feedback on a draft is to submit it for review, and I have added a header to User:CorsetsandComics/sandbox to allow you to do so.

However, before you submit it, I suggest that you sort out the referencing (see WP:REFB), and check each source against all the criteria of WP:42.

A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of what the majority of people who are wholly unconnected with the subject have independently chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, (see Golden rule) and not much else. What you know (or anybody else knows) about the subject is not relevant except where it can be verified from a reliable published source.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 08:32, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for this great advice ColinFine. I'm so glad I asked at the Help desk. The article is mostly neutral and informational, but I see I've got a bit more work to do. CorsetsandComics (talk) 15:02, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I've moved it to Draft:Scott Hanna, the preferred place for drafts. The title of the page aside, I second what ColinFine has written. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:49, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you Hoary! I can see where the cite errors are and I see some sentences need me to reference which interviews I found the data in. I will get to studying. CorsetsandComics (talk) 15:50, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Deaths from Alzheimer's disease in England

To this list please add Barry Hines, the novelist who died in 2016. See his Wikipedia page for confirmation. ~2026-50315-55 (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

You should request this at the article's Talk page. DonIago (talk) 19:03, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-50315-55 I've added him to the Category:People with Alzheimer's disease. The cited source doesn't say that was the cause of his death. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:56, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Deleting a page

I'd like to delete a page I'm working on named My Fault featuring Noah Cyrus BellyKelly (talk) 22:30, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I've requested deletion as WP:G7. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:50, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) next time, if you are the only author, you can add {{db-author}} to the top of the page. TSventon (talk) 22:53, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I've deleted My Fault (featuring Noah Cyrus). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:11, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I want to make a page of that song by Shaboozy but when I type in My Fault (song) it takes me to the page about his album. BellyKelly (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

That song might not be notable enough by itself to have a separate article. But if you really think you can prove me wrong on that, then write it as a Draft only, using some other title such as "Draft:My Fault (Shaboozy song)". If your draft is accepted, it will then receive the proper title and the redirect will be taken down. Do not try making those changes yourself - it would just make people judge you as breaking things for no reason. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:20, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Editing has changed

Hi, for some reason since today when I click on edit the page is different and I don't know/want to use it this way. How do I fix the settings back? How do I make "source editing" the default again? AngelSparkles (talk) 15:45, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

You can go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and check the "Editing mode" setting. It may have been changed for you in some way to "Always give me the visual editor if possible". LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 17:09, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

@LightNightLights, that was it yes. Thank you! Looks like it was switched on automatically for some reason. Was there an update or something? AngelSparkles (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

Now that you mention it, I remember that there was this discussion that made the "visual editor" the default editor mode. That result might have then changed your settings. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 19:49, 17 September 2026 (UTC)

This update is more recent. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 00:46, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

I suppose i have been affected by this measure. Does this mean i am a newcomer? I have > 1.000 edits in en wikipedia, my first edits were A. D. 2020 --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 23:23, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

This change seems to be intended only for editors below "autoconfirmed" status. You might have experienced a bug, but I am not sure. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 01:41, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@LightNightLights I read the discussion, but it's horrible design to switch editors on editors (sorry for the wording) after they have been editing for a while. David10244 (talk) 04:30, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:2027 NFL season

Can you please create A draft Article for the 2027 NFL season please ~2026-50518-65 (talk) 00:30, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

There's no point, it hasn't started. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:09, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I concur. While there is often sufficient material for some sports' seasons published well before their commencement, I gather that the 2026 NFL season proper only began this month and will end in February 2027, and the 2027 season's draft will presumably take place in April 2027.

I notice however that the article for the 2026 season just commenced was created on 4 Sep 2024 by an editor still active, and first gained content of significance on 18 November 2024, so it seems likely that a similarly forward-thinking editor will create a draft or stub before too long. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-43920-01 (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:2027 NFL season. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:55, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Rodrigo Leao

Could someone redirect the redirect Rodrigo Leao to the disambiguation page Rodrigo Leão? I don't know how to do it. Thanks. ~2026-50904-55 (talk) 10:26, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Done. Please check "What links here" and fix As necessary. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:55, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Roger Vivier

Could someone please explain to the user @JBW that a hatnote needs to be placed pointing from Roger Vivier to Roger Vivier (brand)? He removed it without reason. ~2026-50931-68 (talk) 12:33, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Removal of the hatnote was entirely justified for the reasons given by User:JBW. Doug butler (talk) 13:42, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Notability for elections

I've always wondered if there are any specific notability guidelines for elections or similar. I normally go off WP:GNG and WP:NEVENT but want to make sure there's nothing specific I'm missing. 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 02:21, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

To be clear, you mean the notability of topics called something like "2026 election in Name of Country", not about any individual - right? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@TooManyFingers Yeah, the notability of the election itself, not the candidates. I just wanted to ensure there was no WikiProject advice page or more specific notability criteria I was missing. 🌀Hurricane Wind and Fire, why'd you decline my draft? (talk, contribs)🔥 13:59, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

WP:NELECTION is currently red. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 08:59, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Why I got this error?

Here the error

Even time I click in publish changes, will show this annoying error. (Click to print)

This is a bug? VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 01:57, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Vitorperrut555: Your edit here worked. Did you try logging out and back in as suggested? PrimeHunter (talk) 03:54, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm getting that a lot today too. Using the "publish" button a second time usually resolves it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 13:05, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Yes, I know. I think is a bug. VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 17:43, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

I got that on one article yesterday and had to try "publish" three or four times before the edit finally took. Deor (talk) 14:00, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

@Deor Me too... I think I will report this bug... VitorFriboquen :] (Talk) 17:42, 19 September 2026 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Loss_of_session_data and phab:T423206. OutsideNormality (talk) 19:27, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan

some (Personal attack removed) editor add tag on my wikipedia Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:10, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:11, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Please do not make personal attacks. 331dot (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Did you employ someone to create the article about you? 331dot (talk) 17:19, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

yes but please dont tell anyone otherwise my job lose🥲 Ali AKud12 (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The user needs to disclose that they were paid, see WP:PAID. This is mandatory. 331dot (talk) 17:28, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Ali AKud12. You need to read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and WP:BOSS. ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Note: Another user, AtorneyJuju, appears to be another WP:SPA involved in editing the article and asked if they have a conflict of interest. Deletion tag was added by a now-blocked temp account. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I've tagged the article for Wikipedia:G15 speedy deletion because it's obviously AI-generated. Sorry, @Ali AKud12, but you aren't allowed to put LLM-generated text on Wikipedia (see WP:NOLLM). Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 17:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Recreated as Draft:Khalid Ali Al-Rubeaan, with no response to questions on user's talk page about paid editing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 20:39, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Resource Exchange for other Wikipedias

Apologies if this is not the right forum for the question. I am wondering if there is an equivalent of WP:RX for the Finnish Wikipedia - I am interested in verifying a claim sourced to a particular book on the Finnish Wikipedia, but am unsure where to ask for access to that source. There is no direct equivalent to the project via the languages tab. I would ask on the Finnish Wikipedia, but I do not speak Finnish - I am just interested in a particular claim made in one of their articles. Katzrockso (talk) 19:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@Katzrockso: to check for equivalents on another Wikipedia, you can check interlanguage links via the Wikidata item. fi:Wikipedia:Wikipedian Lähdekirjasto/Lähdepyyntö seems to have a total of two questions ever, and they were both answered in 2026. TSventon (talk) 20:05, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I didn't see a match from the wikidata language link when I check, but thank you! Katzrockso (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The problem could be that the link is from Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request not Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange. I started from your link to WP:RX. TSventon (talk) 21:41, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Atlantic Osprey

Atlantic Osprey

Good morning, this page has a hatnote that is red linked. Is this supposed to happen? ~2026-44470-60 (talk) 00:06, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

No (rather obviously). As there is no article titled "Atlantic Osprey [qualifier]", feel free to delete the hatnote. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Deleting a page

I'd like to delete a page I started about the old Pittsburgh hospital. I don't feel like there's enough information for it's own page. BellyKelly (talk) 01:16, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I have deleted Old South Pittsburgh Hospital. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:13, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I'd like a page deleted that I started about the old Pittsburgh hospital BellyKelly (talk) 02:09, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, done. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:14, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

New Article Submission - How Long For Reply?

Hi. I submitted an article for publishing as a new page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iansteele82?oldid=1372743694) a few weeks ago but haven't had any feedback on whether the page will be accepted or not. How long does it normally take for a submission to be reviewed? Iansteele82 (talk) 03:15, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Your article was not submitted for review. I've added a template on the page so you can submit it. Once you do, it will likely take anywhere from a few hours to a few weeks for it to be reviewed. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 03:26, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the quick response. I'll take a look now. It's not the easiest of tasks, but will hopefully get it submitted now. Iansteele82 (talk) 03:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yep, it's submitted now. Don't forget to add ref tags (<ref> and </ref> on either side of your citations; see Help:REFB). Good luck! :) ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 04:24, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Video on desktop

how do I view video onlineb Mylifenone (talk) 03:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

@Mylifenone: Is this a question specifically about viewing videos on Wikipedia? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:08, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Media video

Are iphones able to be used for viewing Mylifenone (talk) 05:22, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, they have a screen on which you can view video. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:45, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Mylifenone. This help desk is intended for questions related to Wikipedia; it's not a general purpose help desk for anything else. If you have general question like the above, you could try asking them at Wikipedia:Reference desk, but most likely you'll be able to find the information you need through a regular Internet search. There are lots of websites specifically devoted to iPhones and helping those with questions about iPhones; so, perhaps try asking for help at one of them. Now, if your question is directly related to media videos and Wikipedia, then please clarify how so that someone can give you a more specific answer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:55, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

List of 2026 deaths

 Courtesy link: List of 2026 deaths

Gary McCracken - drummer of Max Webster died last week and is not on the Wikipedia Rock 'n' Roll deaths.. how can I reach or can you forward to the propere editor..? ~2026-50819-00 (talk) 09:00, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Added. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:36, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Presley Gerber page made into redirect

I created a page for Presley Gerber and it was made into a redirect. I do not understand why he could not have a page of his own. He was notable in his own right as a model, not solely as the son of Cindy Crawford. There is sufficient coverage from reliable sources, and the article is not being created only because of his family background. He had an independent career, and many smaller biographies with less information are permitted. This page could also be expanded further. ItsShandog (talk) 08:35, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see other stuff exists; we judge each article individually on their own merits and not based on the presence of other articles that themselves may be inappropriate and just not yet addressed by a volunteer. There are many ways inappropriate content can exist on Wikipedia, this cannot justify adding more inappropriate content. That another article exists does not necessarily mean that is is "permitted" or "approved", it only means we haven't dealt with it yet. You can help us to do so, if you wish.

It was made into a redirect by Amakuru with the reason "Redirect non-notable person to notable parent per WP:NOTINHERITED and WP:BLP1E, doesn't meet WP:GNG even if he's in the news for his recent sad death". I would suggest first discussing your concerns with them directly.

Your text mentioned that he was a model, but there was little critical analysis and commentary about his modeling career. 331dot (talk) 08:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Article has been restored after discussion at User talk:Amakuru#Presley Gerber. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:49, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Investigation on an editor

A user with a bunch of numbers and has made 0 edits prior has just said that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 Women's European Volleyball Championship final round and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 Men's European Volleyball Championship final round which I initially created should be deleted. That seems insanely sketchy to me and I would like someone to take a look at it.

Best regards ILoveSport2006 (talk) 08:57, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

The "bunch of numbers" indicates a Temporary account; people using TAs have (subject to restrictions in certain topic areas or protected articles) as much right to comment as anyone else.

The articles will stand or fall depending on the consensus in the whole discussion(s) as to whether they comply with relevant policies; not the opinion of one contributor. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:46, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ILoveSport2006. Anyone can, in principle, participate in an AFD discussion. The numbers you're referring to most likely indicate a Wikipedia:Temporary account. Wikipedia users aren't required to register for an account to edit, and many do use temporary accounts. In fact, they may have been editing using temporary accounts for years and made lots of edits doing so. The best thing you could do is address the reasons why the articles were nominated for deletion in terms of relevant Wikipedia policies since that how consensus is determined: it's WP:NOTABALLOT where the side with the most votes wins. Articles tend to only be deleted when they lack a clear claim of Wikipedia:Notability and no amount editing is going to be able to WP:OVERCOME that. You also should be careful of how you notify others of an AfD type of discussion and avoid anything that might be considered WP:CANVASSING. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:03, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Characters not rendering in pronunciation guide

Some important characters are not rendering on this pronunciation guide page.

Help:IPA/Swedish

I'm using the Android app.

image of the problem: https://www.pasteboard.co/095fwf0nrgXK.jpg

Lunarhound (talk) 13:56, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I get that on my Android as well.

The font on the Android system simply does not contain that particular character "◌̌ ". I guess there's a way of adding another font to your phone to get it, but I don't know how. ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand if I'm supposed to just keep responding here by editing this section, or if there is some "reply" button I'm not seeing, but anyway... ironically, the only place it renders is on this editor (not even in your reply). So it seems like to font is on the phone, but not being found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lunarhound (talk • contribs) 17:38, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Lunarhound. On a computer, when I'm editing, the character appears as the dotted circle followed by the hacek, whereas when the text is displayed it appears as the dotted circle with the hacek above it. So I guess that the circle character is a zero-width character, but the Android display system can't display it correctly. ColinFine (talk) 18:13, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

The help page currently uses a DOTTED CIRCLE (U+25CC) followed by a COMBINING CARON (U+030C). The circle character is not zero-width; rather the caron/hacek is a combining character, so it is supposed to combine with the previous character and be displayed above it. The problem seems to be that the dotted circle does not appear in some fonts. Which is unfortunate since the important thing being conveyed is the caron, not the circle, which is just a placeholder for the character above which the caron would appear. I wonder if it would be better to just omit the circle and use a non-combining caron like U+02C7, which would appear as ˇ. (And likewise use a non-combining circumflex U+005E instead of the combining circumflex U+0302 currently being used.) Alternatively another character could be used instead of DOTTED CIRCLE but I don't know how we would choose a character that is guaranteed to appear in all fonts. CodeTalker (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Latin fonts without the letter o are relatively uncommon. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:04, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

True, but would a reader understand that a caron over an O is intended to mean the caron itself rather than an O with a caron on top? Maybe an underscore with a caron would work? CodeTalker (talk) 07:38, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

You're right, I obviously wasn't thinking carefully. Also obviously, your reasoning is exactly the purpose of the dotted circle so it's unfortunate that it isn't in the font/doesn't have a fallback/etc. Underscore sounds like a decent compromise for just this use, but the dotted circle is expected and is also significantly better in general; for example, underscore with caron is useful but underscore with cedilla is very-not-useful. I guess the other kind of compromise is a group of people on Android being potentially confused by this until their font gets the dotted circle. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I think this problem has existed for some time now: . I remember reading that linked discussion, seeing a solution there, and editing Template:Navbox diacritical marks/set (which the {{Navbox diacritical marks}} template uses) to use that solution, but reverted due to lack of confidence. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 19:15, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia links remain blue

hello I have an issue with my Wikipedia website on my iPhone the problem is I open a link(for example Lionel Messi) I open the tabs that the article has but some of the Tabs even though they exist and I Can open them remain Blue instead of purple after I return to the original page I used Safari , Google and FireFox but it had no effect it remains blue Eshien Hemon (talk) 14:39, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I think "some visited links remain blue" is an Apple bug and not a Wikipedia one, but I can't remember for sure. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:41, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

User:Toketaa

I saw that on Toketaa’s user page, it listed multiple sockpuppet accounts stating that they had sockpuppet accounts such as User:Sadbunny3, and even User:Alibino. I think that maybe Toketaa should be blocked, violation of sockpuppeting.

Thanks,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 18:48, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Can I please talk to a SYSOPS or Admin? Bennett Li11 (talk) 18:55, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

They were previously blocked but made a successful unblock request. If you’d like to talk to an admin, you’d need to go to WP:Administrators' noticeboard or post on your talk page Template:admin help. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:37, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Political party colors

Where I can see HTML color codes of all parties of a certain country in one place? The page Module:Political party lists them only by initial letter of the party name, not by country. --40bus (talk) 19:30, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@40bus: I don't think there are lists by country. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:52, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Articles that show election results might unfortunately be the most efficient under the circumstances. That would tend to exclude defunct parties and minor parties, but might be better than nothing. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:21, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

A good bet is also the country's "list of political parties" article, like List of political parties in Sweden. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 16:32, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to make election apportionment diagrams in an external project, and want to use right color codes. Are there color codes on a Wikidata page of a party? I don't want to dig into hundreds of party names starting on the same letter to find the right color code. The lists in the module page do not even list the country in the party row. --40bus (talk) 17:33, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

List of political parties in Sweden uses colors from Wikidata, but it may not have other parties' colors. I cannot figure out the naming pattern in Module:Political party, but if you can, there is always the option of using multiple {{Party color|<party name>}} lines in your sandbox. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 19:43, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Possible sockpuppetry?

Hello! This could be entirely nothing, so tell me if I’m being too BITEy, but this mentee’s question and this one do look remarkably similar. They were posted only a minute apart, are essentially the same question phrased slightly differently, and have very similar usernames.

Am I just seeing signal in the noise here?

(Edited to add:) Sorry if this is the wrong venue; I thought SPI probably wasn’t the place for such feels-based ‘maybe this is a sockpuppet’ cases, which is why I brought this here, but if there’s a venue for this kind of thing, let me know. Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 22:30, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

(Non-administrator comment) Hi Shadestar474. The use of multiple accounts on Wikipedia by a single user is allowed in certain cases and isn't in and of itself considered to be WP:SOCKPUPPETRY. Sockpuppetry basically implies that someone is using multiple accounts in a way that's detrimental to someone truly being WP:HERE; it's an intentional attempt to evade scrutiny and circumvent policies and guidelines related to normal editing and user behavior. In this case, the similarity of the two posts could indicate they're connected in some way (most likely the case) but could also be one person copying what someone else posted right before them (perhaps not as likely); either way, those two particular accounts have only made one edit each so far, which was just to ask a pretty benign question, and haven't violated any policy or guideline per se. Even if the same person did create both accounts, it seems more likely (at this point) to have been done more in error than anything else. Anyway, both accounts have been advised on their respective user talk pages by another user about the issues related to creating multiple accounts; so, I don't think anything further needs to be done here. Unless you're able to connect these accounts to some other perhaps previously blocked/banned account, an WP:SPI is probably not needed at this point, at least in my opinion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:06, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, just checking. :) I don’t know a whole lot about policy relating to using multiple accounts, since it isn’t something I encounter often, so I’ll keep this in mind. Cheers! 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) In solidarity. 00:29, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

ASIN

Hello Help Desk. What is the policy of ASIN references? I have found one, that seems improper in more than simply ASIN. I understood that ASIN was not to be used. It seems, please understand stress on word "seems," to be possible product placement in reference section of this article: Timeline of Francis Drake's circumnavigation. I wonder if it is a proper edit and uncertain how to proceed. Kind regards, Ah Ngo. Ah Ngo (talk) 00:23, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

The template {{ASIN}} (for the Amazon Standard Identification Number) says This is "an identifier of last resort". Almost any other identifier, such as {{ISBN}}, {{doi}}, {{OCLC}}, {{LCCN}}, etc., is a better choice and should be used instead of this one.

So the reference probably needs further investigation. TSventon (talk) 01:30, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Ah Ngo: I have removed the source. It is self published, not used as a source and was only added on 17 September. It was added as the first line, in bold, with an ASIN rather than an ISBN. TSventon (talk) 01:45, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Is wikipedia shutting down soon?

I heard wikipedia is getting less traffic than it ever has before and wikipedia has also been asking me for donations more then usual. ~2026-51056-17 (talk) 00:31, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51056-17: Wikipedia isn't shutting down anytime soon. The Wikimedia Foundation usually starts soliciting near the end of the year. If you don't want to see the banners, create an account and go to Preferences → Banners → Fundraising and make sure it is unchecked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Fox on Frederick Towne Mall

In the Frederick Towne Mall's decline, a local Fox station states that the mall's decline was helped by Illegal immigrants in the mall's parking lot. Should this be added or is it regular Fox propaganda? Furthermore a rumor is that a man died which caused the Hoyts to close which was originally added here, and readded and deleted multiple times. Wobs100 (talk) 21:22, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

If the Fox claim was discussed (whether credulously or dismissively) by reliable sources, then maybe; if it wasn't, then I don't see why. When was the rumor last added? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:08, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

I have to check to see if the Fox claim was backed up from others, for the stabbing, it was on April 28 of this year Wobs100 (talk) 23:20, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Wobs100, The April edit that you point to asserts that the cinematreasures.org page tells its readers that the cinema closed after the stabbing and murder of a man inside the theater. But the page does not mention any stabbing or murder. Whether the assertion was deliberately deceptive or the result of cluelessness about referencing or of EUI (Editing Under the Influence) or whatever, I see no pressing need to worry about it, as it was made half a year ago. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 00:02, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah I originally added the closure with cinema treasures ref but the user added it back. Its almost like a feedback loop as it was originally added in 2016 and youtubers like Bright Sun Films:2:55 and Nation Decay (who fun fact provided images and contributed to the article) took the wiki info at face value and added it to their content and users who see the video use it as a "ghost source" and adds it back to the article. To debunk it more another video states it was a rumor and the "stabbing" and closure in 2008, while REALLY it closed in 2009 as seen as on the articles source, cinema treasures and here.

For the Fox, I couldn't find it on local newspapers archives or on Google website Wobs100 (talk) 01:50, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I am adding more info to the article however if you want to check it out. Wobs100 (talk) 01:50, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

xkcd coined the term citogenesis for the phenomenon of WP citing a source that got its info from WP. DMacks (talk) 04:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

introducing a new subject for the pages Wikipedia

how do I write a biography of a person to be entered into the pages of Wikipedia? StaplesBets (talk) 00:33, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@StaplesBets: You will want to read Your first article and confirm that the person is wikinotable enough for inclusion. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @StaplesBets, and welcome to Wikipedia.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

I will add to that boilerplate message that somebody who starts editing Wikipedia and immediately wants to write about a particular person or organisation almost always has some connection to that person or organisation, and needs to read about conflict of interest, about promotion, and quite often about When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 09:58, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Dark Mode - accessibility

Hi Team Wiki

Can the dark/light mode be automated using browser / device settings. Finding difficult to set on each visit. ~2026-51087-96 (talk) 10:02, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-51087-96 - AFAIK only if you create an account, then you can add a dark mode toggle under "preferences", "devices". Arjayay (talk) 10:11, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Lack of Articles about RF interferences for communication satellites

Hi,

while following another nerd-rabbithole Ive noticed a lack of article(s) about RF interferences for communication satellites. An arising challenge of the past 5-7 years is the increasing amount of unintentional RF interferences that happen due to the increasing amount of communication satellites (e.g starlink, oneweb).

There is of course a very general article about EM interferences, and in the article for Radio jamming the existence of unintentional RF interferences is mentioned, but there is no own article on this topic.

It feels like I am making this topic up because I can find literally nothing else in Wikipedia. But I am not! French defense company Safran reports its issues, and ESA provides a map of occurences of this phenomen. ESA also has conferences soley dedicated to this topic and it also became more dominant in recent space safety and SSA research.

Any comments? ~2026-50947-38 (talk) 09:20, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

So fix it! Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:21, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Is there a limit on the number of albums I can include on a discography?

I am working on a Wikipedia page for Stephanie Spruill, a background singer, vocal contractor and artist development specialist who has worked with Michael Jackson, The Jacksons, Donna Summer, Tina Turner and more. Most recently she was the vocal coach for the movie MICHAEL. Upon researching I found she has participated on over 100 albums. Is there a limit or cut off on the number of albums she has worked on that I could safely include in her discography section without it looking like a directory? Thank you. Linwoods96 (talk) 16:47, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Discographies are for material from bands and/or solo artists, we wouldn't include a performance as a background singer in a discography. AndyTheGrump (talk) 17:03, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. ~2026-49960-73 (talk) 17:24, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Linwoods96 Your question was very reasonable, as your others have also been. And most of your questions end up highlighting the same problem: a backup singer rarely gets any in-depth coverage of their career from reliable sources, and parroting the reliable in-depth coverage that already existed is pretty much the only thing Wikipedia will do. (We do often add extra information from sources that are "reliable but not in-depth", but only after multiple in-depth analyses of the person's career have been set down as the main material of the article.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:28, 18 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your response as I prepare to submit an article on vocal coach, arranger, singer, songwriter, arranger and artist development specialist Stephanie Spruill. I researched a comparison artist, Merry Clayton. She is another singer who was also a background singer and worked with many artists in support of their music. I found her work to closely align with Stephanie Spruill. They have often worked as background singers on the same projects. Thank you again. Linwoods96 (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Attendance

i got terminated by the system ~2026-51264-65 (talk) 21:57, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

please clarify: is this related to Wikipedia? RudolfRed (talk) 22:13, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Would like a high resolution copy of a photo.

Hi I would like to use the photo by Cyclonebiskit of the Woolsey Fire (on wikimedia commons) for a book I'm writing.

Is there a high resolution version of the photo I can use? Thank you. ~2026-51216-07 (talk) 21:54, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-51216-07.

Assuming you are talking about c:File:Woolsey Fire evacuation from Malibu on November 9, 2018.jpg, you can look at that information page on Commons, and see that Cyclonebiskit uploaded it at 1080x906, and licensed it under CC-BY-SA 4.0.

If that resolution is not adequate for your purposes, the only way you are going to get a higher resolution is by asking Cyclonebiskit if they have one.

However, @Cyclonebiskit says on their user page that they are retired, so they will probably not see messages on their user talk page. They have enabled email, however, so if you create an account and enable email, you will be able to go to their user page and "Email this user". (There's no guarantee that they'll respond, of course). ColinFine (talk) 22:43, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Historic Data

Hi, I have seen in the Wikipedia page of Pakistan related districts and cities, the religious composition shows table for every decadal census. Is this actually okay or can I remove them? Some of them like Lahore, Multan etc has religious census data from 1868 till the recent 2023 Census Weichan123 (talk) 17:15, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Looking at those pages, the tables don't seem to take up an inordinate amount of space. Assuming they are correctly sourced, why would you remove them? Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 18:13, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

When we are covering religious demographics isn't it better to cover just recent census and just one old census? Weichan123 (talk) 07:28, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I don’t really think so. The articles cover the history of the cities as well as their current status, and we also include historical census data for overall population. This seems fine to me. Suðurhafsljósæta (talk) 08:33, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok thanks Weichan123 (talk) 17:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Weichan123 I think (?) that you might be questioning the inclusion of religion because a Wikipedia article about a person should not include their religion except under certain circumstances. As far as I know, that non-inclusion of religion is just for individuals, and does not apply to the census statistics for a country. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:46, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

No..not for individuals, in the above mentioned pages on cities, the religion section covers census data from 1868 Weichan123 (talk) 07:23, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm saying that we don't usually mention the religion of one individual, but we DO want old census data about religion and it should definitely be kept. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:18, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Ok, got it Weichan123 (talk) 05:08, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Personal lies

counter claim against lies about myself ~2026-51256-63 (talk) 09:59, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

If you have concerns about the content of an article about you, please raise them at the Biographies of living persons noticeboard. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Header Change

How do I change the header of a Wiki-Page? Talk2vit (talk) 17:34, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

You mean the title? See WP:Moving a page. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:35, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

I will note, however, that your userpage would be immediately tagged for deletion if you attempted to move it into mainspace. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:37, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

The user page User:Talk2vit has a great amount of information about one person and looks like an article (an article doomed for deletion, but an article all the same). The list of things that you may not have in your user pages includes "Inappropriate or excessive personal information unrelated to Wikipedia" and "User pages that look like articles". -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 21:41, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Talk2vit Your equivalent submission at Draft:Vitus Maximilan-Mary Nwabueze has been declined and is clearly an attempt at autobiography. Read that linked page and note that you are likely to fail to meet Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. We also have strict rules about biographies of living people. They must by policy give inline citations for all facts, which your draft fails to do. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:09, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Help with template error message

On Talk:Auguste Escoffier School of Culinary Arts, I was pinged to help with a connected edit request, and noticed the Edit COI template and others in the latest request aren't rendering correctly. In preview mode, it says at the top "Warning: Post-expand include size is too large. Some templates will not be included", which links to Help:Template limits#Post-expand include size. There's no info about what to do to fix this. I tried removing some templates in preview mode, but that didn't do anything. Can anyone help fix this so the templates work correctly? STEMinfo (talk) 07:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I've archived two resolved sections from the talk page, which should help. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:34, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Link to my video in YouTube

Innocently, I uploaded a video to YouTube (j9IXaMAbXjc) showing a molecule rotating in 3D, with the intent of citing it in the "Phytochrome" article I am editing . But now I see that it's not allowed for copyright reasons - even though it's my video! How can I get around this? Best Photochrom (talk) 21:36, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Photochrom.

Please see Donating copyright materials. ColinFine (talk) 21:48, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@Photochrom Put the acceptable Creative Commons license on the YT vid/page, like this video here:. Then you can upload it licensed like this: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

hi @Gråbergs Gråa Sång

that was very helpful - easy when you know how!

best Photochrom (talk) 11:57, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Query about the copyright status of an image

What would the copyright status of this image from this news article by The Wire be, and would it be okay for me to publish it to Wikimedia Commons? — EarthDude (Talk) 14:26, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

You might do better to ask on Commons, at c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 15:01, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

2 pages with the same list.

Hi there. I see there are lists with all video games released by a system. There's also the Category page which lists the same games on 1 page. For example: List of Xbox 360 games and Category:Xbox 360 games. Is there a reason there's 2 pages with more or less the same content? AngelSparkles (talk) 17:29, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@AngelSparkles: Categories can only show the page name which is added by editing the article, not the category, and there are special search methods for categories. Lists like List of Xbox 360 games (A–L) can add different details. See more at Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Ok. Thanks. AngelSparkles (talk) 17:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Fish

feesh DiysonDevil (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you have a question about editing Wikipedia? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 15:15, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

so how do I create an article DiysonDevil (talk) 15:30, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Creating a new article is not recommended as the first thing a new user does. There is much to learn about the process, and not doing so is likely to lead to frustration. It is best to first edit existing articles to learn how things work and what is expected of article content.

If you wish to proceed anyway, please first use the new user tutorial, then use the Article Wizard to create a draft. 331dot (talk) 15:36, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@DiysonDevil Wikipedia already has many articles about fish. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:18, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Thumb images in tables

Somewhere, we have advice about not using |thumb with images inside tables, but I can't find it. It ought to be at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images. The closest that I can find is MOS:INFOBOXIMAGE but that's specific to infoboxes, not tables more generally. The guidance - as I recall it - is basically about avoiding borders-within-borders. As an example of what I want to clean up, see List of ArmaLite rifles, where the image's padding, border and margin occupy more real estate than the image itself. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:58, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Table formatting

Does anyone know why this edit isn't displaying properly? It doesn't work even if the rowspan=3 comes first; I've tried.

Pinging Livelikemusic, who made the edit. ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 18:36, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Please do not ping me, thank you. livelikemusic (TALK!) 18:39, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

This is, essentially, the same issue as Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 138#Table formatting List_of_mayors_of_Bremen. It's come up at VPT much more recently - within the last two years I would say - but that's the one I found in a quick search. In brief: every column has a rowspan somewhere, and none of the columns have separate cells for every row. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:56, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@Redrose64 Thanks, but I don't really understand your explanation on that page, although I do see you mentioning in that thread that you fixed the issue. Could you please fix it on this article too? ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 19:06, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

The only "fix" that is both reliable and non-hacky involves ensuring that there is at least one column that has no rowspans, and that is what was done here. I've also found Help talk:Table#Row split in two. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:23, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I have used another fix with height:3em to avoid repeating the ref. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:14, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much! ~2026-41404-95 (talk) 20:24, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

biography of F. Scott Fitzgerald

Is there any way that I can pay you for your written biography of F. Scott Fitzerald? I do not like to print out that many pages from my own computer. I would be glad to pay you for a written biography mailed to my home address. ~2026-51416-82 (talk) 20:18, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't offer that kind of service; it is an online encyclopedia run by remote volunteers. If your local library has a printer, you could try printing it there if you like. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 20:22, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-51416-82. Another possibility is to pick "Download as PDF", and then take or send that PDF to your local print-shop and ask them to print it. ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia IP users.

So I just discovered Wikipedia got rid of them. But why did Wikipedia think it was a good idea to expose your IP address to EVERYONE if you are not logged in? Like I don't want some psycho coming to my house because he didn't like my edit. I'm glad that temp accounts replaced it so I don't have to worry about creeps knowing where I live. ~2026-51422-48 (talk) 02:34, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

It worked, and many preferred it to registering. Also an old thing, and I think pretty common when it started, and there was opposition to changing it without something that wouldn't make things harder for editors to stop disruption in it's place. It happened anyway per "lawyers says we must". You may find Wikipedia:Temporary_accounts#History interesting, there are still some Wikipedians who can find out your IP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that IPs generally don't identify your exact address, just your general geographical area (exactly how precise depends on how your internet service provider has set up their network). Still a privacy issue certainly, and that's why the WMF was pressured to move away from that. Athanelar (talk) 20:59, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Link directs to wrong page

This link

• James Royston Clark on Category:English broadcasters for Nazi Germany goes to the wrong page (about a different person)

~2026-51263-16 (talk) 09:19, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

That link redirects to "Dolly Eckersley's German sojourn" under Edward Clark's personal life section (because no dedicated article exists for James Royston Clark). - Rehman 09:39, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51263-16 Good find, per WP:RCAT that link shouldn't be in any content categories because it's a redirect and not an article. I've now removed it from all the categories it was in. Thanks for your contribution! Athanelar (talk) 20:57, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@Athanelar: WP:RCAT does allow redirects in content categories, it is a matter of judgement when that helps navigation and when it doesn't. TSventon (talk) 21:40, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

I should know better than to go off of my half-remembrance of these things; egg on my face. Still, the given examples don't apply here, and I don't think it makes sense for the link to be in the categories it was in given what it redirects to. Athanelar (talk) 21:42, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Guidance around template colouring

Evening folks!! What is the guidance around template colouring. I specifically looking at the two dropdowns on this article. Yasht i Gahan, It looks like an odd colour? scope_creep^Talk 21:19, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Does MOS:COLOUR help? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 22:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

CATALANO FOR AMERICA 2028

IT CAME OUT 2928 IN THE TITLE, IT IS WRON,G I MUST CHANGE THIS CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 (talk) 00:53, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928: There is a process for changing username, if that helps. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:24, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Also note that spaces are allowed. And you can just create a new account if you abandon this one without making edits against Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

how do i fix this can i just start over? CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 (talk) 02:12, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928: Yes, you can just start over with another account. If you make no further edits as CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 then you will not break Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

@CATALANOFORAMERICA2928 When you start over, do not select a username that sounds like you are campaigning for an election. "CATALANOFORAMERICA2028", for example, would not be an allowed username. David10244 (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Herbert Vanallen Clark - corrections needed

This individual was my father's first cousin, his mother and my grandmother were sisters.... Genealogy/family history research is my lifelong hobby. I contributed the photo and information posted by the Encyclopedia of Arkansas. Under Wikipedia's "Talk" I provided statements and sources for false information posted by Wikipedia. How can Wikipedia's article be corrected? Or will it be necessary for our family (consisting of approximately 1,200 descendants) to campaign and broadcast Wikipedia's refusal to correct your false/inaccurate posting throughout the www?

Teacakes123 (talk) 23:03, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

So, Teacakes123, you're asking about Herbert V. Clark. In Talk:Herbert V. Clark#Request_for_factual_corrections_to_the_Herbert_V._Clark_article, you've asked for edits. You've done so politely and informatively, and you've waited over a week, but there's been no refusal or other response. Well, English-language Wikipedia seemingly has squillions of articles, and this particular article will be on few editor's "watchlists". (I might even be the second person, following you, to see this "Request".) I suggest that you post to the foot of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history a very brief notice that there's a list of requests at Talk:Herbert V. Clark#Request_for_factual_corrections_to_the_Herbert_V._Clark_article. Keep this notice factual and nonpartisan. (Eager though you may be to call up hundreds of your kinsmen to storm the battlements of Wikipedia, better not to mention this eagerness.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 23:34, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Teacakes123. Just to add what Hoary posted above, edit requests trying to get an article pretty much entirely re-written in one fell swoop usually never work. All of the WP:WIKIPEDIANs answering edit requests are volunteers who work at their own time and pace; so, long edit requests asking for lots of changes tend to get passed over or even ignored because figuring out what is what tends to require more time and energy than many want to spend on a single request. In addition, your request is also likely going to go unnoticed for quite awhile by those helping with requests because it's not really formatted the way requests are typically formatted. So, it might be a good idea for you to take a look at WP:EDITREQUEST and follow the guidance given there by breaking up to request in to smaller easier-to-sort out pieces. You can use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard to help you do this. You could add a Template:Edit COI to your current request so that it's added to the edit request queue, but I think it's only likely going to end up beng declined as it currently is.

Finally, you need to be kind of careful when you post things like this on Wikipedia. I can understand your frustration since Wikipedia can be hard to figure out when your new to it, but posting anything that resembles a "threat" of some kind if things aren't done the way you want them done when you want them done usually doesn't go down to well and can lead to issues with others. Wikipedia is a collaborative editing project entirely made up of WP:VOLUNTEERs, many of who are happy to try an help others such as yourself, but you need to be patient and let the process work. Wikipedia articles aren't WP:OWNED by their subjects or anyone who represents them. Wikipedia articles are created about subjects deemed to be Wikipedia:Notable, and permission of the subject of the article isn't needed. Similarly, articles tend to only be deleted when its demonstrated that subject isn't really Wikipedia notable and most likely shouldn't have been created to begin with; they are almost never deleted because the subject or those connected to subject are unhappy because the article isn't they way they want it to be. Wikipedia tries to WP:PRESERVE content whenever possible, particularly when there's not a really good Wikipedia policy-based or guideline-based reason to remove or delete it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:44, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Teacakes123, I warmly second what Marchjuly has written. And a minor clarification. I wrote: this particular article will be on few editor's watchlists; I meant to write this particular article, like most, will be on few editors' watchlists, so few will have been alerted to the arrival of a new message on its talk page (and not all of these will have noticed the alert). -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 07:26, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

I have added {{Edit COI}} to your existing request. Please be aware that it can take some time (several weeks is not unusual) for a volunteer to get around to reviewing such requests. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 10:59, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Is Ancestry.com a reliable source? David10244 (talk) 04:48, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@David10244: Per WP:ANCESTRY, it's considered generally unreliable, largely in part due to WP:UGC. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:15, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

How long does an article stay on AFD

Does an AfD discussion block an ITN nomination? The article I created Presley Gerber was nominated for ITN before it was listed at AfD. ItsShandog (talk) 07:03, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ItsShandog. I believe an AfD is, in principle, allowed to remain open at least a week (unless its closed earlier for a good reason), but there's no limit as to how long it can remain open. Basically, it remains open until someone feels enough of a discussion has taken place to close it. An administrator can even relist an AfD when more discussion could lead to a clearer consensus. My feeling is that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Presley Gerber will probably remain open for at least a week and most likely longer given the arguments made by both sides and the number of comments made so far. As for whether an AfD affects an ITN nomination, I'd imagine it would because generally only articles without any currently pending issues tend to be the ones that end up on the main page (which is where ITN is mentioned). -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:42, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

How can I confirm if a page has been reviewed?

Usually, when a page is reviewed it shows that it has been in the notices, but on one I created yesterday it says a review has suggested improvements, which was only the orphan tag that I have now resolved and would have addressed anyway. I cannot see it on the new pages feed, and it is not appearing in Google search, where pages normally show up soon after review. I have not come across this before, so I am not sure how to confirm whether it has been fully reviewed yet. The Page is Killing of Inga Maria Hauser. ItsShandog (talk) 11:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ItsShandog, I went to Special:NewPagesFeed, clicked on "Set filters" to look at pages you created and saw that Killing of Inga Maria Hauser has a blue "This page is still unreviewed" icon. TSventon (talk) 13:01, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

No problem, thank you! ItsShandog (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Oral tradition legend

How do I add an article about a piece of folklore that is part of local oral tradition? Turkey Creek Legend (talk) 14:39, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Per core Wikipedia policy, Wikipedia articles must meet notability criteria: which requires in-depth coverage in published reliable sources. You'd have to find the sources first, which may very well not be possible. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

To protect the folklore, I would advise against trying to get it included here. Wikipedia has strict rules that allow only material from impartial publications with paid fact-checkers on staff, and there is no exception for oral tradition. This means that you, and others who actually know the story, would be actively prevented from correcting it according to your own knowledge. You can imagine that newspaper reporters (and so on) may have made a hash of the story over the years, and their version - with no additions or corrections from you - is the only thing Wikipedia would accept.

This rule was not really made for people like you - it was made to keep out intentional lies, misguided researchers with crackpot theories, and stuff that some individual simply made up one day. But it is a foundational rule of Wikipedia, and exceptions aren't made to it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:14, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll add - if you do have several sources that fit Wikipedia's definition of reliable sources, and if you're satisfied to present only their version of the story, then go ahead and start writing! Every important point of the story has to be cited to the exact page where a reliable source has printed that information. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Actor Mustaq khan age is 76 but showing 56 in wiki

Actor Mustaq khan age is 76 but showing 56 in wiki ~2026-51618-89 (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link: Mushtaq Khan. 1969 - 2026 is 56/57 years, as the sources in the article state. ~2026-51457-41 (talk) 18:20, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The article Mushtaq Khan (note spelling used for article) cites four published sources giving either his age as 56 or 57 or his birthdate as 31 December 1969 (though none of these sources may be entirely reliable). Although people in showbusiness sometimes falsify their ages for career purposes, a discrepancy of 20 years would not seem plausible.

What published source (ideally a WP:Reliable source) do you have that instead gives his age as 76, implying he was born in 1949/50, not 1969/70, or that gives his date of birth?

Are you perhaps confusing this actor and comedian with someone else of the same name (though presumably not Mushtaq Khan (economist), who is 64/5)? The name appears not unusual, so there must be many people (alive and dead) who share it. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 18:21, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

IMDb lists three actors called Mustaq Khan but doesn't give an age for any of them. None have Wikipedia articles, and they are probably not notable. Multiple reliable sources agree that Mushtaq Khan was 56. Certes (talk) 18:51, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

delete pages- Robert Hurlbut from Rochester NY

Im looking for a deleted page. It's on Robert Hurlbut from Rochester NY. I know there was a page. Could someone search your deleted pages and send me a download or special link? I'm doing some research on my grandfather. ~2026-51428-31 (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I just looked for "Robert Hurlbut" as the title of a deleted article or deleted draft-article, and in all archived discussions and mentions in any other place on-wiki that might have been linked previously, and came up empty:( Might it have included a middle name/initial or used a shortened form of "Robert"? DMacks (talk) 16:18, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Or is it possible that the article was under the name of an event or item, something he was involved with that received more press coverage than he did as a person? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:35, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51428-31 Wikidata led me to two articles about a surgeon with that name, see this one and this one. Does that help? Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Robert Hurlbut of Rochester N.Y. suggests Robert H. Hurlbut, nursing home owner, but "Robert H. Hurlbut" never existed. TSventon (talk) 17:33, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you have an idea approximately when the article did exist? DMacks (talk) 18:34, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I found a 20 year old decline: Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-09-02#Robert_Hurlbut, but he doesn't seem to be from Rochester. MKFI (talk) 19:27, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Instagram photos as a reference

I am researching Stephanie Spruill, vocal coach to the movie Michael, singer, songwriter and percussionist. I saw on her Instagram account that she received Grammy Appreciation Certificates for her background vocals work on several Grammy Award winning projects: Dolly Parton's "9 to 5," Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive," Donna Summer's "Hot Stuff," and Irene Cara's "Flashdance - What A Feeling." Could I use the Instagram link as a reference in writing a Wikipedia article on Stephanie Spruill? https://www.instagram.com/p/DUmcDPfDCia/ Linwoods96 (talk) 21:09, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

No. Don't use social media references, particularly instagram. It is user-generated content and is junk. scope_creep^Talk 21:22, 23 September 2026 (UTC)

Until you have three major sources that each discuss her career in depth and at length without any influence from her, literally nothing can get the article accepted. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

This does not include images, which generally have minimal context imputed to them. I will also point out that backstage personnel are vanishingly likely to have any sources on them that would be acceptable for Wikipedia. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 18:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

This does not include images @Jéské Couriano Which "this" are you referring to, that doesn't include images? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:33, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

on moving drafts

it appears i have made an oopsie

can drafts be moved to different titles mid-afc submission without causing problems? consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 21:03, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes--what is the draft in question and where do you want it moved? SomeoneDreaming (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@Consarn are you talking about the draft I just declined? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 21:16, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

ye

should probably have moved it to a title with a disambiguator beforehand, but if it's been declined, i can probably just move it and resubmit consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Aren't the drafts about the same subject? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:30, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:Archax is about a robot, Archax is about a digital asset exchange. TSventon (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

huh? what led you to think that? i don't think asset exchanges and robots are very easy to get mixed... consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:44, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm a little distracted at the moment and trying to balance a few things at the same time. In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:45, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

oh, fair. i'll just try again after i'm done cooking~ consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:49, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you want me to move it for you? In solidarity, Dafootballguy (Want to talk?) 22:50, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

i can do that later, so there's no need to worry consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 22:52, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Definition of "Etymology"

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Can someone explain it in simple English, please? Thank you! ~2026-51667-61 (talk) 01:10, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-51667-61.This help desk is really only intended to be used for asking questions about Wikipedia. You could try asking about this at Wikipedia:Reference desk. You could also take a look at the Wikipedia article Etymology or simply just Google "Etymology". -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:14, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

It's the academic study of an extinct tribe of hillbilly cannibals ~2026-51667-61 (talk) 01:15, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Plot vs Recap (movies, shows, etc)

The last few weeks or more I've noticed on articles about a movie, the plot is quite long and is filled with spoilers. Just today I was reading about the new movie _____. I should have not read more than a few lines...sure enough up pops a spoiler (death of a character). I had not stared watching the movie yet. I look at these articles for general "about" info and for the actors and characters names and possible relationships).

After watched, returned to the article here and sure enough gave up the whole show. If I had read it all it would have spoiled the whole movie for me. It did not used to be this way. I have used Wikipedia for years, ebbs and flows for movies) at the top, There are plenty of entertainment wikis for whole story recaps.

If editors insist on giving away the whole show they should put a big bold spoiler alert at the top. Better yet just a paragraph with the main plotline.

Thanks for listening. Other fan sites run into this too....a big peeve of mine. SueMac2 (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see WP:SPOILER.Naraht (talk) 03:00, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia is firmly committed to keeping spoilers, and spoiler warnings are deliberately prohibited by policy. If you don't want spoilers, the only solution is to stay away from the "Plot" sections. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:01, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Also, please note that this "last few weeks" change actually happened 19 years ago. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:31, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Mgr Yvo Josef Rynda

Hezký den,

jmenuji se Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda.

Žádám Vás o pomoc. Prosím Vás, odstraňte VŠECHNO, co se týká mého jména→ texty, obrázky. Nesouhlasím je zveřejňovat. Všechno do koše. Je to proti zákonům. Děkuji Vám. Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NMg5BRVlDekd3am16UDBtTToOcGNtY2ptX0lIbzVKQU0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NGAEwARgHIJ7J-okKSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNMg5jTFpOUGZmTTdsSWxGTToOWXVHMHlWdU5NSXE4TE0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNGAEwARgHIN-Az-MGSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Kn%C4%9Bz_Yvo_Josef_Rynda.jpg

Good day,

My name is Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda.

I am asking for your help. Please remove EVERYTHING related to my name—texts and images. I do not consent to their publication. Delete it all. It is against the law. Thank you. Mgr. Yvo Josef Rynda

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAx XZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQIBhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAj EwuAEDyAEA-AEBmAILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz -img#sv=CAMSURoyKhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NMg5BRVlDekd3am16UDBtTToOcGNtY2ptX0lIbzVKQU0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLUFFWUN6R3dqbXpQMG1NGAEwARgHIJ7J-okKSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://www.google.com/search ?q=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&sca_esv=033d84a1d3790378&udm=2&biw=1280&bih=573&ei=CRC1arNE2evv9Q-088vgAw&ved=2ahUKEwjz7LXflIeXAxXZ9bsIHbT5EjwQ4dUDegQI BhAN&uact=5&oq=Rynda+Yvo+Josef&gs_lp=Egtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZyIPUnluZGEgWXZvIEpvc2VmMgYQABgIGB5I1lZQmw9YkENwAXgAkAEAmAE8oAGWBKoBAjEwuAEDyAEA-AEBm AILoAKkBcICBhAAGAcYHsICBRAAGIAEwgIHEAAYgAQYE8ICCRAAGIAEGBMYCpgDAIgGAZIHAjExoAefCbIHAjEwuAeDBcIHBzItOS4xLjHIB1SACAE&sclient=gws-wiz-img#sv= CAMSURoyKhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNMg5jTFpOUGZmTTdsSWxGTToOWXVHMHlWdU5NSXE4TE0gBCoXCgFzEhBlLWNMWk5QZmZNN2xJbEZNGAEwARgHIN-Az-MGSggQARgBIAEoAQ

https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Kn%C4%9Bz_Yvo_Josef_Rynda.jpg ~2026-51477-99 (talk) 12:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, it should be noted that 'consent for publication' is not a legal requirement in any jurisdiction I can think of. Secondly, we have no control over what Google does. And thirdly, if you have an issue with what appears to be a legitimately-licensed photograph hosted on the Czech Wikipedia, you need to raise the issue there: this is the English-language Wikipedia, and we have no authority over what goes on there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, I haven't heard of it either. The EU's Right to Be Forgotten isn't as much as mentioned, and there's a book in Czech about it! (See above). Secondly, DuckDuckGo likewise. Which brings up a Facebook page and a YouTube video. That bird has flown. And thirdly, Monsignor, as per the Streisand effect https://tn.nova.cz/zpravodajstvi/clanek/371415-v-cesku-slouzi-falesny-knez-varovala-sestra-je-to-jinak, https://isir.justice.cz/isir/doc/dokument.PDF?id=56337838#2#1, etc. kencf0618 (talk) 17:57, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

My read of it is that "consent for publication" is based on a misinterpretation of the Right to Be Forgotten. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 18:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

According to the article on Nova, Rynda has been accepted back into the church after leaving it in the past, BUT accepted as a layman and not as clergy; it says he has been misrepresenting himself by dressing up as a priest when he is not a priest. The law about this, whatever it is, is only about people's private lives. Pretending to be a priest is not a private matter. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:30, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Mi celular tiene virus altamente peligrosos que debo acer

Mi cel tiene virus altamente dañinos q Devo acer3 ~2026-51552-81 (talk) 07:41, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This is a page for asking about Wikipedia, not about problems with phones. The best of luck with your phone, however. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:02, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Subtitle editing

Hello. What do I need to do to be able to edit article subtitles? ~2026-48157-50 (talk) 22:19, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

What is one of the articles where it needs changing? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:24, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-48157-50: What do you mean by article subtitles? Are you referring to the headings that separate sections in the body of the article? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 22:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

As an example, do you mean something like "Euphoria" within In God We Trust (Euphoria), or something like "Accolades" as a section header within that article, or something else? -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 22:47, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-48157-50. I wonder if you are referring to short descriptions?

If so, the section "How to Edit" on that page may answer your question. ColinFine (talk) 08:40, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

restoration of the article

Hello! I would like to ask a question regarding the article about the renowned Russian antique dealer and collector Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov.

The article was recently deleted. Mikhail Suslov is a patron of the arts and a philanthropist from St. Petersburg, as well as one of the foremost experts on antiques.

With his consent, I am requesting assistance in restoring the page. We are prepared to substantiate all the published information with sources.

Sincerely and with gratitude! ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 18:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51498-76 I can't find any former article about such a man, could you tell us exactly what the title of the article was so that we can check the reason for deletion?

In any case, creating a Wikipedia article is bot merely about "substantiating" the information; you need to prove that he meets our special definition of a notable person in order for there to be an article about him, not merely prove that he exists. Athanelar (talk) 19:37, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

In addition, having Suslov's consent is a difficult problem for you, not a helpful thing at all. It means you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest on the topic of Suslov, and your ability and permission to write about him is in fact greatly reduced - not increased at all. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:54, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Good afternoon! Thank you for the detailed answers.

I am not an affiliate of Mr. Suslov, nor do I carry out any personal or business assignments for him.

I am attaching a link to a photograph from the original article. That article, which was in Russian, focused on Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov and featured this photo.

Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov is one of Russia's most renowned collectors and antique dealers; he has collaborated on numerous projects with the Hermitage Museum and the Tretyakov Gallery and has donated artworks from his collection to major museums in Russia and around the world.

He undoubtedly belongs among the contemporary figures in art and culture who have their own Wikipedia articles. It is possible that the article was deleted by detractors as a result of a personal conflict.

I am relying on your experience; with respect and gratitude.

File:Суслов Михаил Алексеевич.jpg. ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 08:09, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51498-76: Was the article deleted from English Wikipedia? I've tried several variations of Mikhail Alekseyevich Suslov, but I'm unable to find any record of an article about this person existing on English Wikipedia. Are you perhaps asking about an article deleted from a different language Wikipedia? Without knowing the name of the article, there's no way to see why it was deleted. Without knowing why it was deleted, there's no way to assess whether it can be restored. If it was deleted from another language Wikipedia, there's nothing anyone here can do to help you other than to advise you to seek assistance on that Wikipedia. Each of the Wikipedias are separate projects with their own policies/guidelines and their own volunteer communities applying those policies/guidelines. Finally, articles are only deleted from English Wikipedia for the reasons given in WP:DELETION, and they can only be deleted by an English Wikipedia admininstrator. So, it's very unlikely an English Wikipedia article was deleted by a detractor of Suslov for personal reasons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:20, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Yes, the article was in Russian...

Have a good day ~2026-51498-76 (talk) 09:58, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

If the article were here, the subject's permission is not required; they cannot grant or deny such permission. 331dot (talk) 10:25, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

If you want to ask about a Russian article then you should ask (in Russian) at the Russian Wikipedia, the equivalent page there is ru:Википедия:Форум/Вопросы. TSventon (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The link was ru:Суслов, Михаил Алексеевич. If you click on it you will see a note that the article was deleted on 19 August 2026 and a link to a discussion. TSventon (talk) 10:59, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Peter Nogly

 Courtesy link: Peter Nogly

Hi, I changed his bio, but really not correct. I couldnt not perfect made my sources, and also I couldnt change the category from living people to 2026 deaths. The new stile of page is really dificult for me. Any ideas to help. I am from Germany. Eastfrisian2 (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This seems to have ben fixed now.

Thank you for your contribution. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:20, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Query re editors

Hi

Is it legitimate that someone who says they are an experienced Wikipedia editor would contact you to write a Wikipedia page about you? ~2026-51752-65 (talk) 23:49, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

No, that is a common scam. Please don't give them any money. They will almost certainly just take your money and then do nothing.

You can read the Wikipedia:Scam warning page for more information. Please feel free to reach out if you need any help or have any questions.

This is a scam, please don't give any money to them. ‑‑gurkubondinn 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51752-65: There are some editors on here who do write on behalf of subjects, but they are obligated to declare any conflicts of interest or paid relationships. Someone who reaches out unsolicited and asks for money in exchange for creating an article should be scrutinised carefully, as more often than not it's a scam. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I think that is generous to the point of being misleading. Your "more often than not" seems likely to equal 999,999 times out of a million. It's a scam. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I would hope people would be able to tell if something is too good to be true, but alas, 'tis rare. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

That also, but implying that such an offer might have the possibility of being legitimate by saying it needs scrutiny, when in fact scrutiny is a waste of time and gives undue credit to the scammers, and when there is no potential for it to be legitimate, is probably not helpful. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 13:51, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

AI images policy

Hi folks. I found myself on the Margay page following links from Tilcayo. I noted some discussion of AI use for images previously uploaded to the Tilcayo page, which are now on the Margay page. Comparing these images with the other two on the Margay article, I continue to have suspicions. The contrast between the orange and white, and the perfectly straight whiskers, both seem a giveaway. I'm curious about what the process is for flagging/querying possibly-AI-generated images, it's not something I've come across before. Medievalfran (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am a passerby, but which images are you specifically talking about? ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Medievalfran Images are hosted on Commons and the guidance there is at c:Commons:AI-generated media. Putting such images into en:Wikipedia articles should probably be discussed on the relevant article's talk page. However, see WP:AIIMAGES which suggests that use here should be very limited. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

In the event of my death

Hi. I've been fighting cancer for most of the year, and have been very ill, I have been quite near to death sadly. If all goes well, I should survive, but its not unreasonable to say I could pass away even relatively quickly from a sudden infection for example, and may not have time to notify people of my passing. As I'd like my user page and talkpage to be protected in the event of my death, what should I do? Edlectro28 (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to hear that, there is some guidance at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines#Planning ahead, do come back if you have more questions. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 One suggestion might be to set up a kind of "dead man's switch" template on your userpage. You could create a template which says something like "If I haven't edited for [a week/a month/etc] I may be deceased, please replace the content of my userpage with [another template]".

For what it's worth, I sincerely pray you're able to overcome your disease. Athanelar (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

I had wondered about this. Will do. Thanks for your prayers Edlectro28 (talk) 16:59, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Hi, I had a rare form of Hodgkin's lymphoma a number of years ago and am still here thanks to some intensive chemo. I hope all goes well for you. Best, MinorProphet (talk) 15:46, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and congrats to you! I'm also on some high intensity form of chemo, it's all horrible but the side effects aren't as bad now I'm having it post operation. Wishing good health to you buddy. Edlectro28 (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Many thanks, and to you too you. I suggest (perhaps controversially) that is possible to make friends with the dark destroyer: do you know Death Be Not Proud by John Donne? Consider also "All will be well, and all manner of thing shall be well" by Julian of Norwich, woven into T.S. Eliot's "Little Gidding" from Four Quartets. Very best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to see the last time 'In the news' was updated?

{{In the news}}

This could be a user script for my own use while I am logged in (similar to any gadget, but most similar is the XTools gadget), or it could be a new suggestion in the ITN guideline which could say "at the end of the ITN template, please state the last update time by signing with five tildes (~~~~~) or by using a diff link". Feel free to move this to a more relevant forum. Thanks. Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 13:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The bottom of all pages say "This page was last edited on [date], [time]". Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups says how long ago a page was edited when you hover over a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Okay, the last edited time at the footer could be a workaround. Thanks! Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 14:16, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Failing that, see the page history. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:26, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh wait, the Main Page doesn't display the last update date, but then again I could add the ITN template to my watchlist. :) Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 00:27, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The update time of Main Page is hidden because it would be misleading to readers. Most of the displayed content changes every day but it's transcluded from other pages. "last edited" only refers to the wikitext of the page itself and Main Page hasn't been edited since 12 June 2026. It's the only page with a hidden date. A page cannot hide the date on its own. It's done at MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css#L-14. The date is still sent to the browser but with an added CSS rule to not display it. It can be revealed with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?safemode=1 which omits loading various CSS and JavaScript. Many wikis do display the date but should probably hide it like us. I'm Danish and the Danish Wikipedia hid it on my request. Their main page only has one edit since 2008 but some of the content changes daily. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Virat Kohli six sot

~2026-51551-86 (talk) 02:21, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are asking. Please clarify. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This is presumably about Virat Kohli, but like Spiderone, I've no idea what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

"Six shot", duh - I imagine it might be a bit like what Gary Sobers did back in 1968, but I'm no cricket fan... MinorProphet (talk) 15:37, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Ministry of Culture (France)

 Courtesy link: Ministry of Culture (France) Hello! Can you help me with the links (sources) in the "History" section of the article? There are no sources. Need to insert them. For translation into Russian. СтасС (talk) 15:34, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to create\write this article on Russian.--СтасС (talk) 16:05, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we have none because the person who wrote that part of the article did not do it properly. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:04, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

ОК.--СтасС (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@СтасС That article already exists in 20 languages. As you would expect, the French version has better sourcing for the history. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Redirect help, AfD and extant draft

Hi! This is re: User_talk:Star_Mississippi#Requesting_guidance.... @BhikhariInformer‬ closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klaudio Krasniqi as draftify only to realize Draft:Klaudio Krasniqi. Since @VampireKilla already merged the info (no issue-courtesy ping) I'd think we need to keep the redirect for attribution, but then there's R2. I wasn't sure how to proceed so told Bikhari I'd drop a note here. Appreciate any advice or handling. Thank you! Star Mississippi 18:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Not really sure, suppose since the content is the same could just delete the article for now and keep the current draft as is until such a time that it's ready to be restored? VampireKilla (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

windward fund

The wikipedia article on the Windward Fund is absolutely incorrect and is a politicalized farce. Windward Fund. ~2026-51790-22 (talk) 01:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's only two paragraphs. What do you object to? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 01:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

No review for several months

Hello, back in April I made a number of changes recommended by an editor from the wikipedia-en-help channel, however there doesn't seem to be any indication yet regarding whether the submission has been accepted or rejected, or whether there are additional changes requested. I was wondering if I still need to make any changes, or whether I need to get in touch with anyone to ensure that my submission gets reviewed. Thank you so much - any and all feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 02:47, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this in regards to Draft:Online Therapy Unit? If so, it doesn't look like it was ever resubmitted for review? DonIago (talk) 03:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not a qualified reviewer of articles, but it appears to me that this article would benefit greatly from a significant increase in references to mainstream public-facing journalism (if I can call it that - I think you probably know what I mean anyway). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:38, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

(Just a note that since this article was last reviewed, the reviewer was banned from Wikipedia on other matters, so unfortunately we can't ask them about it.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Aaron E. Philipp-Muller: your article was declined multiple times, but you never resubmitted it, so it has not been awaiting review. If you would like another review, you'll need to hit the "Resubmit" button. You'll know it was successful when a yellow template appears saying your draft is awaiting review. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 03:59, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I've hit the resubmit button and I'm now getting a yellow box that says "review waiting, please be patient". Hopefully it will now get reviewed! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

It did, and according to the latest review, the comments from previous reviews still stand. This means that whatever you changed before resubmitting, you failed to deal with any of the main points they made.

If journalists even in Regina and Saskatoon have had nothing major to say about this program (let alone journalists in other places), there is almost certainly no point in continuing to tinker with the irrelevant parts of the draft. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:42, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Robert Bosch, disambiguation

We have Robert Bosch, Robert Bosch Jr., Robert A. Bosch, and Bosch (company), whose full name is Robert Bosch GmbH, so would it be better to create a disambiguation page (Robert Bosch (disambiguation))? ~2026-51931-88 (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Weird display of text using "green" template

I was typing the following text:

*{{green|Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} Where did 30% come from?

However, it ended up rendering as this:

• {{{1}}} Where did 30% come from?

Where is the {{{1}}} coming from and how do I make it say the actual text I put? Shocksingularity (talk) 03:14, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: The problem is coming from the unescaped = you have in the template. It thinks there's a parameter called Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 being defined by a value of 0.3, −30%. You have to turn it into an escape character; use {{=}} where the = is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:22, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

OH that makes sense. I thought maybe it was the equal sign but I wasn't sure what to do about it. Shocksingularity (talk) 03:26, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: Another way is to explicitly number the parameter: {{green|1=Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} → Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%. This works because once the parser has detected the first equals sign, any others are treated literally. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Swindon Mechanics' Institute & Redundant Citations

I have carried out a major update of the Swindon Mechanics' Institute article. As a result references 3 is no longer cited in the article. How do I remove it from the list of references. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 06:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst It is used to reference a photo caption in the history section. Is that no longer correct? To remove it just edit the caption.  Courtesy link: Swindon Mechanics' Institute. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've actually corrected the URL for the citation rather than removing the reference. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 11:12, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I am Dwijendra Singh

I am Dwijendra Singh, a retired CSIR-CIMAP scientist. I have a conflict of interest because the proposed biography concerns me. I have collected independent published sources about my research, including coverage in New Scientist. I would appreciate guidance from an uninvolved volunteer editor on whether these sources are sufficient for a biography and how I should proceed through Articles for Creation. Entomology53 (talk) 10:40, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Entomology53, you should be aiming to show how published reliable sources about you meet one of the criteria at WP:ACADEMIC. Choose the one that you think fits you best and then, in this thread, specify exactly three sources which would back up that notability. Then we can advise further. Please also read WP:SCAM, now you have posted here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Deceased Wikipedian's talk page still being archived

Need some help at User talk:Gobonobo. He passed away (RIP), but his talk page is still being archived, including peoples' condolences. Could someone change it so his talk page no longer automatically archives? NP (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page is missing the "do not archive template" which exists on User talk:Struway2 - Special:Diff/1318229000. That's why the talk page is archiving condolences. I also have a question for the help desk - e.g. from the talk page I've linked, {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2076514728}}, what does the 2076514728 represent? Does it convert to 17:38, 20 October 2035 (UTC) which is displayed in the hidden comment? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

That would be a Unix timestamp, i. e. the number of seconds passed since 1 January 1970. And yes, it matches that date and time. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I now get what that number means thanks. I added the template I found on User:Iggy the Swan/sandbox to see how this works. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I think one could just comment out the MiszaBot config template to stop the archiving? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page may well still need to be archived, if notifications of deletion discussions or similar are posted there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:22, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Conversely, User talk:Ronhjones has a lot of discussions under the RIP section while having the DNAU in the right place. Not sure if that template affects just one section or every section currently visible. Might well be the latter as the page history shows before May 2020 that the bot archived discussions but not after. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Do not archive until only affects a single section. You can use it to "pin" a thread at the top of the page, for example. But the page you mentioned doesn't have any template that would enable archiving in the first place – presumably that was removed at some point (it does have an archive indexing bot template). -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:19, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Do I need a fresh start? Am I permitted to?

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Today I feel very shocked and upset after learning I am apparently in a bad standing here. I could go on about how painful this is to find out, I don't know what to do. I thought my editing history was good and I was working toward and had become a valuable contributor, this is really the first I've heard about anything like this. Therefore, I am at a loss at what to do. I am going to need a fresh start if I want hope at having any advanced permissions etc?

Am I in too bad a standing to get a fresh start?

Generally, what is my best cause of action?

I don't do anything, especially edit, in any sense of bad faith. I came here because I wanted help with what to do, but I also ask if there's a place you can get your standing reassessed here. Pinging @Pppery to show I'm not going over their head, just asking a question. Edlectro28 15:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: with a cursory look at User:Pppery's messages and your talk page, it doesn't look as though you're in bad standing. You just need some more experience before applying to permissions. You can have a fresh start if you really want to, but I'd advise you to just get some more experience with sourcing and the like before you apply to more advanced permissions. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 15:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought I had a pretty good amount of experience for this, I regularly do recent changes and written quite a few articles, but that's a separate discussion. Do you have any idea why they cited warnings as the reason if experience was likely the issue? Good to hear though. Edlectro28 15:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I assume they cited warnings as a direct tie to experience, assuming that getting frequent warnings about sourcing means you need experience with sourcing (which is usually true). ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I've never been warned about sourcing though. Can I request for a different admin to post their opinion Edlectro28 16:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It looks like they were also referring to times where your edits were reverted for lack of sourcing. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:16, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Understood. I wouldn't say I have a history of that at all, maybe a few examples when I had little experience, but that feels like cherry picking and ignoring all the good work I've done. Can I request someone else takes a look, is it worth it if so? Edlectro28 16:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can formally request another admin to review your request, but you could just ping an admin or ask them on their talk page. You might tell User:Pppery what you've said here or wait for them to respond here first. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:29, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I alerted Pppery of the question I asked there on their talk page, and pinged them here. Hopefully they will respond, I'm eager to find out what I should do Edlectro28 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't have anything more to say on the matter, other than my reply at PERM and that the claim that I've never been warned about sourcing is false. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah I can clarify about that. I warned someone for blanking, then they warned me for that with the unsourced tag. On the link you sent you can see we managed to resolve the issue, so I don’t see what the issue is? Edlectro28 16:35, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28, one editor to another, take on what experienced editor have said about some of the errors you have made. Every single editor on Wikipedia has made an error or two over time, I certainly have. There usually isn't a problem with making mistakes as long as you don't make the same mistakes going forward.

As far as permissions are concerned (in this case Pending Changes) then concentrate on ensuring you take your time assessing edits before reverting. One thing that might help you achieve this is spending time looking at pc to see if you would make the same decision as the person who addresses the change. Would you have accepted it or denied it etc. Take your time looking at padt changes and what your decision would have been. You're welcome to ignore this suggestion of course. Hope this helps, Knitsey (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I think it’s harsh I’m getting judged off of a couple warnings that got sorted out quickly. Edlectro28 16:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not harsh, it is just an assessment of one tiny aspect of your editing. It isn't personal. Permissions are an extra responsibility. I didn't get rollback the first time I requested it. I 'listened' to what was suggested, edited for a couple of months then applied again. Keep editing, understand the mistakes you might make and apply again later.

Later is subjective and there is no point rushing it or putting a timescale on reapplying. Knitsey (talk) 16:54, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Knitsey? I’m going to be honest with you, I’m so hurt by all this there’s no way I can come back on work on Wikipedia. I’ve obviously done something to upset Pppery who isn’t acting rationally, and if admins are finding issues with me for the fun of it, that just invalidates Wikipedia as anything worth contributing to. Edlectro28 16:57, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 - it's not personal. It could have been written in a nicer way but it's normal for editors to not yet meet criteria for various permissions. It's absolutely nothing worth getting upset over, though. I recommend taking a step back for a bit. qcne (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That reply along with the pigheaded comment is indicative of you not listening to the reasons behind the permission you asked for being denied. PC is not essential to being a productive editor. It is one tiny aspect of editing. People are denied permissions every day. It isn't saying you can never have PC, it is saying work on a few things first. This is life. Knitsey (talk) 17:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Well it doesn’t matter. I’m clearly not wanted here. I’m probably going to die soon anyway, so might as well just stop now. Edlectro28 17:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I know you said you don’t have anything more to say, but please, I urge you to reconsider. Your concerns have explanations I believe get me off the hook. Edlectro28 16:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The issue is that I don't trust you to review others edits when so many of your own recent edits have been negatively reviewed by others. And frankly I'm not impressed by you trying to defend yourself with a false claim. I don't have anything more to say on this matter -- this will be my final comment here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Your judgment is flawed and you’ve been very pig headed here. This is so incredibly demoralising that I cannot continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Edlectro28 16:49, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 It's not the end of the world to be denied an advanced editing permission. Just keep editing and gaining experience until you've demonstrated that you can use the privilege productively. Advanced editing privileges aren't rewards for good behaviour, they're—as the name suggests—additional privileges (and responsibilities) which allow you to perform some additional tasks; so to earn them, you have to demonstrate that you can be trusted with those additional responsibilities and that you'll carry them out well.

You don't need a fresh start. Just take the feedback you've been given, keep editing in good faith, and eventually if you feel the need to reapply for the permission then you'll have the experience to show that you can use it well. Athanelar (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I guess I would’ve appreciated if Pppery had chosen kinder words in their reply, though I’m burdened with empathy. Clearly they aren’t Edlectro28 17:01, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

• I agree with Pperry, he's just being direct with the user. It's a different thing that it is perceived as wholly negative rather than trying to wait further and seek advanced permissions in future.zglph^•talk• 17:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)
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Opening paragraph for this article needs revision

Hello! I noticed that this opening paragraph is written weirdly/incorrectly, it should probably be fixed: In the Name of Blossom. Nicereddy (talk) 21:21, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

You are free to do so yourself, or you may propose the specific changes you want with a formal edit request on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I reverted a recent edit that made no sense. Thank you for noticing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Adding a section

I added a section on the Sarah and Josiah Moore house where the Villisca killings occurred about every show featuring the house but I can't decide if they should go under the Villisca axe murders or not. ~2026-51931-91 (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems you probably need to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Some (maybe all?) of your material was based on unreliable sources, and that's probably why your edits were reverted. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Image gallery displaying above hatnotes – what?

I accessed Queen Mary University of London today from a mobile device, using the default appearance setting (Vector 2022). The particular page is probably not relevant, but I figured I'd provide it. At the very top of the article, below the title, there is a scrollable image gallery with all the pictures displayed later on in the article. I figured this was a Manual of Style/Layout error and went to correct it, but this image gallery doesn't show up in the source. Is this some new 'feature'? Is it a bug?

Thanks! —§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @LegesFundamentales!

Try seeing Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests to check if the bug was reported. (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:11, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Huh, seems it's somehing the WMF people are experimenting with. I think they're calling it the carousel media viewer setting? (Based on this: .)

I'm not sure I like how it overrides the standard layout...

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Maybe, but hopefully the bug you're experiencing will be fixed soon!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@LegesFundamentales: It's a deliberate feature called "Image carousel". You can disable it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter

Oh dear, I had worried it might be. How dreadful! (In my view, at least.) Is it WMF policy to irritate editors as much as possible by overriding the agreed-upon layout? Can't they keep their corporate crap on their side of the line and leave us, the ones who actually produce the contents of Wikipedia that attracts millions of people to the site, alone?

I suppose I had better see whether there's a campaign to resist this nonsensical change underway. Meanwhile, I'll toggle this beta feature off, using the link you handily provided.

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 19:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought they agreed to turn that off after an outcry a few months ago when they were beta testing it and people pointed out the problems with images being divorced from their contexts, and some unfortunate cropping on images featuring nudity. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, RFC from June, that was formally closed just a few days ago noting that it had been returned to Beta and "The WMF should provide its next update at an appropriate noticeboard. The WMF should give the community ample opportunity to run an RfC regarding the proposed launch version of the feature." ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That last quotation could have been fair and good, but it turned out unfair and bad. All that's needed is to remove the word "version", so that the RfC becomes "whether to launch" rather than "which version". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:52, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Danny Lane – obtaining wider review of sourcing and scope discussion

I have opened a sourcing and scope discussion at Talk:Danny Lane#Undisclosed paid-editing block: review of fourfold 2016 article expansion.

The editor responsible for the fourfold 2016 expansion has since been indefinitely blocked for undisclosed paid editing. An experienced editor has proposed reconstructing the article from the pre-expansion version while retaining subsequent well-sourced material, but the discussion has attracted little wider participation. I have also left a neutral notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts.

Before starting an RfC, I would be grateful for advice on the usual next step. Is an RfC appropriate here, or is there a better venue for obtaining broader uninvolved review of a sourcing, due-weight and article-scope question of this kind?

Thanks in advance. Aequoratlas (talk) 21:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you see any good reason to not just proceed as the experienced editor suggested, omitting all the other steps you've mentioned? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

What I mean is, you don't need an RfC to cut garbage out of an article. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:46, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

My hesitation was simply the age of the overwrite and the intervening good-faith edits. Given that an editor familiar with the article has already suggested a way of preserving those, I will take it back to the article talk page rather than add another layer of process. Much appreciated. ~~~~ Aequoratlas (talk) 22:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Age of the inappropriate edits is certainly unimportant. Your other concern IS important, so I'm glad it's being dealt with. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:09, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Noted with thanks. Aequoratlas (talk) 23:20, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello

Is there a tool which I can use to quickly revert edit just from seeing (user's) edit history or is there none? Rollback doesn't work when the edit is years old or other recent edits to the pages have been made. zglph^•talk• 11:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @Zglph!

You can take a look at Wikipedia:Tools and Wikipedia:Editing tools to see which tool suits you to quickly revert edits just from seeing the page history!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 12:33, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, the above reply was not helpful to me. Can anyone with their knowledge of tools help me out with the query? zglph^•talk• 16:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi again, @Zglph!

Try taking a look at Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools to see which tool you can use to revert an edit just from seeing the page history!

Again, happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I think they're looking for a tool that lets them revert from the user contributions page, not from the page history of an article. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

In that case WP:POPUPS is the tool for the job (and man others!) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:32, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Debagarh district

Special:Diff/1376983694

Kindly help me fix the links of Debagada district article. I couldn't be able to fix them by myself. Please help.

Thanks, Drpriyesh1 (talk) 07:46, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I have fixed three of the four errors; see the article history. The fourth source is not responding, so I cannot find the relevant data to include. If you can see the source, please mirror the changes I made, or ask here again. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:01, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! 🙏 Drpriyesh1 (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

User script for sentence case?

Is there any user script that would allow me to select text and automatically change its case (which would usually be to convert it from title to sentence case)? Thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 05:23, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't know. But I can imagine that if such a script existed and was highly reliable, it could just be applied automatically in all the places where you might want to use it ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

True. I don't imagine any such script would be totally reliable (it would still require manual review), but it would save some time and effort. Helpful Cat🐈 05:54, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I recently came across User:Epicgenius/capitalize, and it seems to do exactly what you're looking for. (CC: User:Epicgenius) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:22, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Amazing, thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 06:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I tried it and it doesn't seem to work - the links in the sidebar appear, but I click them and nothing happens. (Using the source editor in Firefox) Thanks for the recommendation, though! Helpful Cat🐈 06:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah! I just skimmed through the code; it won't work if you have syntax highlighting enabled (Preferences -> Editing -> Enable syntax highlighting for wikitext). (Epicgenius, if you want to add support for it, here's an example of how I did it for a similar script: special:diff/1325653048.) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for figuring that out. That helps because I can just temporarily disable syntax highlighting with the toolbar button and then the script works, without me having to go to preferences to disable it. Helpful Cat🐈 07:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@DVRTed, thanks for the heads up. Yeah, that's basically what happened here (same issue came up for User:Epicgenius/sortcategories.js). I'll see if I can fix it. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:40, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@DVRTed and @Helpful Cat, the capitalization script should work in the syntax highlighter now. Thanks for bringing up that issue. (As for the category sorting script, I'll work on that later...) – Epicgenius (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

It works now, thank you for the fix! Helpful Cat🐈 14:02, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I use a browser plug-in for this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/text-case-changer/ -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:03, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great too! Helpful Cat🐈 09:08, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Maps of Infobox

Could somebody provide the link for the list of available maps for the fields: ' | map = .. ' and ' | pushpin_map = .. ' in infoboxes like 'organization' or 'venue' etc..? I am able to find a map, but it only lists one example ie of Japan: Template:Location_map+/relief
--Gpkp (talk) 08:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

See Category:Location map modules and its subcategories.

The Japan example is at Module:Location map/data/Japan; you can search for all pages begining "Module:Location map/data" like this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:24, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

wow.. Thank you Pigsonthewing. --Gpkp (talk) 15:01, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Standards and guidelines for video game lists

Next discussion: WP:HD#Titles without Wikipedia page on lists.

Almost all of the video game lists have different layouts and info. See List of ZX Spectrum games, List of Nintendo Entertainment System games, List of Xbox 360 games (A–L) etc. Wouldn't it be more pleasant looking and professional if they were uniform? What are the guidelines for these lists? AngelSparkles (talk) 22:25, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The info is limited to what's been published in reliable sources; you can't add in things just because you know them.

As far as layout, they don't need to be the same, but you are definitely free to go to the Talk page of one article and say "I think this other article is laid out better, for [these reasons], and I think we should change this one to be more like it." TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:39, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for replying @TooManyFingers. In my opnion it would be a lot cleaner if they all followed the same guidelines. Like if somebody decides to make a new list for an upcoming console he's free to do whatever he wants with it? That doesn't make sense. Maybe with AI we can make then all uniform. Changing them manually will take a very long time now. AngelSparkles (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

We do not permit the use of AI to edit Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

This isn't something that rises to the level of needing codification in the WP:MOS. There are no deadlines, so if people agree that your proposed format is better, they can choose to redo it in the new layout. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Tenryuu @TooManyFingers Hm ok. Are videogames that have no Wikipedia page allowed on lists? The page List of ZX Spectrum games is full of them. AngelSparkles (talk) 15:12, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Sonny with a Chance - Other media editing

I need help with editing the Other media section of the Sonny with a Chance article. This link says Cite error: The named reference "dvdbigbreak" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). And see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sonny_with_a_Chance#DVD_releases ~2026-52284-22 (talk) 22:06, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

You added a reference name that already existed but added different content. I've turned it back into a refname reference only, because the reference you added is slightly less complete (the other had an archive URL, etc.). - Purplewowies (talk) 23:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

References

where is the my articles section

where is the my articles section G236 (talk) 00:57, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@G236: You will probably want to look at your watchlist. Articles and other pages you edit go onto your watchlist by default (you can change these settings in Preferences → Watchlist). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:06, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Are these reliäble sources?

Due to browser limitations, I can’t load these websites to check; are the sources posted here reliäble and are they sufficient to support the requested edit? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) 23:56, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shadestar474: my first thought is that if an editor is blocked from editing articles, making edit requests for controversial topics is probably a bad idea. I am unsure what kind of editing would be a good idea.

My second thought is to check Talk:List of people named in the Epstein files, which gives four criteria for inclusion of names. The other editor has not shown that the four criteria are met. TSventon (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Alright, thank you; just checking. Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) 02:21, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I looked at a couple of these, not knowing really what to expect from some Epstein thing, and in one of them there was a huge list of people. I immediately thought - without having known about any of what TSventon has written - "Looking at these papers without any criteria can't possibly be right". So ... yeah. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:48, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Paid editing offer

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Today, I received an email offering to create a Wikipedia draft/article for me. I uploaded screenshots of the email to Wikimedia Commons so that I could show the Wikipedia community the offer as evidence.

The files are:

• File:Paid editing offer.jpg
• File:Recived mail from wiki user.jpg

The email appears to promote the services of Wikipedia Publishers. The website advertises Wikipedia page development, draft creation and submission, content updates, restoration and dispute resolution, and ongoing monitoring. It also lists paid Wikipedia packages.Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:15, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

please instead send this to the email address discussed at WP:REPORTPAID. Please read the scam warning. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

It should probably be noted that User:Sophiabennett declares a CoI with regard to at least some of the articles listed on her user page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:23, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

As you may know it's not uncommon at all for scammers to impersonate legitimate editors. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Meaning I should pay him and get the work done correct??? Wiki allowed that? Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Again, please read the scam warning. We generally advise people never to pay money for someone to edit Wikipedia. However, the choice is ultimately yours. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Well well well.... let see thank you.... Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Andy,

I am not the same person mentioned in attachements. Thanks Sophiabennett (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

References

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Jacques Fath / Maison Jacques Fath : transparency

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Hello,

I am reaching out for guidance regarding the existing Wikipedia page about Jacques Fath the couturier, but also about the possible creation of a separate page dedicated to Maison Jacques Fath.

For transparency, I currently work with the company developing Maison Jacques Fath. Before making any edits or creating a new page, I would like to make sure that I follow Wikipedia’s rules correctly, particularly regarding conflicts of interest and neutrality.

I have a few questions:

1. Official website : A link to the official Jacques Fath website appears to have been removed from the existing Jacques Fath page. I would like to understand why and under what circumstances an official website may be included.

1. Images : Some photographs related to Jacques Fath were also removed in the past. How can I find the exact reasons for their removal, and what would be required to properly use photographs from the Maison’s archives?

1. Maison Jacques Fath page : We are considering creating a separate page about Maison Jacques Fath as a fashion house. How can we determine whether it meets Wikipedia’s notability requirements, and would it be preferable to prepare a draft for review first before posting it ?

Finally, given my professional connection to Maison Jacques Fath, I would appreciate guidance on the most transparent and appropriate way for me to contribute. My intention is to fully respect Wikipedia’s rules regarding neutrality, independent sources and conflicts of interest.

Thank you very much for your guidance.

Yulia

Yulia Pod (talk) 10:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Need help creating disambiguation page

I think I used the templates wrong. Could anybody help me out?

VoteSafe
VoteSafe (disambiguation)

I think I got the order the wrong way around? Though I am not entirely sure. I want to add {{distinguish|...}} on both America PAC and Tom Ridge. I was thinking of, instead of doing so inline, creating sub headings titled VoteSafe and VoteSafe.org, for the already existing paragraphs on both pages. Ybllaw (talk) 09:30, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the help thus far. I also went ahead and created the sections (using the other uses template instead of the distinguish) at both pages' VoteSafe paragraphs. I have not yet updated the disambiguation page to refer to these new sections directly, as I don't know if the edit will be approved and thus persist. Ybllaw (talk) 10:24, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

As there was no reverting thus far, I've also updated the links now. Ybllaw (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2026 (UTC)