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List of Victims?
[edit]Is there any consensus for keeping the list of victims on this page? I'd say that (if at all) it's better suited for the page on the attacks themselves, not the one for Elliot. It feels a bit inappropriate given it reads as a memorial (see WP:MEMORIAL). Especially given the extra info on them other than their birth date/age. It's generally pretty rare for us to list them, especially if the victims lack their own particular notability/articles.
⚠︎ ArkadenBoden ⚠︎ (talk) 12:34, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- How is it a memorial when it just mentions when they were born and what they majored in at school? This makes no sense at all, but if people agree that they should only be mentioned in the attacks page I will remove it from the Rodger article. Carnival of Lights (talk) 21:57, 18 August 2026 (UTC)
- My concern with a "memorial" was mostly with the sources of the section being focused on memorials/obituaries/honoring the specific victims. Information on victims is generally, in most sources or otherwise, written as memorial or in honor of them (not that this may have been your intent. Victims themselves are also non-notable. The victims, individually, are not covered enough to have their own articles. Since Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, victims' names and majors may not be necessary for encyclopedic value. In my opinion, the names and majors don't particularly add much to the article, especially not Elliot's himself. Two women and four men works. I'm willing to try finding consensus for the Isla Vista attacks article itself, but here I doubt it's suitable.
- (I hope I don't sound mean or abrasive. I tend to be a bit blunt with the way I communicate and I don't mean to be rude in any way. Just want this article to be at its best)
- Much love, rock on!
- ⚠︎ ArkadenBoden ⚠︎ (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2026
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Change klling to killing
3rd paragraph after signature, 5th or 6th sentence, I think. Kcanfixit (talk) 22:44, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
Done Thanks for spotting the typo! The person who loves reading (talk) 22:50, 21 August 2026 (UTC)
Request
[edit]requesting edit that "born in London",the link is changed to London region and not the city of London since he is born in Lambeth, Greater London. Shernop (talk) 00:57, 22 August 2026 (UTC)
Removing Victims Section
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MajorImprovements Stop removing the attacks section without consensus. Zero Contradictions provided the same reason, which is very, very suspicious, and your account is only four days old. Carnival of Lights (talk) 00:16, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- I don't know who that person is. And I removed the section discussing the victims, since it is not appropriate to be included on the biography of Rodger. It should only be included on Isla Vista attacks. Let's see what other editors think. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:20, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- User:Ponyo, you have previously blocked this person for similar reasons. Please investigate this editor. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:23, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- I wasn't blocked for this; it was for uploading and adding low-quality photos. Get your facts right. Carnival of Lights (talk) 00:30, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- And now you're making low-quality edits and insulting other editors. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Edit: I was mistaken. I thought this editor removed the whole attack page, but only removed the victims part. But we already had a discussion above taking place, and you decided to remove it anyway. Also, how is it "insulting" and "low-quality edits" when wanting other editors for their opinions? This usually happens when we can't agree on something. Carnival of Lights (talk) 00:37, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Like I said, let's see what other editors think—since there seems to be a disagreement between the two of us. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:38, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- This account has been confirmed as a sockpuppet of PageTheEditor. Carnival of Lights (talk) 01:17, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Like I said, let's see what other editors think—since there seems to be a disagreement between the two of us. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:38, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Edit: I was mistaken. I thought this editor removed the whole attack page, but only removed the victims part. But we already had a discussion above taking place, and you decided to remove it anyway. Also, how is it "insulting" and "low-quality edits" when wanting other editors for their opinions? This usually happens when we can't agree on something. Carnival of Lights (talk) 00:37, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- And now you're making low-quality edits and insulting other editors. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:35, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- I wasn't blocked for this; it was for uploading and adding low-quality photos. Get your facts right. Carnival of Lights (talk) 00:30, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- User:Ponyo, you have previously blocked this person for similar reasons. Please investigate this editor. MajorImprovements (talk) 00:23, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2026
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I'd like to add some info to the "Legacy" Section.
In 2015, one year after Elliot Rodger's death, an account by the name of "ElliotSupremeLady" frequented through 4chan and tumblr claiming to have fallen in love with Rodger--and that if she had met him in time, they would have been together. ElliotSupremeLady (or ESL) is one year younger that Rodger, and happens to be the kind of woman he idolized, attractive with blonde hair blue eyes. She has an online following and often posts videos on Tiktok paying tribute to her husband, wearing his clothes, astrology, and that they're "twin flames" and soulmates. ElliotSupremeLady has been vocal on twitter, tiktok and tumblr about her condemnation of Rodger's actions:
"It wasn’t true crime that led me to Elliot. It was actually a countdown video about YouTubers who had passed away. That’s when I saw him. He was the most beautiful man I’d ever seen. When I found out who he was, my heart dropped. But the more I learned about him as a person, the more I fell for him. I fell in love with him for who he was, not for what happened. Honestly, I don’t even like to hear about it. I just wish I could have been with him in life, before all of this, when things were different. Unfortunately, Elliot is attached to that whole topic, reduced to his crimes. But that's not how I see him... I understand what happened, but I don’t study it. That’s not what I do. I love Elliot, but that love doesn’t mean I don’t recognize the tragedy of what happened. People died, and that should never be forgotten... I would’ve loved him before any of this, and I truly wish none of it happened. The truth is, this is just the only way I know him. And I really hate that he's linked to all this true crime and incel stuff. I try to separate him, and myself, from it as much as possible. Because if I had been with him right now, none of this would even be in my mind."[1]
ElliotSupremeLady has been devoted to Elliot since 2016, and is still devoted to him to this day. [2] YazzieWikkie (talk) 02:45, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
Not done: No claims of significance (in Wikipedia's meaning) AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/report any mistakes here) 04:50, 15 September 2026 (UTC)
GA review
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Nominator: Carnival of Lights (talk · contribs) 18:48, 16 August 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 08:16, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
Hi I'll review this. Ping me if I don't do this within the next five-ish days. 750h+ 08:16, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
Prose
[edit]- lead
- Rodger's attacks have often been praised by incels around the world. ==> "Incels around the world have often praised Rodger's attacks." (active voice)
- early life
- Just wondering, would it be better to combine the sections between Early life and High school? Maybe into one section titled "Early life".
- Peter, a British national,[5] is a filmmaker who has directed television commercials. I think it's best to change "is" to was" and "has" to "had", I feel that the information could possibly become outdated
- His mother is Malaysian Chinese and has also worked in the film industry remove "has"
- where he enjoyed an affluent and privileged childhood do we need both "affluent" and "privileged"?
- Li Chin left her work in health care to take care of Rodger and soon bore a daughter, Rodger's sister. you don't need both "daughter" and "Rodger's sister".
- who later moved with his family ==> "who later moved in with his family"
- Rodger's parents divorced when "divorced" doesn't need to be linked (MOS:OVERLINK)
- Rodger's father married Moroccan ==> "his father married Moroccan"
- Rodger expressed shock at how quickly his father remarried ==> "Rodger was shocked at how quickly his father remarried"
- A trip to Disneyland around age five brought him to tears due to the crowds. this seems pretty trivial, especially given you mention him being "overwhelmed by social gatherings" in the previous sentence
- Rodger had a difficult relationship with his stepmother Akaaboune we don't need both "stepmother" and "Akaaboune"
- middle years
- Many of Rodger's social connections in school were initiated by his parents, other students, or facilitated by the parents of his peers ==> "Many of Rodger's social connections at school were initiated by his parents or other students, or facilitated by the parents of his peers"
- Rodger claimed one of his bullies was a blonde girl, which he stated contributed to the development of his misogynistic attitudes.[27] Rodger's grades declined, his social activity decreased,[18][28] and he immersed himself in video games such as World of Warcraft at his parents' houses and cybercafés.[25][29] Rodger's stepmother became concerned with his unwillingness to socialize and made him stop playing his video games, causing tensions between the two to escalate.[23] "Rodger" begins three consecutive sentences. I think you may want to use pronouns to do so.
- During this time, his stepmother became pregnant and gave birth to a son, Rodger's younger half-brother.[31] as above, you don't need both "a son" and "Rodger's younger half-brother"
- During his time at both schools, he reported experiencing severe bullying by other students ==> "During his time at both schools, he experienced severe bullying by other students"
- later life
- He held his parents responsible for his lack of wealth, blaming his mother for not marrying a wealthier man for his benefit and his father for using his money to produce Oh My God ==> "He held his parents responsible for his lack of wealth: he blamed his mother for not marrying a wealthier man and his father for using his money to produce Oh My God"
- Rodger's father referred him to his friend Karl Champley for construction work, and Rodger worked in construction for a time. ==> "His father referred him to his friend Karl Champley for construction work, where Rodger worked for some time."
- Rodger agreed to the plan after watching the ==> "He agreed to the plan after watching the"
The more I read into this article, the more it seems a bit too detailed. What I've been correcting above has largely been grammar and all that, but what I've seen about the article is that every little thing is mentioned (e.g. "he was angered when one of his roommate's Black friends said he had lost his virginity at the age of 13.", "Rodger noticed a Hispanic man seated with a blonde woman and became jealous after seeing them kiss."). I also realise that a detail a reviewer from the previous article highlighted relating to criterion 3b (it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail) has not been addressed (here). I think the suggestions above I've given should be taken into account, but I may have to fail this for now. 750h+ 16:49, 2 October 2026 (UTC)
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