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"The gunmen then left the scene, shouting (according to witnesses), "We have avenged the Prophet Muhammad. We have killed Charlie Hebdo!"[66][67][62][61]"
Why "according to witnesses"? We have video. Please remove this part in brackets.
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The article states that Coco Rey’s daughter was with her when the attackers came to Charlie Hebdo. I have read several articles in English and French — interviews with Coco — that state she was on her way to pick up her daughter from daycare, and her daughter was not with her at the time. The included source (French) for that sentence says the same. 149.71.62.174 (talk) 17:28, 22 March 2025 (UTC)Reply
We shouldn't use unreliable sources in Wikipedia, and particularly not ones found to be generally unreliable in a broad general RFC. Is there a reason the source is so apposite here that it would be a failure of NPOV not to include it? Doesn't seem to be. You could take the question for a spin at WP:RSN. so as to avoid risking an invalid WP:LOCALCONSENSUS - David Gerard (talk) 23:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
@David O. Johnson I think it's an absolutely ridiculous removal. The citation was there simply to state that the publication in question reposted the cartoons, which is true. The citation isn't used for making any other factual claim. The same is true of Gawker, which is listed right beside it.
Both WP:SELFSOURCE and WP:NEWSOPED state that self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves. FreeBeacon and Gawker reposted the cartoons, and that is the only thing being asserted - not any editorial commentary or reporting. This is a straightforward case of verifying that a source published something, not assessing the truth of the underlying material. Removing the Gawker and Free Beacon citations on the basis of general reliability completely misunderstands the context in which they're being used.
"Some English-language media outlets republished the cartoons on their websites in the hours following the shootings. Prominent examples included Bloomberg News, The Huffington Post, The Daily Beast, Gawker, Vox, and The Washington Free Beacon."
On an slightly unrelated note, we had consensus to keep those citations in a footer note. They shouldn't have been removed from the note and re-inserted directly into the text again. It's once again very hard to read. They should be put back.
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In the first paragraph of "Background" section, change "The magazine was published from 1969 to 1981 and has been again from 1992 on.[7]" to
"The magazine was first published from 1969 to 1981, when it ceased publication amid declining readership.[7] It resumed publication in 1992 under new editor-in-chief Philippe Val, with many of the original staff returning.[8] It has been published continuously since."
I completely agree- I was reading this page before pulling up the general Charlie Hebdo page, and somewhere along the way, I accidentally switched back to this one without realizing it. So, I thought the magazine's general page did not have that info. I would still suggest to change the wording though from "The magazine was published from 1969 to 1981 and has been again from 1992 on.[7]" to "First published in 1969, the magazine ran until 1981 and has been active again since 1992.[7]"
↑ Visier, Claire. "Charlie Hebdo: A Brief History." European Institute, Istanbul Bilgi University, 7 Jan. 2015, eu.bilgi.edu.tr/media/files/French_Brief_2.pdf.
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Valorrr (talk) 04:11, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
The redirect حميد مراد has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 August 17 § حميد مراد until a consensus is reached. Thepharoah17 (talk) 04:41, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
Not done: I don't think the Background section needs to go into this level of detail about the magazine's publishing history. Day Creature (talk) 05:02, 11 July 2026 (UTC)