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broken cite patent link

The first patent mentioned in this sentence,

"The purpose was to develop wireless headsets, according to two inventions by Johan Ullman, SE 8902098-6, issued 12 June 1989 and SE 9202239, issued 24 July 1992."

Has a broken link. Possibly related to the dash in the number? Although, I cannot find the patent using the website's search feature either.

Vsst (talk) 07:40, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

I think we could sensibly remove this section, honestly. I don't know what it adds to the article save to mention that a specific person (who, upon looking up his credentials, appears to be an anaesthesiologist but is claiming to have invented Bluetooth?) thought it could be used for wireless communications.

Doing some additional digging, it seems he was perhaps involved in the management chain for this development, rather than being involved with the technical work itself. Standard-g-enjoyer (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Hacking

It would be good to add small segments for bluebugging, bluesmacking and bluesnarfing as was already done for bluejacking ~2026-40504-98 (talk) 13:18, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Invention citations

Not clear to me what the following adds to the document: "The purpose was to develop wireless headsets, according to two inventions by Johan Ullman, SE 8902098-6, issued 12 June 1989 and SE 9202239, issued 24 July 1992."

Seem suspiciously like a self-insert from the person referenced to increase their online visibility. Standard-g-enjoyer (talk) 08:37, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Proposed clarification of Ericsson patent work in the History section

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I have a conflict of interest: I am Torbjörn Gärdenfors, named as an inventor in the patent records below. I am therefore requesting that independent editors assess this proposal rather than editing the article directly.

The current history gives a concise account of Ericsson’s early Bluetooth development. I suggest that editors consider whether it would be useful to add a narrowly sourced sentence distinguishing two related Ericsson patent records from the broader programme history:

• US application 08/616,054, filed 14 March 1996 and later published as US 5,913,163, is titled Integrated local communication system and lists Torbjörn Gärdenfors as inventor. It describes locally positioned communication devices, at least one local interface module that converts a non-local communication signal into a local one, and a single preselected protocol common to the local links. Its examples include a mobile station, a wireless headset and a data terminal. Patent record
• US application 08/803,392, filed 20 February 1997 and later published as US 6,633,550, is titled Radio transceiver on a chip and lists Karl Håkan Torbjörn Johansson Gärdenfors, Sven Mattisson and Jacobus Cornelis Haartsen as inventors. Its claims include time-division duplex operation, frequency hopping and binary Gaussian-shaped frequency-shift keying. Patent record

I can also provide photographs of two Ericsson Mobile Communications award certificates: “95 års Bästa Förslag” (“Best Proposal of 1995”), presented in June 1996 to Torbjörn Johansson for “Wireless speech communication system”; and “96 års Bästa Förslag” (“Best Proposal of 1996”), presented in June 1997 to Sven Mattisson, Jaap Haartsen and Torbjörn Gärdenfors for “One Chip Radio.” Gärdenfors identifies the former proposal with the invention later filed as the Integrated local communication system patent family, and the latter with the one-chip-radio work. Because this connection is presently supported by his account and privately held award material, rather than an independent published source, I offer it as evidence for editors to evaluate rather than as a requested encyclopaedic claim.

Possible neutral wording, subject to editorial assessment:

Related Ericsson patent work included the 1996 Integrated local communication system patent family, naming Torbjörn Gärdenfors as inventor. The patent described nearby devices communicating through a common local protocol, including a mobile station, wireless headset and data terminal, with a local interface translating non-local communication signals. A 1997 Radio transceiver on a chip patent filing named Gärdenfors, Sven Mattisson and Jaap Haartsen as inventors.

I am **not** asking editors to state that any one person solely invented Bluetooth, or to treat patent inventorship alone as proof of the whole history of the standard. Ericsson’s published history describes a broader effort involving Nils Rydbeck, Tord Wingren, Jaap Haartsen, Sven Mattisson and a team at Ericsson, while an EPO historical file describes Haartsen and the team’s early work. Ericsson history EPO inventor file

For technical precision, the proposed material should be read as a layered history, not as a claim that the 1996 patent alone specifies the Bluetooth piconet. The 1996 patent describes a system architecture of nearby devices using a common local protocol; the 1997 patent documents radio features including TDD, hopping and binary Gaussian-shaped FSK. A Bluetooth BR/EDR piconet is more specific: it is defined by a Central, Peripherals, a shared physical channel, a Central-derived clock and hopping pattern, paging and defined channel access. Bluetooth Core Architecture Bluetooth Baseband

Please assess whether the proposed addition is due weight for this article and whether stronger independent secondary sourcing is needed before any change. Thank you. TORBJORNGARDENFORS (talk) 10:58, 13 September 2026 (UTC)

Don't use AI for comments, and don't use it for articles either. Gnomingstuff (talk) 03:58, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

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