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[edit]Gender of rivers
[edit]Do rivers have a gender in English? I am referring especially to River Severn#Literary and musical allusions where the Nile and the Severn seem to be male. --Pp.paul.4 (talk) 11:32, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- The Thames is sometimes characterized as 'Old Father Thames', of course. Not a reliable source, but there's an interesting blog on the subject of rivers and gender at JezGrove (talk) 11:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- See also Ol' Man River. But such genders are limited to the literary/poetic register; in everyday speech, rivers are impersonal and neuter (it). StevenJ81 (talk) 15:06, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I don't think rivers are gendered in English in any formal grammatical sense. They're certainly not morphologically marked. But we do have e.g. Old man river for the Mississippi. There's also Queen_of_the_Mississippi_(ship), which sort of implies that the Mississippi is a populace or a country that can have a queen. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:07, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Contrast Anna Livia, female personification of the River Liffey in Dublin. jnestorius(talk) 17:04, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- The Danube does. In Germany and Austria she is female, in Croatia and Serbia he is male. --Rôtkæppchen68 11:45, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Freckles in Swahili
[edit]Does Swahili have a word for "freckles"? Khemehekis (talk) 22:58, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- This page on sw.wikipedia and this forum suggest "madoa ya kizungu"
- "doa" = "spot", "madoa" is plural (see Swahili noun classes) >> "spots of the aimless wanderers"? See mzungu. ---Sluzzelin talk 23:34, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- IsiZulu is not closely related to kiSwahili within the Bantu languages, but it does use a word (icasazi/amacashazi) of the same noun class as Swahili, and the word does mean spot as well as freckle. μηδείς (talk) 01:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, Sluzzelin! Khemehekis (talk) 02:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)