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Dsitrict to District

In about 20 articles a supplied reference title appears as: "Dhanbad Dsitrict Map." as seen in article "Tetulmari". Can someone do what is done in edits of multiple articles edits of the same intent?~2026-32542-29 (talk) 01:27, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

I have fixed ten out of twenty. In this case the source is spelled correctly. TSventon (talk) 11:16, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

I fixed a few of that typo in other contexts. Current list of current articles that have it. DMacks (talk) 06:38, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

 Done. There are some file-descriptions on commons that someone should fix when they get a chance. DMacks (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Draft declined

While my piece was being rejected yesterday - I also got another message with 4 other music pages that invited me to submit the content there - but today when I am looking for them - I'm no longer able to find them. I thought I had just hit another tab, but apparently not. How do I find those 4 invites again? Patriciacunliffe (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

See the section above where you have already raised this. I can still find Draft:Joey Alkes, but it is unsuitable for Wikipedia, see Your first article. ♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:17, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

Please note, Patriciacunliffe: your Draft has not been "Rejected", it has been "Declined": the distinction is important.

"Declined" means "Your draft has not reached all the required standards yet [likely with further explanations and comments of how it hasn't]. Please improve as suggested and submit again."

It is quite usual for drafts to go through several rounds of submissions, declines, improvements and resubmissions. So long as genuine improvements are evident each time, this is entirely acceptable.

"Rejected" means "This is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article at this time and no amount of effort can make it so. Please do not resubmit as this will waste your time and ours."

The usual reason for unsuitability is that the subject is not "Notable" in the sense that Wikipedia jargonises that word (or, at least, because the Draft has not demonstrated Notability with suitably cited sources). This may be because the subject has simply not been published about in suitable sources; because what has (if anything) been published about them is routine and unremarkable; or because they may potentially, one day, be published about sufficiently but as yet it is simply "Too soon".

The fact that your Draft has been Declined and not Rejected indicates that the reviewer(s) think that, with further work, it can be made acceptable.

Please take on board that it is insufficient merely to list a subject's activities and published works. A Wikipedia article needs to show, by citing sources, that those activities and works have been recognised as significant, and written about reasonably extensively (winning significant awards also helps): see in particular Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals. Unfortunately, some professions, though valuable, are less often written about because their activities are somewhat "backroom" (most record label executives certainly fall into this category), and it is not at all unusual for, for example, a particular book to be 'Notable' (and be the subject of a Wikipedia article) but its author not (and not be).

Hope this helps; keep trying! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 18:29, 24 July 2026 (UTC)

@Patriciacunliffe Phrases like "Before immersing himself completely into the music industry, ..." are not "encyclopedic". David10244 (talk) 04:59, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

... and the reason is that these show-off-style words are editorial choices, not quoted from a reliable third-party source. Any words that might help make the subject (or their products, their experiences, etc) seem special, interesting, unique, elevated, or any other good thing, must come from reliable and specifically-identified third parties. Please see MOS:PUFFERY. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:09, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Apparently blocked user - who isn't blocked

Looking at the page history of Periyar, the editor of the last entry is crossed through, as if the user is blocked. Looking at their block log, they were blocked for 24 hours over 2 years ago, but are not currently blocked. What is going wrong? - Arjayay (talk) 12:20, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

They're globally blocked (and whitelisted here). —Cryptic 13:28, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

The global block was dated 24 May 2026, and they are still editing, presumably because the Whitewashing states "exempt global block on homewiki". The fact that their edits are struck though led me to waste time investigating a perfectly good edit; can the striking-through be turned off, to avoid other editors wasting their time? - Arjayay (talk) 13:50, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I do not see any strike through of edits in the page history. Might you have some optional gadget or CSS modification enabled that does this? older ≠ wiser 13:56, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

When I toggle

User preferences -> Gadgets -> ("Appearance" section) -> Strike out usernames that have been blocked

... this problem toggles on and off along with it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 14:59, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks TooManyFingers, but that is not a solution to my specific problem. I would like usernames who are blocked on en.wikipedia, to be struck, but usernames who are not blocked on en.wikipedia, not to be struck, even if they are blocked elsewhere. Looks like I may have to accept the current confusion. Thanks all. - Arjayay (talk) 15:14, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I want the same as you, and I only intended to pinpoint the (apparent) source of the problem, not suggest that you should turn off this useful feature. They can't fix it unless they know where it is. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 15:20, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

@Arjayay: You can post the case to MediaWiki talk:Gadget-markblocked.js#Edit JS adding check for global blocks. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:43, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Is it true that some usernames who are not blocked on en.wikipedia are struck? Because users who are blocked globally are blocked on en.wikipedia. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:47, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

This person has a global block with a whitelisted exception added. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:46, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

I believe that I've seen that expired TAs are struck through, even if they've never been blocked. I guess the rationale is that the TA is no longer usable, but I find it rather confusing. CodeTalker (talk) 19:27, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

How to reach extended confirmed

Don't waste time with socks The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

How do I reach extended confirmed? Schohei (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

You just need to work hard and edit a lot! You get there when you have 500 edits and 30 days of activity, if I remember correctly. Help out where you can! Edit! Get to a point where not only Wikipedia can trust you to edit about contentious topics, but where you are able to trust yourself. Sincerely, WikipediholicRat (talk) 16:47, 25 July 2026 (UTC).

See WP:ECREXPLAIN. It requires at least 500 edits to the English Wikipedia and after 30 days have passed since the account's first edit. This is quite steep, but it is needed on some high profile articles where disruptive users have bypassed WP:SILVERLOCK which is semi-protection. ♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:50, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Minor edits not hidden from watchlist

I've ticked "Hide minor edits from the watchlist" under Preferences, Watchlist, but am still seeing a lot of minor edits, clearly labelled with their m. Have I misunderstood this, is there a different definition of "minor edit", or what is happening here? Can someone please shed some light. I enquired first at WP:VP(T) but my post has just been archived unanswered after 6 days. PamD 17:08, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

@PamD I normally don't hide minor edits but as an experiment I have just gone to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist and ticked the relevant box, then "saved". Sure enough, the minor edits were then gone when I returned to Special:Watchlist. Can you check that your preferences are set up correctly and report back, please. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:17, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull I've not hidden them in the past but have recently got bored of seeing so many watchlist entries for tweaking deprecated infobox parameters or making refinements to categories so decided that probably very few babies would be thrown out with the bathwater if I suppressed the minor edits. But I can't get it to work. I've just checked, again, that there's a tick beside "Hide minor edits from the watchlist", but still edits such as this, labelled as minor, are showing on the watchlist. I experimented with unticking it, reloaded watchlist, no difference, so then re-ticked it, still no difference.

(Why's that pond on my watchlist? Because I stub-sorted it many years ago, and created a talk page with project banners, before we had the chance to watchlist for a fixed term: it got added to my watchlist forever by default because I created the talk page. I might remove it, but not right now as I've used it as this example.) Here's another example from my watchlist. PamD 20:18, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

@PamD Well, that is strange. I watchlisted Ellis Pond and immediately saw that minor edit on my watchlist. Then I ticked "Hide minor edits from the watchlist", saved, and returned to my watchlist and that edit was, correctly, no longer visible. So the issue seems to be specific to your account, which I can't explain! Your best hope is WP:VPT, linking this thread for context. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:31, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Resolved at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#2nd request: Minor edits showing up on watchlist though I've ticked "Hide minor edits". There was a saved watchlist filter. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:03, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter Thanks. I've followed this up with a note at Wikipedia talk:Customizing watchlists#Information on watchlist filters?, as I don't see where there is any information about watchlist filters! PamD 10:59, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Sam Kerr

I have just created Sam Kerr (disambiguation). Could someone please update and fix the hatnote at Sam Kerr? I can't do it myself because the page is protected. Thanks in advance. ~2026-41495-42 (talk) 19:17, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for creating that. Editors might be interested in the related Talk:Sam Kerr#Requested move 25 July 2026 discussion. DMacks (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Site not found

I can't access my page. can you tell me what has happened to it please...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Frypan13/sandbox Frypan13 (talk) 19:18, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Frypan13 - As it clearly states on that page "Abandoned user subpage of non-contributor – to retrieve it, see WP:REFUND/U6" - Arjayay (talk) 19:23, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Keep TA contributions on new acct?

I created an account because I got sick of losing the ability to easily track what edits I've made, and was hoping to start with the current history of my last TA. Am I out of luck as far as preserving those contributions go? FineIllDoIt (talk) 21:25, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately yes. Edits are not transferrable, neither TA to TA nor TA to account. DMacks (talk) 21:27, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

alright, thanks FineIllDoIt (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

One option would be to list those TA on your account's userpage. You can easily find what you've done if you want to revisit pre-account edits or pages of interest and others can appreciate your edit history as a person even if it is not attributed within the software itself. However, that opens the door to many more people being able to know your IP address, which is a major concern for many people and negates one of the advantages of having an actual account. DMacks (talk) 21:31, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Problem / problems

Is it correct for problem to redirect to problem solving and problems to problem (disambiguation)? Shouldn't they both point to the same article? ~2026-41609-22 (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Oh, but it's worse than that. Problem (disambiguation) starts "A problem is a difficulty which may be resolved by problem solving." (If my bike has a puncture, this is more or less of a problem, but calling it "a difficulty which may be resolved by problem solving" is ... odd.) -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 08:11, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

"Resolved by solving" also needs a look by the Committee Against Tautologically Redundant Phrasing in Saying the Same Thing Over Again By Repeating It After the First Time Prevention Committee. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 09:27, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Why don't we go even further? A problem is an issue which presents a difficulty, and it may be resolved by a solution determined through problem solving. Athanelar (talk) 05:39, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

"If you're not part of the solution, maybe it's already saturated." TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:04, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Is The Weather Channel website reliable?

I was reading the page on Tropical cyclones in 2026 and saw a section was empty. While I was about to add something to it, I looked for references to back up my info. Is the Weather Channel a good source for these sorts of things? I asked since it may fall under the primary sources rule, being a Weather related company. TheNerdy Parakeet (talk) 01:38, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, TheNerdyParakeet. There is no problem with the fact that the Weather Channel focuses on weather. After all, the Wall Street Journal focuses on business and is an excellent source for business coverage. When the Weather Channel is reporting in real time about today's weather, it is a primary source. When they run a long form documentary about some past severe hurricane, tornado or flood, then that is a secondary source, which is preferable. Primary sources can be used for basic facts but secondary sources are best for analysis and drawing conclusions. Cullen328 (talk) 07:11, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Make a donation

i was trying to make a donation Kathiawoola (talk) 04:06, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Kathiawoola. The Wikimedia Foundation handles all financial donations. Please read this page for complete details. Cullen328 (talk) 07:14, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Coding correctness on

Is this correct? Lifted from the article 12th Illinois Infantry Regiment: "*Lieutenant Colonel Henry Van Sellars – mustered out with the regiment. "~2026-32542-29 (talk) 04:49, 26 July 2026 (UTC) ~2026-32542-29 (talk) 04:49, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

References

For some reason I can't access this link , but as a general rule genealogy websites are not suitable as sources. This needs some reliable secondary sourcing.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:19, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

That information may or may not be correct. It is referenced to RootsWeb, which consists of user generated content. Such websites do not meet Wikipedia's Reliable source standards. That does not mean that the specific content is incorrect. It just needs a better source. Cullen328 (talk) 07:22, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

That discussion still does not address the quality of the reference presentation. Anyways Gen site use is original research rather than secondary affirmation from authorities generally recognized as acceptable.~2026-32542-29 (talk) 16:39, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

infobox optional parameter

How can I make some parameter of infobox to be optional? Igor Kercsa (talk) 07:21, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

You need to provide some kind of default value in case the value is absent. You can do that using syntax like this: {{{parameter-name|default-value}}}, replacing both those with the actual things you want.
So for example, if you want your name parameter to default to the page title, you could do {{{name|{{PAGENAME}}}}}, or if you wanted your age parameter to just not appear if it is absent, you could do {{{age|}}}, which just replaces it with nothing if it is missing. {{GearsDatapacks|talk|contribs|in solidarity}} 08:02, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Minor Edits

Is changing tone to be more objective considered a minor edit? DarkSoulCat (talk) 08:11, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Please see WP:MINOR; changing tone would not be a minor edit, as tone can be disputed. A minor edit is something that cannot possibly be disputed, like fixing spelling or grammar. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

A rule of thumb is, if you aren't sure if it's minor, it's not. Much better to leave something unmarked than mark a controversial edit as minor. (Even one word can be highly controversial: saw a badly labeled one-word edit a while back where the word was "not"!) M kuhner (talk) 21:01, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

I see you already have replies, but I'm going to drop one more note in here. From WP:MINOR:

A minor edit requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute.

So if it could be of dispute, it's not minor. Tone is included there. However, if you're changing a comma splice to a semicolon, for example, then it likely is minor. If you want to err on the side of caution, don't mark it as minor. Hope this helps. --ABx11 (she/they) 04:14, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

It should be said that essentially the only thing marking your edit as "minor" does is allow people to easily filter it out when searching through edit history, other than that it serves no particular crucial function. I can't remember the last time I marked an edit as minor; don't worry too much about it. Athanelar (talk) 05:38, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Wiki page for myself a sports related

How can I submit something about myself MYW6 (talk) 09:55, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

@MYW6 Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Please see our guide on autobiographies (articles about yourself) at WP:AUTOBIO. ⠀⠀ .n 10:06, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

The very short answer is- you shouldn't, it's strongly discouraged.

The longer answer is described at the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves- or what they want the world to know about themselves. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. "Significant coverage" means critical analysis and commentary, not just the mere description of the person's activities. This is usually very, very difficult for someone to do about themselves, as it requires setting aside what one knows about themselves and only writing based on what others have said. Most people cannot do this, and few succeed. Are you the rare person who can? Possibly, but the odds are against it.

Please also see how an article is not necessarily desirable.

Nevertheless, if you wish to proceed anyway, you may submit a draft via the Article Wizard. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Elastix

I asked for input at Talk:Elastix about which disambiguator should be used for the article, but I haven't received any replies. Does anyone have any suggestions? ~2026-41619-62 (talk) 15:34, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-41619-62 Are you talking about Talk:Elastix#Requested_move_24_July_2026? If so, please let the discussion finish. --ABx11 (she/they) 04:12, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

I think there was no discussion at all, until they came here and mentioned it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:08, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Ah understood, thanks! --ABx11 (she/they) 06:50, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Accidentally uploaded the same photo twice

On the page I'm working on (C.E. Poverman), I somehow uploaded the same author photo twice by accident. How do I eliminate one of them or does an editor have to do that? Thanks. Hedman1 (talk) 16:21, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Your question makes sense, but it means "... or does an administrator have to do that?" - because "editor" is what you are! :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:21, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Hedman1.

You only seem to have uploaded one photo ever, c:File:C.E. Poverman color head shot.jpg, so I'm not sure what you mean.

I wonder if you are looking at your contributions in Commons c:Special:Contributions/Hedman1, and noticing two lines with that filename? One was you uploading it, and the second was you adding an English label. ColinFine (talk) 20:31, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. What I'm referring to is that there is a box in the lower right hand corner of the photo frame (white area below the photo). If you click on that, two of the same photo appear. I minimized one of the photos as for some reason it appeared in the middle of the text of the article as well as in the photo box. Hedman1 (talk) 21:13, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong, @Hedman1. When I click on the icon in the frame, I see the File page File:C.E. Poverman - Cropped Street Shot.jpg: it has a large copy of the photo, as expected. There's a small copy further down in the "File History" section, recording what you uploaded. ColinFine (talk) 22:07, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Okay. I'll leave it alone then. Just looked strange to me. Thanks for your input. Hedman1 (talk) 04:53, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

why is "restore this version" less dangerous than rollback?

Can anyone point to a discussion that explains why rollback is a user right that must be applied for, but "restore this version," which is potentially even more destructive--and does not allow preview either, as I've found to my cost several times--is available for everyone? I feel there must be something here that I don't understand, and better learn about before applying for rollback.

(I work on LLM text removal, so I end up doing things like this a lot. Have borked more than a few infoboxes, and gotten my ears pinned back for it. Because of the lack of preview, "restore this version" is a really good way to introduce errors you won't see in a quick scan of the actual text; you have to make a mock edit and use preview. Learned the hard way.) M kuhner (talk) 20:48, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Rollback is a one-click function, restore this version is two clicks, one to start the process and one to complete it. It is essentially a normal edit, unlike rollback. 331dot (talk) 21:38, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

'Restore this version' also prompts for an edit-summary, for you to explain what you're doing and why. WP:ROLLBACK is designed for edits that really don't need an edit-summary, so it requires a bit more trust that the editor is doing the right thing. DMacks (talk) 22:12, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

Also, @M kuhner, you technically can preview "Restore this version" by first clicking the timestamp of the version in question, which will take you to view the revision of the page as of that time. Granted this doesn't give you a full diff view compared to the current version, but it's not nothing. Athanelar (talk) 05:35, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you all, that answers my question. I will try Athanelar's tip to avoid further "You broke the infobox!" issues. M kuhner (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Payment

I paid $20 on my visa card. You don't acknowledge ~2026-41619-84 (talk) 21:25, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

If you are referring to a donation you have made to the Wikimedia Foundation, you will need to make an inquiry with them directly; we editors have nothing to do with the donation process. Please email donate(at)wikimedia.org. 331dot (talk) 21:37, 26 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-41619-84: If it's not about a donation then I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 7.2 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 08:52, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

cancle my account not interested your @~2026-41619-84 ~2026-41902-61 (talk) 15:30, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-41902-61: If you refer to a Wikipedia user account then they cannot be deleted or cancelled. See more at Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. If you refer to donations to the Wikimedia Foundation which runs Wikipedia then donations are not tied to user accounts. https://wikimediafoundation.org/give/donor-frequently-asked-questions/ may have information you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Taysom Hill

Reference help requested. Can you help me? I tried to add a reference to Taysom Hill but the citation button somehow didn't add it correctly. I got a notice from a bot about it and would like to fix the error.

Thanks, In solidarity Dafootballguy Want to talk? 00:14, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@Dafootballguy I'd ask at WP:VPT if you want more technical help. I don't know how it works, but it is powered by Zotero, which can be finicky like this at times as it tries to "guess" stuff like the title, source, etc. of the article based on webpage info. --ABx11 (she/they) 04:10, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

There is nothing to do with Zotero or any other metadata detail here. It's just a syntax error in the call to the Wikipedia citation-formatter template. Fixed. DMacks (talk) 11:15, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Image copyright help

Hi, I want to know if I can use the images on this page: [1] They have diagrams that I'd like to use in articles. The problem is that they claim copyright of the images in their ToU. IANAL, but aren't images produced by government organizations automatically public domain? --ABx11 (she/they) 04:06, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

It's true of the US Federal Government, but for others (whether sub-national, as here, or of course foreign) it may or may not be, and I gather has to be determined on a case-by-case basis. I think the fact that copyright is here explicitly claimed is a strong indicator: commercial companies (such as Picture Libraries, in my personal experience) may overstate their copyright claims, but an organisation such as TriMet seems unlikely to.

Wikipedia:Public domain status of official US government works is apparently inactive, but may be of some help. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 05:03, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks; another question. How do I see if images are already in Commons? TriMet released these hundreds of images under CC-BY SA 4.0: https://trimet.org/photos/ --ABx11 (she/they) 05:21, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Commons has a robust category tree. If you know what the subject is, you can start somewhere and then drill down/up/sideways depending how general the topic is and how many variations of files exist for it. Every image has a title and (ideally) a description, among which is usually at least one keyword that can be found by searching. DMacks (talk) 12:20, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

30K links pointing to same domain?

I simply cannot understand how Wikipedia allows this level of spam on its website. A few links to the same domain might be understandable, but over 30,000 links pointing to a single domain is beyond belief. It's not as if the website is genuine or contains real content. If you check it, nearly every post is fake and redirects users to the same page. I can provide further details upon request. MackJohnson79 (talk) 10:07, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@MackJohnson79: Many websites have more links. Just post the domain if you actully want us to look at it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:41, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Here is domain findarticles(dot)com, pointing out from several top pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil Most of them having 1-5 links from such specific page. MackJohnson79 (talk) 12:19, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@MackJohnson79: The links worked when they were added. FindArticles was once a good resource. Wikipedia:Bot requests has discussed what to do some times.[2] Wikipedia:Link rot is a big problem affecting thousands of websites. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Until we know what domain is involved (and I am intrigued to find out), it's difficult to say much, but bear in mind that we have 7.2+ million Articles (and links can also be in Article Talk pages and I suppose User pages and their Talk pages), so 30,000 links is equivalent to a good deal less than than one link per 200 articles or 400 pages. Link rot could be involved. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 12:15, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Yah, but certain others are intrigued to find out whether your browser is working. Or not. MinorProphet (talk) 13:37, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Not yet, because I haven't yet summoned up the courage to try the suggested possible remedies in case everything goes even further wrong: I'll report once I have. In the meantime I'm using and slowly configuring Opera, and contemplating buying a complete new IT setup, from soup to nuts. Thanks for asking. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.105} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 00:39, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Best of luck. Whatever, I would try to avoid Win 11 like the plague. It sounds considerably worse than Vista. If you can coax Opera to work for you, fine. It should even be possible to import FF settings... MinorProphet (talk) 01:18, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

All the useful-looking links I tried redirect to the generic /news page: a list of irrelevant feature articles. We should probably mark the citations with |url-status=usurped, adding a link to an archive site where available and not already present. This looks like a job for WP:URLREQ. Certes (talk) 13:06, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Or specifically WP:JUDI * Pppery * _{in solidarity} 00:41, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I didn't see any gambling ads. Although unhelpful, I think it's a semi-good-faith redirect. It's rather like when I visit a reputable news site trying to check a reference which has been deleted or moved and instead it shows me today's headlines, effectively making their home page double up as a 404 page. Certes (talk) 08:41, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

How to put a pin or arrow in a map

Aucanquilcha uses File:Txu-oclc-224571178-sf19-07.jpg as a map; is there a way to put a pin or arrow in the file so that it shows where the volcano actually is, other than by modifying the image? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 16:04, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

You could use {{location map}} but that would require creating a new map definition. On the bright side, that would make the map usable in similar articles. Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps shows the template in use, with an example which is simpler than the template's own documentation. Certes (talk) 16:37, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: {{Location mark}} is simpler for a single use. Neither method will keep the mark if you click the image to see a larger version. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:21, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Andrey Rublev

The Russian icon painter Andrei Rublev is sometimes spelled Andrey Rublev in some sources. Given that this alternative spelling is identical to the title of the tennis player's article, do you think a simple hatnote is sufficient, or would it be preferable to move the tennis player's article to Andrey Rublev (tennis player) to avoid potential confusion? ~2026-41904-71 (talk) 16:25, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

The tennis player gets ten times more page views than the painter, so it's probably safe to leave him as the primary topic for the Y spelling and just keep the hatnote. Certes (talk) 16:40, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Given the extensive ignorance of most English speakers about written Russian and other Slavic languages, why not go for Andrei Rublyov (tennis player), since it approximately accords with the pronunciation of the existing articles about the iconist Andrei Rublyov and the soldier Semyon Budyonny? I hope that the ghost of Semen Budenny doesn't take offence. If only written 'ë 'was transliterated as yo, rather than imagining that Cyrillic 'ë' = English 'e' = 'є', which it doesn't: but hey, the unmusical and uninterested speakers of the so-callled English language. MinorProphet (talk) 17:06, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @MinorProphet. The key question is not how the name is pronounced, or how it should logically be transliterated, but how it appears in the majority of English-language sources (per WP:COMMONNAME).

It is completely bonkers that Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky is written in English with that "T" in front of his name (because French), but that is how his name has been written in English for well over a century, and it is not up to Wikipedia to try and change consensus. ColinFine (talk) 08:29, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Hi, Colin. I completely agree with you, but you incidentally prove my point exactly. The composer's name is indeed correctly written Pyotr, because Пётр - with the Cyrillic 'ë' - is indeed pronounced exactly thus, and not Peter or 'Petr' as English transcriptions had it and, I suggest, for considerably less than a century:

• Tchaikovsky, Peter Ilich Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians 2nd Edition (1904) Vol. V, p. 33.
• Tchaikovsky, Peter Ilich Grove, 3rd edition (1934) Vol. V, p. 278
• Tchaikovsky, Peter (Piotr) Ilyich Grove, 5th edition (1954) Vol. 8, p. 327
• Tschaïkovsky, Peter Ilich Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition (1911), Vol. 27, p. 348
• Tschaikovsky, Peter Ilich, EB 14th Edition (1929), Volume 22, p. 525
• Tchaikovsky, Peter Ilich, EB 15th Edition, (1974) (repr. 2005), Volume 11, p. 592
• Tchaikovsky, Peter Ilich. 'Music Received' Music Library Association, Vol. 54, No. 2, December 1997, p. 586 (subscription needed, via Wikipedia Library)
• There's always Tchaikovsky Research eg Bibliography (1970) - randomly chosen but not investigated - I could go on...

Therefore, as you say, Rublev. Q.E.D. Maybe the rest of the world will get it in 100 years' time: but I bet Tchaikovsky's music will outlast the evanescent fame of some bloke named Rublyov who rushed around trying to hit a bouncy ball. See - eventually - Budyonny as above, despite Budenny, which is only comparatively recent. I expect my ghost will be haunting these pages. MinorProphet (talk) 13:13, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I once had a professor in a music theory course who would go on rants about Tchaikovsky and how it should be Chaĭkovskiĭ. Thankfully, it was a general course for an elective that interested me; I think if it had been a specialized course on Russian composers, I would have gone mad just trying to spell the professor's preferred names, and would have had to drop the course. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 15:07, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Florida congressional district error needs to be addressed

Hello! I do not have any clue as to where I should tell you all about this, so I decided to post here because it is going to be read faster. Anyways, I have noticed that every Florida congressional district has an error involving the map files. It seems there is supposed to be an interactive map file for each one but the files which are being referenced by the page do not (or possibly no longer) exist. I would like help relating to this situation by either creating the files or removing all instances to contact them. Thanks! Γ+2 (talk) 19:08, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@GammaPlus2: It's a recent general bug discussed in phab:T433008. You can just wait for the bug to be fixed. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:45, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

I understand. Thanks for the information! Γ+2 (talk) 20:50, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

watchlist

hi is it possible for me to keep a list of my favourite wikipedia pages other than the watchlist? Joe0472 (talk) 19:38, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

You could manually create a page like User:Joe0472/Favorites and add articles to it. Or even just add them to your user page. 331dot (talk) 20:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

@Joe0472: See Help:Saved pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:30, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

How to force tables to occupy the entire width of the page?

I'm trying to create a table containing lists with {{divcol}} inside, but whenever all cells have that template, instead of showing the lists arranged in multiple columns, the table remains only one column wide, because there is nothing "pushing" the table to be wider. Here is an example of what I mean. How do I force the table to be wider, thus allowing the divcol template to actually work? — Snoteleks (talk) 20:33, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

If no-one answers soon, I would try The Village Pump, and mention that your query is being forwarded from the Help Desk, otherwise you will be roundly scolded for asking twice. MinorProphet (talk) 21:17, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Better still, post a short mention of the issue on the 'pump, pointing to this discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:24, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I'm not good at this, but is it right that you have |{{divcol}} (with a pipe character at the beginning)? Doesn't this try to place the columns inside of one cell? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:29, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Yes, that is the intention, I want the list in a single cell — Snoteleks (talk) 21:42, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

Is there more? Eventually you may tell us what you really seek ;) MinorProphet (talk) 01:35, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

What do you mean? — Snoteleks (talk) 10:10, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@Snoteleks: Try this.

A	B
one two three four five six seven eight nine	one two three four five six seven eight nine

My experience is that this can be hard to get a satisfactory presentation because you don't know the display width yet have to give a list-column width in absolute units (such as em; but never px). Bazza 7 (talk) 08:57, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@Bazza 7 The thing is, I specifically want them in the same cell because on mobile I want it to be possible to only see one column, whereas on desktop I want to see several columns, depending on how wide the available window is. — Snoteleks (talk) 10:10, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@Snoteleks: You seem to be falling into the trap which many editors find: tables are for tabulated data, not for formatting presentation. You are trying to adjust and influence screen layout as if you're working with printed media on paper. The device or media – laptop, desktop, phone browser, phone app, paper – is irrelevant.

So my table above contains four pieces of information, arranged in a header row (the letters A and B) and a data row. There are two columns in each row; each cell in the data row has a single piece of data which is a list of nine items.

I've looked at your table: you seem to be using it to format, not to arrange data. your data is not really tabulated at all, its a set of nested lists, and this is what you should be using. My table might be better as lists as well; they can be columnised, which I've done:

• A
  • one
  • two
  • three
  • four
  • five
  • six
  • seven
  • eight
  • nine

• B
  • one
  • two
  • three
  • four
  • five
  • six
  • seven
  • eight
  • nine

There are other tools specifically for classifications which you can use to help. From your test page, Template:Automatic taxobox/doc may be a good direction to go.

(Incidentally, in your table you are attempting to use spaces (which are data) to influence layout. Don't.) Bazza 7 (talk) 11:28, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I appreciate you showing me columnised lists within non-columnised lists, I did not think that was possible. However you're making several assumptions. 1) Device is not irrelevant, as the entire point of me trying to make tables is due to how this format of tables is not mobile friendly and I am trying new styles that are mobile friendly after some complaints/suggestions from other editors. 2) The point of me using tables is indeed the formatting, as it allows the reader to collapse large chunks of text that they may not be interested in; something that is not possible in printed paper. Plenty of examples at Help:Table are meant to show advanced formatting, not just tabulated data. 3) I am already aware of taxoboxes, and are part of the taxobox task force; they are meant for different usages. 4) Again, yes I am using spaces to influence formatting. That is the point of all of this. I would never think a reader could be put off by an empty space on a cell that would otherwise be also empty. Thanks for the input but it's simply not what I asked for (see title of the topic). — Snoteleks (talk) 12:31, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@Snoteleks: Well ok. It wasn't clear what you asked for and you declined another another editor's request to do clarify. Your title ("How to force tables to occupy the entire width of the page?") is easily answered: add style="width=100%" to the starting markup of the wikitable. But that does not seem to be what you are asking for. So I had to second guess.

I disagree with most of what you have said.

1) Device should be irrelevant. Your content should be device independent; if you are old enough to remember the browser wars you will know the mess that can be got into when content has to be provided with regard to the device it will be read on.

2) Tables are not for formatting. Tables are for organizing data. Styling is for formatting. Styling includes how content will be positioned on different sized devices and orientation. Tables are not for formatting (again). Help:Table is a complete mess, and contains many contradictions of newer styling policies, especially WP:ACCESSIBILITY. Tables are not the only collapsible objects.

3) Good.

4) Anyone using multiple spaces to attempt to determine the position and layout of content should be using a typewriter.

Your problems are a result of wikimarkup restricting what presentation options are available. Newer CSS flex and grid functionality allow is a bit sparse in wikimarkup: {{Gridlist}}, {{Flex list}}, category:List_formatting_and_function_templates. Bazza 7 (talk) 15:23, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@Bazza 7 Sorry, I guess I did not explain myself properly. I was indeed looking for the easy answer of using the style parameter to modify the width, I haven't found a detailed guide on the style parameter yet so I had no idea that was an option. That was exactly what I was asking for, I was simply detailing the reason why I wanted it. As for our disagreements, I think I misworded it. I wanted my content to be device independent, i.e., to be formatted in such a way that all devices can read it, both mobile and desktop, with columns adapting to the size of the screen. The issue I brought up was because I was not able to get more than 1 column in desktop. But I was able to thanks to the style="width" parameter. Thanks for offering me more options.

I also did not decline the other editor's request to clarify. Asking "what do you mean?" is not declining. I clarified as much as I was asked for, and Is there more? Eventually you may tell us what you really seek ;) is a strange way to ask for clarification. What should there be more of? How is what I "really" seek different from what I'm telling you I'm seeking? What is "eventually" supposed to mean here, as if I'm hiding something? Even to such a strange response I did not decline anything, I just wanted to know what they meant. — Snoteleks (talk) 09:29, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I think I see the confusion. I think part of the point of what you're responding to is that you've begun by specifying the tools you want to use to do this job, and that your insistence on certain tools may be obscuring what the job actually is. It's possible that restating your original request in a way that never mentions any tools and only describes what you want to accomplish could make better answers available. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 11:27, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Template:Div col may not be indented, stripped div errors tracked syntax error. Adjusted the above. Also removed indents from within divcol, interferes with the template's function/display. Please also see Template:Div_col#Limitation, as that is why it is now showing as a vertical list. Thank you. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:48, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

@Snoteleks: Please don't take this as a personal attack, although you probably will. You seem to have a pre-conceived conception of what _should_ be possible on Wikipedia, given certain tools, but it may be - sadly - essentially wrong. You seem to be unable to state your specific aims, although a number of editors have been attempting to guide you through the maze of data assembly and formatting options/templates/tables that is Wikipedia. It is essential to be able to state your aims clearly and without prevarication. Sometimes it may help to place a space at the beginning of a line, and then you can use text-type formatting to demonstrate what you are hoping to achieve, e.g.

One Two Three
One
    Two
        Three

There are a large number of formatting options available on WP: show us what you really want, and our knowledgable editors should be able to help you. Please understand that WP appears differently on desktop and mobile versions. This is because mobile is a relative newcomer, and it is an ongoing challenge to co-ordinate their appearance. We understand your frustration. MinorProphet (talk) 08:25, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

@MinorProphet Don't worry, I already found a satisfying solution. Not sure what made you assume all these things about me (that I would take anything as a personal attack, or that I was incapable of stating my objective, or that I don't understand that WP appears differently on each version, which is the whole point of this request), but all I wanted was a columnised list inside a table that keeps a variable number of columns depending on the width of the page, so one on mobile and more on desktop. I tried to get ahead of this miscommunication by giving more detail from the beginning, but like @TooManyFingers already pointed out, it obscured others from seeing what I was asking for; a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either way, my issue is now resolved thanks to changing the width parameter. I also found an easier solution with {{Collapse top}} and an indented list instead of a table.

I would just like to say, without any intention of offense, that a number of editors have been attempting to guide you through the maze of data assembly and formatting options/templates/tables only holds true for one response, which pointed me to changing the "style="width" parameter and to templates I could be interested in. All the external links to random blogs, and responses philosophizing about whether I should even want this in the first place or about the concepts of formatting vs data organizing, were unhelpful and out-of-scope. It was especially ironic how I was pointed to MOS:ACCESSIBILITY when my request specifically wants comply with MOS:RESOL. Not sure about other editors, but when I want something to "look" a certain way, it's because I want it to "look" better for all potential readers, not just me. There is nothing inherently more logical about preferring a large table with 7 columns full of text over a columnised list if it means mobile readers will struggle with the first option because of how stretched the text gets. I only started this thread because of input from other editors.

Anyway, thanks for the effort. — Snoteleks (talk) 08:59, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Accessing "old" gen AI response before a Wikipedia article was published?

Odd question here - I'm a high school teacher, and created the Wikipedia page Capitol Crawl to use as a demonstration for my students (also because it well exceeds the notability guidelines and should've had its own page ages ago!). Many popular websites say or imply that the Capitol Crawl was a major catalyst for the passage of the ADA, but I found in my research that the reality is more nuanced, so the page reflects that.

When I ask Chat GPT about the impact of the Capitol Crawl, its response closely mirrors what I wrote, and cites the Wikipedia page as its source. I'm confident that these responses would have been different before I created the article, and I'd love to use this as an example for my students of the limits of AI and how AI models get their information. But sadly, I didn't think of it until now! Is there a way I can see what an AI model like Chat GPT would have said about this topic before the article was written? If it's relevant, the article was created on May 10th. MissRedwood (talk) 22:50, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

This is a good idea but unfortunately not possible- for that to be possible, you’d have to edit ChatGPT’s data repository which of course can’t be done. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 22:54, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

I'm curious whether we could bring the whole AI thing to a grinding halt just by asking how it would have answered differently at different specific times in the past. :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:58, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't think that would provide an accurate answer though because it would still be factoring in current information even if you're asking it to ignore it. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 03:42, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

My point was that ignoring and not ignoring the same information at the same time could confuse the poor thing. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:02, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@MissRedwood That's an interesting project. I have also noticed that new articles get quickly picked up by LLMs. This has also been reported for non-Wikipedia sources, e.g.. Could be a fun thing to look at next time someone develops an article on an otherwise obscure topic. Best, CMD (talk) 01:54, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Exceedingly poor/misdirected advice The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Obviously you will have to start all over again with an entirely new subject, and don't ever refer to Capitol Crawl again, or this post, don't even use the same account: literally wipe the slate clean. See Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing. You can hide this entire conversation as well, no-one will care, we get it, otherwise, y'know... MinorProphet (talk) 01:54, 28 July 2026 (UTC) <!-- Just put these hidden marks around everything -->

Why are you recommending this user to vanish, am I missing something? Sarsenet•he/they•(talk) 02:52, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

You would need to use a model trained before you published the article and disallow the model from searching but it's totally possible. I can probably get what you're looking for once I'm back on desktop. ^MetalBreaks_AndBends (One for all) 02:06, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't think that would work? Even if you used an old model it would still have access to current information. You'd have to use an old dataset and I don't believe that's possible. I don't think old datasets are even stored. Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 03:41, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaking your terminology, the model is the dataset. The only ways to give a model access to new information are either giving it access to the internet, or training (in part or in full) a new model. LittlePuppers (talk) 04:07, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Models dont get access to info intrinsically. You need to hook up search tools. ^MetalBreaks_AndBends (One for all) 19:37, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Just got around to it. This is gpt-5.4 mini's answer bc for some reason open router hates me.

GPT-5.4-mini slopping it up

**The impact of the Capitol Crawl on March 12, 1990** was that it became a **highly visible, emotionally powerful protest** that helped push disability rights into the national spotlight. Activists crawling up the steps of the U.S. Capitol dramatized the barriers faced by people with disabilities and showed how inaccessible public spaces were.
Its broader impact included:

- **Building public pressure** for disability rights legislation
- **Helping speed support for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)**, which was passed later in 1990
- **Turning accessibility from an abstract policy issue into a vivid moral and political issue**
- Becoming an **iconic moment in the disability rights movement**

So, in short: the Capitol Crawl was not the only reason the ADA passed, but it was a **pivotal symbolic action** that helped galvanize momentum for the law.

I currently have a cold, so i apologize if anything here is majorly broken. ^MetalBreaks_AndBends (One for all) 19:46, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Whoa, thanks! Would you mind explaining how you accessed this? MissRedwood (talk) 18:40, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Body weight

Is it really appropriate for Body weight to redirect to Human body weight? Wouldn't it make more sense to have a broader article at "body weight" covering the concept across all animals, with "human body weight" as the main article for the human-specific aspects? "Body weight" is a generic scientific term and is not inherently restricted to humans. ~2026-41659-08 (talk) 00:26, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

You are probably right, but this requires some volunteer to first create the more general article, which I suspect would be no small task.

'Human body weight' would probably still be the most frequent intended topic for searches on "Body weight", so the best option might be to add to the current hat-note on it (which appears after redirection),

"(Redirected from Body weight)"

to add something like:

". . . : for the more general topic, see [[New article title]]".

Others may differ.

{The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 00:58, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I agree especially with the idea that redirects should go to the topics that people commonly intend, and should not go to a "science surprise" that is technically true but not what they were looking for. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 01:54, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Ref error

Why is Talbotiella showing as having a reference error? I've checked the code (using source editor), and it looks correct. Weirdly it looks fine in the preview. Is this a known bug? EmergentAnarchy (talk) 08:55, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Ignore me i think i fixed it EmergentAnarchy (talk) 09:01, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I can't remove the AfD tag I added by mistake

I wanted to nominate an article for deletion and I added an AfD tag with the number one by mistake. I didn't know that because it was already nominated by deletion a new discussion wasn't opened. I tried to revert my edit and a filter didn't allow me to. What should I do? Koubaki (talk) 09:02, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I've removed the tag.

In future, you should make deletion nominations with WP:TWINKLE. It handles the nomination process with one click. AfD nominations are otherwise far too complicated to try to do by hand. Athanelar (talk) 09:06, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

That's good advice but this report does indicate a problem. I was editing for ages before I discovered Twinkle, and I wasted far too many hours fiddling about with complex procedures, sometimes getting it wrong. Experienced editors don't see how intricate these operations are. Either the processes need to be simplified or Twinkle needs to be better advertised (or both). Certes (talk) 09:22, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

In its defense, WP:AFDHOWTO says right away nominate the first article using one of the methods below, preferably the § Twinkle method, Athanelar (talk) 09:45, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Koubaki (talk) 09:08, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Captcha on login blank

Can’t log in, since I need to enter the text from a captcha, but it is solid white so I can’t read the text/there is no text. Refreshing doesn’t help ~2026-41730-78 (talk) 10:48, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

You could try a different browser or internet connection, but this is best raised at WP:VPT.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:20, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-41730-78: If you use Dark at Special:MobileOptions then try Light. You could also try "Desktop view" at the bottom of pages. If you use a dark mode on your device then try to disable it or change to light mode. Try another Wikimedia wiki like meta:. If you log in there and come here then you should still be logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:51, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Wikibreaks?

What is a common practice regarding Wikibreaks? Is there a significant number of people who believe that Wikibreaks should be done, even if one feels energetic? I'm asking about customs, not Wikipedia policy. I was thinking of maybe taking a 15 day or 30 day break, though 30 days seems a little long. Vanguard10 (talk) 17:57, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

The common practice is as follows:

1. It's good that you know about this. In my opinion, more people should know.

2. Take the concept - i.e. there is such a thing as taking a break from Wikipedia, and you or anyone can do that - and use it in the way that makes sense in your circumstances.

I think that's basically it.

Opinion section:

In my opinion, the length of break you decide to take probably has a lot to do with why you're thinking of taking it. The break is supposed to help something, so it should be enough to have a good chance of helping that thing. And all of that is your private business, unless you choose to discuss it. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:14, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I would also say - just my opinion - that if I was taking one, I would hope to avoid announcing it and just do it. But that might not always work, I don't know. Whatever works for each person. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 18:20, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

I didn't want others to think I lack interest in Wikipedia, like not showing up for work. On the other hand, most people don't really care if you're editing or not on a particular day.

Sometimes, there are active discussions so that would be a poor time to take a Wikibreak.

Thank you for your comments. I might take a 15 day break from August 1 to 15 or August 15-31. Or maybe not. Vanguard10 (talk) 01:19, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

The last time I took a wikibreak it was because I caught myself getting ready to react WAY negatively to something that didn't warrant that reaction. It was due to some off-wiki stuff too, but that made me sit down and go "oh. I should take a break. and enforce it." I was only gone for about a week IIRC, but it was a useful week. (Previous wikibreaks were more casual and didn't involve the enforcer, but I was afraid if I even looked at Wikipedia in any useful sense while breaking it'd ruin the whole reason I took the break. But I can guarantee no one will believe you don't have interest--I was literally in an active discussion when I sat there and basically said out loud I was gonna go on wikibreak (because while I caught myself with the bad negativity, I didn't fully stop myself from vocalizing part of the feeling). No one batted an eye or cared. I probably wouldn't recommend doing it while you're actively involved in something unless you need to, but IMO anyone should feel free to take a wikibreak whenever they want 99% of the time. - Purplewowies (talk) 01:44, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

There are reasons why I edit sparingly aside from during downtime at work (especially on weekends), and one reason is because I don't want to get too invested in Wikipedia and lose my perspective. That said, I wouldn't make too much of a "business" of taking a Wikibreak. If it's a short amount of time, nobody's going to be upset if you just disappear for a week or so unless you're in the middle of a dispute or such, and you can always slap Template:Wikibreak on your Talk page or such, with or without specifying a return date. DonIago (talk) 02:15, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I think it varies a lot by person. Some can spend a lot of time on Wikipedia for years and not have any problems (that I know of). Some know that they need to be intentional about taking breaks, or life circumstances force them to. Personally, I find that I drift closer to and farther away from Wikipedia—if you look at my edit history you'll see a couple months where I edit a lot, then a gradual slowdown, then a few months where I barely edit at all, and then a sudden increase, and so on. LittlePuppers (talk) 03:28, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Not have any problems? It is not that hard to find conflict and unreasonable people in Wikipedia. One place and, by far, not the most contentious, is where some Wikiproject impose restrictions on articles where if the restriction is followed, goes against Wikipedia policy. I saw a former Arb Com member who said so, though I observed it before seeing that comment. Two examples come to mind. One is where the Wikiproject rejects secondary sources. Only a primary source (like from the company) is accepted. Another example prohibits a major variant from appearing in a table, even if there are many reliable sources. So "can spend a lot of time on Wikipedia for years and not have any problems" is unusual if one is very observant. Some things are not worth debate. Make a comment then go away and let the bullies win. That is not a battleground mentality but an astute observation. It's like living in a Communist country. Just bow your head and move on. Vanguard10 (talk) 16:38, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Not that you can be here a long time and not notice any problems (though I don't recall anything quite to the extent you note in my time here, I'm sure it exists), and not that you can be here for a long time and never have a disagreement; but yes, I would assert that there are editors (I can think of a few off the top of my head) who have been here for many years and remain well-respected and don't seem to be burnt out. We're talking about whether to take a break for your own benefit—not hoping that taking a break will magically make human nature go away. LittlePuppers (talk) 16:56, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Enrico Tazzoli (priest)

Hi, this is the second time I have requested the move of Enrico Tazzoli (priest) (see the talk page), but I still have not received any response. I have already notified the relevant WikiProjects about the discussion. Is there any other way to get feedback? ~2026-41785-65 (talk) 18:09, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

For info: a previous discussion had resulted in 'No consensus', but had only two opposed comments. Two users have joined the new discussion on the Talk page since the above was posted.

It seems that this is not a topic that excites much interest, and the bare name is a disambiguation page for the two alternatives of the Priest and the two submarines named after him, so there is no great navigation difficulty. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 22:01, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Creating framework for roster entry for sports team

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_Kentucky_Wildcats_football_team

Page does not currently contain a roster entry for the team of 1967. Various other seasons contain a separate roster section, however there doesn't appear to be a uniform method for adding the entry. Would it be possible to add a framework for any page without including the individual players or can it only be created as the whole table?

How does one add an item in related articles (in this case the football media guide published by the university for the corresponding year), and link the cover image to the header of the page? The media guide will generally contain the roster and in cases where the roster is unavailable via the media guide it can be found on a game-by-game basis in the programs for each game many which are available through the university's digital library. BigBlueChaos (talk) 20:07, 28 July 2026 (UTC)

Unable to revert bad youtube link edit due to blacklist issue

Hello,

A user replaced a link with a youtube link, which I do not feel is appropriate for Wikipedia and a similar edit like this was removed. However, when I try to revert the edit, it says that the original site is registered on Wikipedia's blacklist.

Here is the edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Techcombank&action=submit&undo=1366642440&undoafter=1359556270

Thank you! MathMan4 (talk) 06:56, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

The issue has been resolved by another user, I think. Johnuniq (talk) 07:19, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

How long does it take to get input from RFC?

Hi, I'm just wondering how long it usually takes for RFC input? I put in a request about three days ago for the Princess Alice of Battenberg page and have only had one person respond, other than those already involved in the conversation before the RFC was requested. ItsShandog (talk) 07:46, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

You could post a brief pointer to the discussion, on the talk page of one or two of the article's WikiProjects. I would suggest Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility is your best bet. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:20, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. ItsShandog (talk) 11:14, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia Inclusion

How may Buckhead Preparatory School be included in Wikipedia ~2026-42112-57 (talk) 10:19, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

By first of all finding at least three (more if possible) separate published items that fully comply with all of the conditions summarised at WP:Golden rule. Without those, no article is possible, because schools have no automatic presumption of Notability: see Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools.

Once those sources are found, their content and nothing else can be summarised and structured (and cited) to form a Draft article: see Help:Your first article). Very limited additional facts (such as the name of the current Head Teacher, etc.) may be added from sources that are connected to the school (such as its website).

Note that if you have any connection to the school, this is a WP:Conflict of interest that you should declare somewhere, probably on the Talk page of the Draft if you do not create your own Wikipedia account.

Additionally, if you are any kind of employee of the school, or any School District authority it may fall under, you must also declare yourself to be a WP:Paid editor. Remember also that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that maintains a neutral point of view, and any kind of promotion of a subject is forbidden.

Your query did not specify that you were willing to (attempt to) create the article, but it is very unlikely that any other editor will volunteer to do it for you. All Wikipedia editors are volunteers who only do what they choose to, so nobody can be assigned to the task. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 10:58, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

creating redirect

I made a request for redirecting, and it was automatically cancelled. Below I paste in the text. The basic thing is simply that an entry on a famous Buddhist monk has the not entirely correct spelling "Chandawimala" and I would like to ensure that someone searching with the correct spelling "Chandavimala" will find this entry. What did I do wrong? Buddhist Peter

Target of redirect: Chandawimala Reason: The spelling "Chandawimala" (for this entry: Rerukane Chandawimala Thera) is common in Sri Lanka but not correct, as the name of a Theravada monk is in Pali, and the Pali spelling is Chandavimala. In order for anyone who searches the above entry with the correct spelling Chandavimala to arrive at it, I suggest a redirect. Source (if applicable): Buddhist Peter (talk) 14:24, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Declined. A redirect cannot be created unless the target is an existing article. Either you have not specified the target, or the target does not exist. (Automatically declined) Buddhist Peter (talk) 14:31, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Buddhist Peter, the request was declined automatically because the target you suggested did not exist. I suggest you resubmit the request with the following changes:

Redirect request: [[Chandavimala]] → [[Rerukane Chandavimala Thera]]

Target of redirect: [[Chandawimala]] → [[Rerukane Chandawimala Thera]]

TSventon (talk) 15:01, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much :) Buddhist Peter (talk) 15:03, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Buddhist Peter, I had a look at the form you filled in at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and you can click "preview" before submitting a request. If the request is invalid the preview will show that the request as rejected. TSventon (talk) 15:43, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I really appreciate your kindness in trying to help me. What happens now is that I get blocked from publishing the redirect with the message "Your changes could not be saved because of an edit conflict. Would you like to resolve the conflict manually?" When I try to do that, I land on a version of my first attempt to redirect. (If this is taking up too much of your time, please feel welcome to forget about it). Buddhist Peter (talk) 16:13, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I try to handle edit conflicts by opening a new version of the page I am editing, then copying my edit from the edit conflict report, unless the edit by another editor makes my edit unnecessary.

I have copied your original request into the form with corrections, hopefully a page watcher will see it shortly, they may have queries. TSventon (talk) 16:27, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Page update

My not for profit organisation's page (UK Music) is severely out of date and requires a raft of updates. When my colleagues have previously tried to update the page their edits have been rejected. Please can you advise on how we can update our page?

Thanks very much. ~2026-41927-11 (talk) 14:54, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-41927-11 Editors with a conflict of interest need to first create an account so that they can make the appropriate disclosures (in this case covered by WP:PAID since you are employees of the organisation) and then you can use the WP:Edit request wizard to guide you in making edit requests which will then be reviewed and implemented by independent volunteer editors. Athanelar (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I would additionally note each employee who wishes to contribute needs their own account. 331dot (talk) 15:01, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Courtesy link UK Music, where I see it has been sent to WP:AFD. Theroadislong (talk) 15:21, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

"Reliablity" of non-English, non-Western secondary sources

Are the Marathi newspapers Sakal and Nav-Shakti and Maharashtra Times and Loksatta classified as "reliable sources" for the purposes of Wikipedia draft articles? Prachi Khandeparkar (talk) 18:03, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

I read Sakal, Navshakti, Maharashtra Times, and Loksatta and can't see why not. There is general guidance about news organisations at WP:NEWSORG. TSventon (talk) 18:30, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

TikTok

Header inserted by ColinFine (talk)

Good morning /good eve mam/sir... Concern me TikTok Shop..do not order and resive order TikTok Shop. Why cash out balance my gcash account.. Pls helf me refund balance.sir start date July 01 2026...very sory today me report u I'm busy work construction skilld Carpenter house repair. Start one day morning 7:30pm to 5:00 evening shine or rain Freddierick millo musni (talk) 20:20, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

Hello, Freddiereick millo musni. You have come to the Help desk for Wikipedia. We have nothing to do with TikTok: you'll need to ask them directly. --ColinFine (talk) 20:25, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

How does this even happen? How does one end up at Enwiki’s help desk by looking for TikTok support agents? Electricmemory (talk) In solidarity 22:13, 29 July 2026 (UTC)

There was one a few weeks ago who complained about TikTok ignoring him in this help desk. I think when you type TikTok in the search query of a specific search program, It automatically relates to here. Ksb0218 (talk) 03:26, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

How to add ‘skin-invert-image’ to an image in an infobox image?

Resolved

 – Infobox was updated to support a css parameter for the image. Sozo6891 (talk) 02:53, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

I’m editing Neighbor Discovery Protocol to fix an SVG which doesn’t display properly in dark mode. It uses an infobox showing an SVG image. Since this SVG doesn’t display in dark mode, I want to add skin-invert-image to it (and I don’t want to break other articles using the same infobox template). How do I add the invert option only to the single image?

Thanks

Sozo6891 (talk) Sozo6891 (talk) 01:17, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Formally, the template needs to support adding CSS classes to the image. Informally, there are hacky ways to add classes without needing explicit template support.

The infobox template that Neighbor Discovery Protocol uses, {{Infobox networking protocol}}, does not support image classes. I have just added support to it so that you can add |image class = skin-invert-image to the NDP article. This should not affect other articles. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 01:33, 30 July 2026 (UTC) (edited 01:41, 30 July 2026 (UTC))

Thanks a lot. I’ve updated the article and it renders correctly in dark mode. The problem is solved Sozo6891 (talk) 02:37, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

How to edit the system map for South Yorkshire Supertram?

Have noticed an error on the system map but I cannot find any link on the page to edit it. Where is it please? A bit iffy (talk) 05:42, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

It is a non-editable picture; you'd have to make a new one. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:22, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

(I'm not an image expert, but I would hope that if you contributed an .svg image that includes the latest updates, so that in the future it can be edited without remaking the whole thing, you would become a legendary hero in the South Yorkshire Supertram community.) :) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:46, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

The alternative is to create a new diagram as a railway diagram template. Such a diagram can handle different colours for different lines. Mjroots (talk) 11:32, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

alphabetical order of languages in the search field dropdown menu on the home page

Hello,

Please explain why Russian is the second from the bottom of the list? It should be right after Romanian if we order by latin transliteration. For example: Shqip (Albanian) is after Afrikaans and it is OK. Russian almost in the end of the list is not OK.

Best regards, User a5994

A5994 (talk) 05:53, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

If you convince them that Русский is fake and it's really called "Russian", then your wish will come true. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 06:18, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Most of the languages on www.wikipedia.org are sorted by English name (not shown) rather than by local name, hence Shqip appearing under A. That can't be coming from the same source as the mouseover tooltip, which is set to Russkiy. Русский may have a missing or incorrect English translation, which should be be easy to fix if you ask in the right place (Phabricator?). Certes (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

@A5994: I have created phab:T433604: "Русский (Russian) is last in portal language selection". PrimeHunter (talk) 12:39, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

What is the correct English term for a small "fast-food kiosk" that sell dürüm?

I'm writing an article that largely circles around a small "fast-food kiosk" that sell dürüm and other fast-food kebab dishes, but I do not know what English term to use.

It's a small 4 by 12 metres (13 ft × 39 ft), permanently built, isolated, building in the middle of a pedestrian street/square. They have a few indoor and outdoor seats, but generally you order food to-go. In this particular context, the dishes are kebab, but other "kiosks" sell hamburgers, hotdogs, etc... Most of the dishes are considered full meals.

In Swedish we call them w:sv:gatukök, which links to English "snack bar". So while "snack bar" seems like an obvious choice, to my non-native brain "snack bar" sounds a bit off. I also rather avoid terms like "restaurant" and "fast-food place", because those sounds too large in size. – Christoffre (talk) 09:18, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Apart from Kiosk...food stall/street Stall might catch the gist of what you want to say. Lectonar (talk) 09:34, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Aren't food stalls/street stalls somewhat impermanent? This is a brick building with plumbing and all. – Christoffre (talk) 09:46, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

I would use food booth/street booth for an impermanent structure. After some deliberation I think snack bar might actually come nearest to what you want to say. As a sidenote: in German we would have an Imbissstand/Imbissbude (which are impermanent) and an Imbissstube which would be a more permanent structure. Lectonar (talk) 10:17, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go ahead with "snack bar" then. In worst case, it can always be changed later. As for the sidenote: we use matstånd/matbod in Swedish for Imbissstand/Imbissbude, which I think are more or less straight translations of each other. – Christoffre (talk) 10:32, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Maniac (TV series)

Hi, I've requested that Maniac (Norwegian TV series) be moved to Maniac (TV series). I'm not familiar with the relevant naming conventions, but it seems to me that a TV series is not ambiguous with the miniseries Maniac (miniseries). Any clarification or input would be appreciated at Talk:Maniac (Norwegian TV series). ~2026-42162-20 (talk) 11:06, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Template:Coord statatics by globe

How to get each statatics of coord template transluded each by each, mean how many pages (articles) with the specific number by different planets/moon/dward plantes or other celebritals body, include mercury, venus, moon, mars, phobos, deimos, ceres, vesta, jupiter, ganymede, callisto, io, europa, mimas, enceladus, tethys, dione, rhea, titan, hyperion, iapetus, phoebe, miranda, ariel, umbriel, titania, oberon, triton, pluto, and charon.

The questions is : how to view how many articles breakdwon by varipus celebritals body e.g. moon or mars ~2026-42227-36 (talk) 13:01, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

White text on a white background

I uploaded File:Evil Neuro logo.png (locally, since PD in US but not country of origin), and it was taken from this official website on a dark background. The png has white text and with the standard background for transparent text on pngs being white, half of it is invisible. What, if anything, should be done? 1brianm7 (talk) 13:38, 30 July 2026 (UTC)