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File:Ahma Shobaki, Minister of Public Works of Jordan, meets RSEA offcials.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:06, 31 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Professional portrait photo (of uploader?), dubious self-work claim FASTILY 02:04, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: resolved with UI crop czar 10:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC)reply

Copyrighted software UI and copyrighted text. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 02:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Elaborate please. Similar media: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countries_blocking_access_to_The_Pirate_Bay#/media/File:Airtelbb_block_17_05_2012.png is also near identical in context yet is considered proper. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotLessOrEqual (talk • contribs) 07:20, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

It is not proper. It will be deleted shortly on Commons. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 07:23, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Keep. What's not proper about it? It seems very legitimate to include a screenshot of the content, if viewed as a published, public notice by a key player regarding a national political stance. Previous examples (never challenged) include the very popular Thai government block notice I uploaded a few years ago. prat (talk) 23:33, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Further, it is definitely not software UI as you suggest. prat (talk) 23:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Further, even if the view is taken that the public message is non-free content (dubious), then it probably meets the contextual significance criteria, under the single item of non-free content: To identify a subject of discussion, depiction of a prominent aspect of the subject generally suffices, thus only a single item of non-free content meets the criterion. For example, to allow identification of music albums, books, etc., only an image of the front cover art of the object is normally used; for identification of specific coins and currency, images of the front and back are normally used.. prat (talk) 23:38, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Further, there is an entire entire commons category of images like this already, strongly suggesting there is no issue with them legally. prat (talk) 23:44, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
FYI, I have just uploaded the equivalent image from Optus. prat (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
- It is software UI. And the text is copyrighted. To be eligible under a claim of fair use, the software would need to be cropped out, since it is not necessary to illustrate the blocking. The previous example you linked does not have any software in it. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 23:47, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
  - As it happens, I am a software professional of 20 years, and I can tell you quite clearly that it is not software. For it to be considered software, it would need: (1) a program (2) input (3) processing (4) output. It is not software, it is a notice published as a static webpage. As such, there is no software to 'crop out'. Perhaps you are well meaning but if so you are definitely confused. prat (talk) 23:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply
    - I don't mean it is the source code. It is the software UI. Someone created the image that is displayed on the computer. That creative image is copyrighted. The notice is separate from the UI of the web browser and OS. The notice can be used under fair use. The software cannot. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 00:08, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
      - The uploader created the image when they made the screenshot. Similar to how tens of others have done so for the entire commons category mentioned. You are confused. prat (talk) 00:12, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        If I take a screenshot of a CNN article, that doesn't mean I own the copyright to the CNN article. Derivative works are prohibited. I assure you that I am not confused. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 00:14, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        An article is a substantive work of art, whereas, a simple public notice is not. This is obviously clear, otherwise you could not for example take photographs of shopfronts because the signage was copyright, or fashion because the clothes were copyright, and so on. If you wish to argue otherwise, please obtain an objective legal opinion. prat (talk) 00:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        You cannot take photos of shopfronts if the sign meets the threshold of originality. Now, this text may or may not be enough to meet the threshold of originality. It doesn't really matter because it can be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the software UI is copyrighted. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 00:25, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        Are you saying that you agree that this type of image is fine to use and that you rescind the deletion request? prat (talk) 00:46, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        That's not at all what I said. "The software UI is copyrighted." If it was re-uploaded with just the text, then it could be used as fair use. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 00:52, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        That's ridiculous. If you take such a nitpicking approach, then you may as well claim that images containing typography utilizing most fonts cannot be used as they are not openly licensed for use on Wikipedia. I refuse to waste my time discussing this further - the entire category of accepted, established images clearly show that this type of image is not legally problematic, and that you are misguided in your complaint. prat (talk) 00:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
        The existence of a category on Commons does not affect the copyright status of this image. Some software there is free software, and some text there is freely licensed. Some images there are also not allowed, and I will nominate them for deletion. Typefaces are explicitly not covered by copyright. See Threshold_of_originality#Typefaces_and_geometry. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 01:02, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Note that a similar screenshot was deleted on Commons. See . Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 04:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)reply
- Similarly, note that the one I uploaded wasn't. prat (talk) 17:49, 31 December 2016 (UTC)reply
  - That's because it did not show the software UI. I've said previously that if the software UI was cropped out, it would be fine to host on Wikipedia. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 01:46, 1 January 2017 (UTC)reply
    - I can crop out the U.I and re-upload if you guys want me to. I disagree about the text however, as it put into context to serve as public notice. The analogy of the "photograph of shopfront" although good, also paves the way for more questionable context to consider. For example, an original photograph provided as a commons to Wikimedia of for example, Times Square, New York https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_Square#/media/File:New_york_times_square-terabass.jpg depicts a location with hundreds of advertisements and shopfronts including copyrighted logos of companies, yet the copyright merits of that media does not appear to have been challenged, and never has been. The same can be said for many media of similar context. NotLessOrEqual (talk) 11:34, 2 January 2017 (UTC)reply
      - The text is fine. It is just the UI that is problematic. If it is cropped, the previous version will need to be revdeled. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 11:38, 2 January 2017 (UTC)reply
        U.I has been removed. Inspect the file again for evaluation. NotLessOrEqual (talk)
        It's good, thank you. Now an administrator just needs to delete the previous version. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 02:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)reply
        Np, fam. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotLessOrEqual (talk • contribs) 08:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:00, 1 January 2017 (UTC)reply

The uploader is very unlikely to be the author. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Not suitable free use rational Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 02:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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WP:BLP: no evidence that this suicide bomber and the namesake of the file are the same. Already removed the image from the article, but we shouldn't have this in any case (note that the page creator made the necessary number of edits to be auto-confirmed, then created this image and the article, and then left for good). Fram (talk) 08:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Third party logo, This version may be self, but the underlying logo design possibly isn't. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:15, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unencyclopedic image, out of scope. XXN, 14:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 14:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:06, 1 January 2017 (UTC)reply

Probably is non-free content, movie title screen or promo.

Affected: File:Bol-Film2.JPG XXN, 14:37, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unlikely to be own work and free content if this photo is taken at a photoshoot of some movie and was previously published on facebook. THe source to original post on facebook is needed, or a explicit permission via WP:OTRS. XXN, 14:42, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unencyclopedic image, out of scope. XXN, 14:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 14:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 16:11, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of project scope. XXN, 16:12, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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+ other paintings uploaded by user Ehart7989.

Derivative works (photographs of paintings). No evidence of permission. Should be confirmed via WP:OTRS. XXN, 16:22, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused, non-free, mislicensed file. XXN, 16:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Out of project scope. XXN, 16:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Out of project scope. Is a derivative work and a source to original image must be provided in order to verify if it is available under a free license. --XXN, 16:57, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

It's funny as heck ! However, I can't see a way this could be legitimately used on Wikipedia, so regretably I'd have to vote *Delete. KoshVorlon 17:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of project scope. XXN, 17:01, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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UK government work subject to Crown copyright Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 20:50, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Invalid PD reason. Italian government works are copyrighted. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 20:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Work of DOE lab. Per Template:PD-USGov-DOE, some labs are not free. Lab website, buildings.lbl.gov contains copyright notice. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 20:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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UK Government work subject to Crown copyright Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 21:22, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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No evidence it was published before 1978 as the PD tag says. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 21:40, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Converted to fair use Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 05:31, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Government work subject to Crown copyright. Apparently recent according to Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 21:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Relicense to fair use, non-free logo. Usage is appropriate as the lead image in the infobox/article. Salavat (talk) 05:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
- Done. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 05:29, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 13:08, 30 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Invalid PD tag. No such thing as an unregistered image. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 21:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Converted to fair use Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 05:32, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Logo does not appear in open source directory or anywhere that would indicate it is public domain Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 22:00, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Relicense to fair use, non-free logo. Usage is appropriate as the lead image in the infobox/article. Salavat (talk) 05:20, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply
- Done. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 05:24, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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State government works are copyrighted in the U.S. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 22:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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File copyrighted in Australia and U.S. still. See Template:PD-Australia Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 22:09, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Available on Commons in svg format as File:Coat of Arms of Ulcinj.svg. XXN, 22:57, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 23:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 23:25, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 23:27, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Probably a personal photo. Unused - out of scope. XXN, 23:28, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 23:29, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of scope. XXN, 23:30, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: one week to convert to fair use czar 10:36, 13 January 2017 (UTC)reply

Only Philippines government edicts are free of copyright. See Template:PD-PhilippinesPubDoc Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 23:35, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Relicense to fair use, non-free logo. Usage is appropriate as the lead image in the infobox/article. Salavat (talk) 05:21, 24 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Nominate the others for discussion. czar 10:38, 13 January 2017 (UTC)reply

+other similar uploads from Special:ListFiles/Albireo8:

Old, unused test files(?) - Out of project scope. --XXN, 23:36, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of project scope. XXN, 23:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unused personal photo - out of project scope. XXN, 23:43, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Non-notable person in photo - out of project scope. XXN, 23:46, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Photo of a non-notable person - out of project scope. XXN, 23:49, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Unlikely to be own work. Such a low resolution is almost 100% a image from web. XXN, 23:51, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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Image from here, which has a copyright notice. Government works of the Philippines are not auto exempt from copyright Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 23:53, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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All uploads from Special:Contributions/Digitalofficepro

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The result of the discussion was: delete czar 10:45, 13 January 2017 (UTC)reply

+ all uploads from Special:Contributions/Digitalofficepro: Promotional uploads, unused - out of project scope. XXN, 23:57, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

Hm, user is blocked. Speedy-delete them. --XXN, 23:59, 23 December 2016 (UTC)reply

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