Template talk:They

Capitalization

I'm not sure where the best place is for this proposal, but hopefully this is as good a place as any (if not, let me know). I understand that there's a convention for template names and invocations to be case-insensitive, but in this case it seems like the logical way to structure this would be to have {{Their}} point to the {{ucfirst:{{Their}}}} invocation and {{their}} point to the lowercase version. It would make the template much more convenient to use and make the corresponding code more readable. Srey Sros^talk 23:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

@SreySros: Page titles, including those in the Template namespace, ignore the capitalization of the first character and default to uppercase. You can see more at m:Help:Page name#Case-sensitivity. An alternative place for technical discussions like this where the talk page may not have many participants (such as this page) is WP:VPT. —Locke Cole • t • c 07:45, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Thank you. Srey Sros^talk 17:02, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit request to complete TfD nominations

Template:Their has been listed at Templates for discussion (nomination), but it was protected, so it could not be tagged. Please add:

{{subst:tfm|help=off|1=His or her}} {{subst:tfm|help=off|1=His/her}}

to the top of the page to complete the nomination. Thank you. TartarTorte 00:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done by User:Paine Ellsworth but I have removed one of the boxes which I assume is okay — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

To editor TartarTorte: any reason why 2 notices are needed that point to the same discussion? P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 11:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, was asleep. It seems that I used twinkle the wrong way to do a merge nomination.  Self-trout TartarTorte 12:24, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, too. We both were asleep. And thanks to Martin for waking us! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 12:46, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Alternative to "themself?"

It seems that since the creation of Template:They, the reflexive gender-neutral form is {{themself}}, with {{themselves}} never being an option. Template:Gender gives the option between {{gender|Username|themself}} and {{gender|Username|themselves}}. At risk of seeming nitpicky, is there any way to create an option for {{themselves}}, as this is the way many (most?) people use the reflexive gender-neutral term in the singular. AnandaBliss (talk) 14:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

You can create {{themselves}} yourself. Nardog (talk) 16:07, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi Nardog, I'm not sure how to create a template like that. Could you point me to some resources? Thanks! AnandaBliss (talk) 17:06, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Adding to this: themselves is the usual English word, even when talking about one person. Note how Wiktionary's entry marks themself as nonstandard and sometimes proscribed. 2A00:23C5:FE1C:3701:888:8C8E:A3FE:E3AA (talk) 12:51, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the details, and in everyday speech I've seen the same thing. The issue for me is, and maybe I should be embarrassed to admit it, that I'm not sure how to create a new pronoun template. Once I figure out how, I'll be adding {{themselves}} to it. AnandaBliss (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)