Talk:Yin and yang

Yin and yang chart

I think it would be be helpful to add a chart showing various qualities that the yin and yang represent (for example: masculine in one column and feminine in the other) 2600:1700:5D50:CF80:F1E9:E84F:BA03:27C6 (talk) 14:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

It would need to be justified in sources, perhaps reflecting a chart already in an academic publication. We can't just arrange whatever information we want to give it whatever prominent presentation we want. Remsense诉 17:02, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Italics for Chinese words

Some words like taiji and qi are italicised in the article, whilst daoyin and qigong are not italicised. What is the overall guidance for the italicisation of Chinese-based terminology? 66.215.184.32 (talk) 04:42, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

It's the same advice as with loanwords and non-English terminology in general: MOS:FORITA. Generally, I try to stick with what the article for the term is doing if it's at all sensical. Specifically here, qi should obviously not be italicised (I've fixed it on so many articles, so I just assumed I did at some point on this one); qigong probably shouldn't be either, as it's seen considerable English-language use. Taiji and daoyin have not imo, and should be italicised. Remsense ‥ 诉 06:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Original research

The article has a lot of original research as indicated by the tags with "citation needed" written on them. Unless the tagged contents ever get verified, their authenticity and presence in the article are in question. 47.156.99.53 (talk) 20:26, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

That's all implicit in the existence of the 'cite needed' tags. Are you proposing something - perhaps to do the research and find the citations to verify the content? There are a great many of the tags, which means it's a lot of work for editors to sift through and verify. I'm generally a 'deletionist' WRT unsourced content that's been tagged for a long time, but in this case, there I don't see glaring issues with most of the entries as far as I can tell. I have limited time to devote to researching the matter, as do most editors. If you'd like to put in the work to clear the tags, by all means do so. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 22:11, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

A lot of the unsourced stuff is more than a year old. Their age suggests they're unlikely to be cited. Perhaps it is best to remove them. Wikipedia highly values verifiability. 2603:8000:E800:5F4E:78D8:3855:39D3:437D (talk) 04:49, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

True. But on the other hand, much of the article is quite well cited, and, barring subtle vandalism, the likelihood that any of the unsourced information is maliciously false seems quite low. As well, none of the information is time-sensitive, dangerous, malign, or obviously false and made up. So in this case, particularly with concepts and a subject that have been in existence for more than two-thousand years, I think there's no great urgency, and a year or two not burdensome to hope a well-versed editor might be willing to put in the effort.

I think it may be useful to 'ping' the editors who have contributed the most to the article, as they're likely to be better equipped to find sourcing and such, than a rank amateur as am I.

So, here's a ping to seven of the top ten editors of this article (one is blocked from editing, the others are inactive):

User:Keahapana

User:Remsense

User:Foristslow

User:Sunray

User:Erminwin

User:Yue

User:Gun Powder Ma

cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 06:39, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

This is one article I'd very much like to see improved. Recently I've been stuck in a pattern of running around and (badly) putting out fires, and not doing nearly enough to actively make important articles better. Remsense ‥ 论 22:58, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

If you can assist when you have time, it would be greatly appeciated. Per my comments, I don't see an urgent need to update the information. Nice to have it updated? Yes. Hair on fire? Nope. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 18:38, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I would very much like to be of assistance. It very much helps me to enumerate concrete bullet points I can direct my work around rectifying. Often, well-instantiated maintenance tags serve as these for me. Remsense ‥ 论 18:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Wanted to note here that anon IP has been gradually removing the cite-needed tagged content. I have no real objections; it's unsourced, it's been tagged that way a long time, I don't have the wherewithall to handle sourcing all of it, and it appears editor Remsense also doesn't have the 'bandwidth' for it either. All good. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 02:03, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi everyone I will help also. Foristslow (talk) 22:09, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, it would be much appreciated! cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 22:36, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

i will help where I can, but as most of my knowledge is medical as well as oral transmission. It will be very general as not really interested in sharing much now because of AI. Foristslow (talk) 23:18, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Cosmology

Hi open to discuss this further. Think of yin and yang as a necessity for tension and friction. In the body this tension creates a health robust immunity. Like force and motion could be the explanation for heat as heat is a symptom of friction, as is mater is a symptom also. Foristslow (talk) 07:10, 16 April 2025 (UTC)