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Latest comment: 9 months ago by Kowal2701 in topic First settlers?

If you are going to add, please be sure to cite your source of information. Lemurbaby (talk) 02:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Menehune, et al.

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The Malagasy aren't the only Austronesian people with a tradition of small people who were earlier inhabitants: the Hawaiians had the Menehune, and some of the traditions about the Moriori people in New Zealand are a little reminiscent as well. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others, but I don't remember any offhand. There might be some kind of inherited tradition involved. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:42, 17 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

First settlers?

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The General History of Africa volume 9 (2025) pages 899-900 says

It was through trade between Austronesians and the west Indian Ocean that the first immigrants settled in Madagascar. Arriving in successive waves and often settling in remote areas, they undoubtedly organized themselves in small autonomous or independent groups, and lived by hunting, fishing and foraging. In their villages and clearings, whether fringing bays, river mouths or confluences, united by the bond of residence, they lived under the authority of wise and influential older men. As the first settlers, they called themselves tompontany or ancestral masters of the land, to affirm that their habitat and the land that fed them were theirs. They were the tompontany of the pre-Vazimba period and included the Kimosy or Gola in South Betsileo (Raherisoanjato, 1982, pp. 7-17), the Rasikajy in the north-east (Rabemanantsoa et al., 2011, pp. 133-148), the Antankoala and the Kajemby in the north-west, and the Antevinany in the south-east. Later, other Austronesians, newcomers who were better organized than the first arrivals, settled on the island and established their own villages. Farmers who practised slash-and burn agriculture, their contact with the tompontany was either peaceful or violent. Gradually, marriage alliances led to the assimilation, absorption and integration of the older settlers into the communities of new arrivals. But the two sides still frequently clashed and defeated tompontany were driven from their lands, ousted, minoritized and denigrated. The victors, the Vazimba, then declared themselves to be tompontany.

I haven't researched this much, but it appears the Vazimba as first settlers has been revised? I can't find semi-recent sources explicitly saying they were the first settlers, only early settlers Kowal2701 (talk) 23:14, 1 November 2025 (UTC)Reply