Talk:Urban sprawl

Subsidies

I think there should be talk of all the subsidies that sprawl gets. Its, I think, the real reason we have sprawl.

In many places, governments are prohibited from charging for the (full) cost of adding the capacity to schools, parks, libraries, water supply (both source and main pipes), sewage disposal (both main pipes and plant), garbage disposal, arterial roads, police stations, fire stations, hospitals, etc that new development uses.

In addition, in lower density development, streets, transit service, water pipes, sewer pipes, electricity lines, telephone lines, cable television lines, garbage trucks, recycling trucks, postal service, UPS/FedEx/DHL/other mailing services, pizza/other delivery services, police, fire protection, etc must all travel/be extended farther to reach the same amount of people. Yet these people often do not have to pay the increased cost it takes to provide these services vs. in more compact/already developed areas. Jason McHuff 07:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

If government is prohibited from charging for the full cost of these services, who pays for them?--Rotten 16:06, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Oops, that isn't quite clear. I meant that many local governments are prohibited from charging developers / people/businesses in newly developed areas / people/businesses in areas costlier to serve (because the people/businesses are farther apart) the full additional cost of the services they use. The additional cost is instead paid by everybody who lives in/pays taxes to the same district/government agency that provides the services.

For example, instead of a school district being able to charge a new development an impact fee and use that to build a new school for the new development to use, it must often ask everybody in the school district to pass a bond measure and pay for the new school with property taxes, even though most of the taxpayers don't live in the new development that the new school serves. Jason McHuff 20:11, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

More than implicit subsidies, the article should discuss that in many regions (including much of the US), low-density, single-use development is mandated by zoning. This is the most extreme form of subsidy possible: by requiring low density development and banning high density, it necessarily increases the supply of low density and decreases its price. Zsubin (talk) 05:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

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History section

I moved the history section to Greater London Built-up Area --PJ Geest (talk) 08:39, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Why no mention of wind "farms," the most visible form of sprawl today?

The definition of urban sprawl should be updated to include all infrastructure that feeds the "growing needs" of cities and their fringes.

There are too many excuses for industrial wind power sprawl, which puts huge eyesores on the skyline and also requires new transmission lines through rural and wild areas. Fracking sprawl is another big problem, though not as visually evident at ground level.

The root problem is population growth, which we're not supposed to question either, along with "economic growth" driven by it and a debt-based system.

https://www.google.com/search?q=energy+sprawl+land+use — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.115.118 (talk) 01:27, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

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