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Latest comment: 4 days ago by ~2026-42278-84 in topic A NATO-led group (as of Q3 2026)

how does this differ from Ukraine Lend Lease?

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Latest comment: 7 months ago3 comments3 people in discussion

I'm not sure how this differs from the lend lease and other military assistance given to Ukraine by the US in 2022 post-invasion. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable could add a clarifying statement? It seems to me that this initiative essentially gives ukraine money to then contract with US companies to buy their systems. Kenzie.one (talk) 12:47, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I have the same question but couldn’t find an answer after searching thoroughly. I’m especially wondering who is paying for the assistance ie is it the US given the tanks or will Ukrainian pay back, as Europe did with the Marshall plan post WW2? Phm123 (talk) 18:54, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Lend Lease is supposed to be repaid. USAI isn't. Lend Lease wasn't activated for Ukraine. USAI has been working for several years now.
--Kombucha₂₅ (🍵) 01:15, 2 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

ECP edit request on 28 August 2025

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Latest comment: 10 months ago13 comments4 people in discussion

As article is extended-protected now, please edit as follows, at infobox section, and a wikilink addition to the SAG-U section. Cross-references in the infobox are very informative. Thank you. 78.81.123.235 (talk) 13:30, 28 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

78.81.123.235 (talk) 12:46, 30 July 2025 (UTC) 78.81.123.235 (talk) 07:09, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Inimn (talk), hi. I've reopened the request as no explanation from your side was given. 78.81.123.235 (talk) 12:50, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
  • Please, add to the footnote [c] of the Infobox:
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{{efn|FY2016-FY2021, actuals as reported by the Department of Defense; FY2022-FY2024, as appropriated.}}
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{{efn|FY2016-FY2021, actuals as reported by the Department of Defense; FY2022-FY2024, as appropriated. As of Q2FY2025, $33.512 billion were appropriated, $23.29 billion [[obligation#Finance|obligated]], and $12.469 billion [[disbursed]] under USAI since FY2022.<ref name=OAR1>{{cite report |url=https://www.stateoig.gov/uploads/report/report_pdf_file/oar_q2_mar2025_final.pdf |title=Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q2FY2025 |date=2 May 2025 |access-date=31 July 2025 |via=stateoig.gov}}</ref>{{rp|27 Table 5}}}}
  • Please, add info box to the top of the section SAG-U:
Security Assistance Group Ukraine
Other nameSAG Ukraine, SAG-U
FounderDepartment of Defense
Founding leaderUSEUCOM (ADCON)
Leader
USAREUR-AF (OPCON)
COM SAG-U
LTG Curtis A. Buzzard
Unit type
Operational command
Mission statement
Classified[1]: 5 Infobox 
Aims
Coordinate US security assistance to Ukraine{{efn|While [[NSATU]] is responsible for international security assistance beginning April 2025.[2]: 43 

[3]

| dates = November 4, 2022- pr. | dissolved = | merger = | split = | predecessor = USEUCOM Control Center-Ukraine/
Task Force Dragon[4] | merged = | successor = | country = (recipient)  Ukraine (forward basing only) | allegiance =  United States Armed Forces | motives =Russia deterrence | area = USEUCOM AOR | headquarters = DE (Commd. Center) 50°02′59″N 8°19′31″E / 50.0498°N 8.3254°E / 50.0498; 8.3254

| slogan =

  • Разом до перемоги!
  • Together to Victory!

|anthem = | status = Multinational, active | size = HHC-equivalent | partof = Operation Atlantic Resolve (as Command)

| allies = Commands  •  Alliances:

| opponents = (to be deterred):

| crimes = 3 RUS-UKR front-line monthly movements[c] |flag = | website = Tag: SAG-U
Tag: Ukraine | module =

| module2 =

  • Timeline
  • Outline

| module3 =

| module4 =

Today
part
of

| module5 =

NSATU
• SAG–U •
EUMAM UA
Operational coherence: SAG-U–NSATU coordination;[n] EUMAM UA–SAG-U data sharing, staff rotation

| module6 =

Footnotes
    1. ↑ Before 2025, having handed over its responsibilities to NSATU.[1]: 37 [2]: 44 Table 10 
    2. ↑ Since 2022, after Belarus allowed Russia to use its territory to launch the invasion and to launch missiles into Ukraine. See: Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine
    3. ↑ As of July 2025 by SAG-U Operations Kyiv, at least, to the Ukraine-Russia front-line locations, non-locally authorized.[1]: 37 
    4. ↑ As Task Force Dragon, at the Base's Tony Bass Auditorium, funded by European Deterrence Initiative.[4]
    5. ↑ As long-term assistance command.[6]
    6. ↑ Including two of its planning directorate placed in NSATU command to coordinate AFU's training requirements.[7]: 45  SAG- U's multinational personnel is collocated with NSATU HQ[8] (prior to 2025, with informal International Donor Coordination Centre, IDCC, of more then 50 countries, under UK Brigadier command; IDCC handed over its responsibilities to NSATU).[2]: 44  SAG- U US- only personnel includes up to 60 experts at SAG-U Operations Kyiv (SOK) under authority of the Chief of US Mission in Kyiv.[1]: 37 Table 14 
    7. ↑ As nominated for OAR. Since December 2024, concurrently COM NSATU.[10]
    8. ↑ Concurrently NSATU Enlisted Advisor.[10]
    9. ↑ then COM XVIII Airborne Corps. As Task Force Dragon Commander served till December 2022. Promoted in December 2024 to CG USAREUR-AF overseeing, among others, SAG- U.[4]
    10. ↑ From DEC'22-DEC'24.[4]
    11. ↑ As of August 2025 average tonnage through Poland LEN hub only[8]
    12. ↑ As of October 2024 average US- only SAG- U personnel stationed under authority of the Chief of US Mission in Kyiv, Ukraine.[7]: 58 
    13. ↑ As of October 2025, per requests from Inspector General on Operation Atlantic Resolve.[2]: 106–10 
    14. ↑ Here’s a snapshot of the current NSATU–SAG-U joint efforts that were confirmed at the 21 July 2025 UDCG extended meeting:
      • US–NATO co‑funding mechanism (new channel announced by US president Donald Trump and Secretary General of NATO Mark Rutte for European and Canadian allies to pool funds to purchase US‑made weapons and technology for Ukraine providing faster access to high‑demand systems);
      • Air defense boost (packages of Patriot missile systems and other advanced air‑defense assets pledged by allies to counter Russia’s intensified missile and drone strikes);
      • Industrial and financial backing (long‑term funding streams to expand defense production capacity in Europe and North America to replenish stocks while sustaining Ukraine’s needs over multiple years).

}}

  • Into the 3rd sentence of the Section SAG-U admit as follows, please:
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Ukraine Contact Group
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[[Ukraine Defence Contact Group]]

78.81.123.235 (talk) 15:36, 28 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

78.81.123.235 (talk) 06:44, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: Infoboxes must be about the subject of the article. This article is about USAI not SAG-U. A section cannot have its own infobox, only the article as a whole can. SI09 (talk) 13:01, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@SI09, hi. Thank you for a clue: reworked the infobox to cover the article holistically. It's definitely more data-driven with figures from Congress appropriations since FY2016. Please, take care of the infobox: better not to trim it, but copy-editing would be fine, if appropriate. Thank you 78.81.123.235 (talk) 19:07, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Done with minor edits. Thanks for the great contribution! SI09 (talk) 21:10, 26 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
@SI09, thank you for your care of part of the infobox. Nevertheless, and not because of my efforts only, I'm to reopen the part of my request for the section SAG-U. As you can find at NSATU article, it's possible to include two infoboxes - one in the lead, another to the section. Not only the article would be more sensible (probably, as there is a redirection, the section was merged into existing article from the separate one), a lot of information is missing, while can not be added with prose. Please, reevaluate your consideration. Thank you. 78.81.123.235 (talk) 07:05, 27 July 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Done Good work. I will say, the second infobox does visually look questionable due to the article layout & text length. Additionally, if you are running certain scripts, (such as DuplicateReferences) it introduces a huge blank space. But for logged out & no script users it's okay. I will mention, one option would be to remove the two {{notelist}} from the infoboxes and keep them displayed in the Footer section. But I suppose it's personal preference. Nubzor [T][C] 20:41, 22 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Nubzor, thanks a lot. Duly noted. Thank you for deduplication. You may find my other infoboxes ECP request at 'What links here' to my talk page.

And misc editing into the infobox to remove semicolon (and add 22px due to copyright restrictions at talk page for non-free images):

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''Commands&numsp;•&numsp;Alliances:'' {{small|{{hlist|[[:File:EUMAM Ukraine logo.png]] [[EUMAM UA]]
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''Commands&numsp;•&numsp;Alliances:'' {{small|{{hlist|[[File:EUMAM Ukraine logo.png|22px]] [[EUMAM UA]]

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91.122.21.179 (talk) 05:45, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done Fixed that image. And yeah, after merging the dupe refs that script I have didn't throw the visual error so the page looks better on my end! Nubzor [T][C] 12:54, 24 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
 Done 91.122.21.179 (talk) 10:40, 25 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. 1 2 3 4 Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q4FY2024 (PDF) (Report). 13 November 2024. Retrieved 28 July 2025 – via media.defence.gov.
  2. 1 2 3 4 Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q3FY2025 (PDF) (Report). 15 August 2025. Retrieved 15 August 2025 – via stateoig.gov.
  3. ↑ "Security Assistance Group–Ukraine (SAG-U)". SOF News. 22 November 2022. Retrieved 27 October 2025.
  4. 1 2 3 4 5 Entous, Adam (29 March 2025). "The Partnership: The Secret History of the War in Ukraine". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 30 March 2025.
  5. ↑ "U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine–Fact Sheet". U.S. Department of State. 12 March 2025. Retrieved 27 July 2025 – via state.gov.
  6. ↑ Spencer B. Meredith III. "Building Strategic Lethality: Special Operations Models for Joint Force Learning and Leader Development". Joint Force Quarterly (118, 3rd Quarter 2025): 30–41. Retrieved 29 August 2025. Two key organizations have coordinated the broad U.S.-led effort: Security Assistance Group–Ukraine (SAG-U) on the conventional side and CJSOTF-10 for special operations. Both have served as supply hubs and information conduits for the joint force, interagency, and international partners sustaining the Ukrainian war effort.
  7. 1 2 Special Inspector General for OAR Report to the Congress, Q2FY2025 (PDF) (Report). 2 May 2025. Retrieved 31 July 2025 – via stateoig.gov.
  8. 1 2 Siebold, Sabine (2 July 2025). "Military aid increasingly focuses on boosting Ukraine's defence industry". Reuters. Retrieved 16 July 2025. The United States, however, provides NSATU's commander and about 9% of its personnel in Wiesbaden.
  9. ↑ Belkin, Paul; Bowen, Andrew S.; Nelson, Rebecca M.; Welt, Cory (23 December 2024). "Russia's War Against Ukraine: U.S. Policy and the Role of Congress". Congressional Research Service. Retrieved 27 July 2025 – via Congress.gov, Library of Congress.
  10. 1 2 "Leadership". shape.nato.int/nsatu. Retrieved 8 October 2025.
  11. ↑ Le, Tam (1 June 2025). "Task Force Saber assumes JMTG-U mission during transfer of authority ceremony". 7th Army Training Command. Retrieved 8 October 2025.

Edit request on 9 October 2025

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Latest comment: 9 months ago4 comments2 people in discussion

91.122.21.179 (talk) 17:53, 9 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Please, edit Commanders part of the infobox: the name is only confirmed to be only NSATU, not SAG-U, ACOM

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| commander1_label = Commander<br>[[three-star rank|3-star rank]]| commander2_label = DCOM / ACOM{{small|- Training}}<br>[[one-star rank|1-star rank]]|commander2 = [[Brigadier General (Canada)|BRG]] P.H.G.H. Robichaud<br>{{army|CAN}} {{small|(JUN 2025}}-present) | commander3_label =Command<br> Sergeant<br>Major
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| commander1_label = Commander<br>[[three-star rank|3-star rank]] | commander3_label =Command<br> Sergeant<br>Major

91.122.21.179 (talk) 17:45, 9 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done Nubzor [T][C] 20:09, 9 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
@Nubzor, thanks.  Done 91.122.21.179 (talk) 08:34, 10 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

A NATO-led group (as of Q3 2026)

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Latest comment: 4 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Security Assistance Group–Ukraine, or SAG-U.
It should probably be mentioned in the article.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/81592
Thoughts on wording? ~2026-42278-84 (talk) 05:27, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

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