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Wrong information

I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest. I’d like to request changes to the following content because it is inaccurate / unsourced…

“Raised in the city of Rishon LeZion, he is related to Israeli director Shay Capone. After graduating high school, Capone was conscripted into the Israel Defense Forces in 2004. He served as a soldier and later a squad leader with the IDF's 202nd battalion of the Paratroopers Brigade, and served during the 2006 Lebanon war.” ~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:31, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: Which parts are incorrect? I didn't find sources for the specific batallion, so I removed it. I also removed the claim regarding the paratroopers, since it didn't seem relevant and the source isn't of high quality. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:02, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

The source does not exist online .and the IDF part of it is completely wrong .i would kindly to edit it out . ~2026-25425-26 (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Miss information

“I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest. I’d like to request changes to the following content because it is incorrect and was said jokingly not figuratively.

” In a 2019 interview, he addressed the spelling of his surname: "It's supposed to be with an 'e' at the end, but we don't want people to read it 'Capone' like the gangster. We don't want any misunderstandings." ~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:36, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: Hm... That's what the source says, and it doesn't say or imply that it was a joke. This is a case where it might really help if you verified that you are Capone. Then we could probably believe you when you say it was a joke, and we could simply drop the part "but we don't ... misunderstandings", because it's not very important anyway. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:13, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

How can I verify that it’s me ? ~2026-25425-26 (talk) 17:45, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the details, but I posted a message on your user talk page: User talk:~2026-25425-26#If you are Tomer Capone. — Chrisahn (talk) 17:49, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

COI edit request

“I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest. I’d like to request changes to the following :

” In 2017, he was one of several Israeli celebrities who recreated iconic Israeli photos to celebrate the country's 69th year of independence. Kapon recreated the Life cover of Yossi Ben Hanan after the Six-Day War, which showed him as a young IDF troop triumphantly clutching a rifle while standing in the waters of the Suez Canal”

• capone instead to put a flower in the barrel of the rifle

~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:39, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: I think this has been fixed, the text now says "Capone's recreation notably placed a flower in the barrel of the gun". — Chrisahn (talk) 08:22, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

That as been done to send a massage of peace and anti war ~2026-25425-26 (talk) 17:46, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

request edit

I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest.

I would like to request a modification to the following sentence:

"In 2017, he was one of several Israeli celebrities who recreated iconic Israeli photos to celebrate the country's 69th year of independence. Kapon recreated the Life cover of Yossi Ben Hanan after the Six-Day War, which showed him as a young IDF troop triumphantly clutching a rifle while standing in the waters of the Suez Canal."

Reason: The current description is incomplete. In the recreation, I placed a flower in the barrel of the rifle, which was a deliberate and meaningful artistic choice that is not reflected here.

Proposed change: "...which showed him as a young IDF troop standing in the waters of the Suez Canal, with a flower placed in the barrel of the rifle ~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:46, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: I think this has been fixed, the text now says "Capone's recreation notably placed a flower in the barrel of the gun". — Chrisahn (talk) 08:25, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

wrong info

Change

I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest.

I would like to request the removal of the following statement:

"he is related to Israeli director Shay Capone."

Reason: This information is incorrect. I am not related to Shay Capone.

Proposed change: Remove this statement.

Sources: If needed, I can provide clarification, but there should be no reliable source supporting this ~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:51, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: I think this has been fixed, Shay Capone isn't mentioned in the article anymore. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:27, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Edit wrong information

I am the subject of this article and have a conflict of interest.

I would like to request a correction to the following statement:

"After graduating high school, Capone was conscripted into the Israel Defense Forces in 2004. He served as a soldier and later a squad leader with the IDF's 202nd battalion of the Paratroopers Brigade, and served during the 2006 Lebanon war."

Reason: This information is inaccurate.

Proposed change:

request removal  

Sources: If needed, I can help provide accurate information ~2026-22440-78 (talk) 01:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

We can't verify whether you actually are Tomer Capone, but anyway: Which parts are incorrect? I didn't find sources for the specific batallion, so I removed it. I also removed the claim regarding the paratroopers, since it didn't seem relevant and the source isn't of high quality. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:29, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

The article currently says:

After graduating from high school, Capone was conscripted into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in 2004. He served as a soldier and later as a squad leader, including during the 2006 Lebanon War.

As far as I can tell, that's correct according to the sources. If something is still incorrect, let us know. — Chrisahn (talk) 08:35, 18 April 2026 (UTC)

Tomer Capone's years in the IDF

Tomer Capone, Israeli star of The Boys series, talked about his years in the IDF.

original article: https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/mobile/0,7340,L-4867386,00.html

Eng translated: https://www-ynet-co-il.translate.goog/articles/mobile/0,7340,L-4867386,00.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

~2026-22946-84 (talk) 06:22, 14 April 2026 (UTC)

Please be aware that much of the most controversial content has been removed from the live Ynet article. The original interview can be accessed via the archived version. Should we remove the live link altogether from the reference? Pristino (talk) 07:10, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Strange. The full content is still there in the mobile version, but not in the dektop version. For the archive URL, we already used the mobile version (since the desktop URL doesn't seem to work well on archive.org, it redirects to a paywalled page), so I also changed the main URL in the ref to the mobile version. — Chrisahn (talk) 09:01, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Even stranger: Now both the mobile version and the dektop version are completely gone. Just an HTTP 404 error. Is someone trying to scrub the interview from the internet? Of course, that's not going to work and will only make Ynet look silly. — Chrisahn (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Urgent edit request – removal of unsourced and harmful content (BLP)

I am the subject of this article. There is inaccurate information in the section {military service} .

I am the subject of this article (Tomer Capone), and I am requesting the urgent removal of the following section due to factual inaccuracies and lack of reliable sourcing:

> “After graduating from high school, Capone was conscripted into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in 2004. He served as a soldier and later as a squad leader, including during the 2006 Lebanon War.[3][4] > Capone discussed his military service in a 2016 interview with Ynet. He said he participated in arrests, checkpoint enforcement, and security operations, including during the Gaza disengagement and in Nablus. Toward the end of his service, accumulated exposure to violence culminated in a mental breakdown.[4] In 2026, the interview resurfaced online during the release of The Boys season 5. Aspects of Capone's IDF service, such as the arrest of an 18-year-old Palestinian woman, were criticised.[5]”

This content is inaccurate, misleading, and presented without reliable, verifiable sourcing, particularly regarding the more serious claims and framing.

Per Wikipedia’s policy on Biographies of living persons, contentious or potentially harmful material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced should be removed immediately, not left in place pending discussion.

In addition: - The original source material referenced (a 2016 Ynet interview) is not currently accessible or verifiable in its original form, and what is being circulated online appears to be distorted and taken out of context - The section includes serious claims that are not supported by high-quality, independent, and reliable sources - The inclusion of recent online controversy is presented in a way that amplifies potentially false or manipulated narratives

Given the above, I respectfully request: 1. Immediate removal of this section in its entirety, pending proper verification 2. Any future inclusion of this topic be based only on clear, accurate, and high-quality sources, and presented in a neutral and contextualized manner

I am available to provide clarification if needed and appreciate your prompt attention to this matter.

Thank you

Tomer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomer capone (talk • contribs) 18:30, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

The source of the content is this 2016 Ynet interview with Tomer Capone (archived copy). The interview was still available on the Ynet website until a few days ago: mobile version, archived on 17 April; desktop version, archived on 21 April. The parts about the military service had been removed from the desktop version, but the mobile version was still complete. It looks like both the mobile version and the desktop version of the interview have since been removed from the Ynet site. (And https://yediot.co.il seems to be broken at the moment.) That's strange behavior by Ynet, but it doesn't really matter. It often happens that an online source becomes unavailable. In such cases, we simply use the archived version. That's what we'll do in this case as well.

The relevant parts are the following. I copied them and added a Google translation. (I don't speak Hebrew and I'm not even sure if I managed to copy the Hebrew text correctly – left-to-right / right-to-left issues.)

הוא הלך לצבא וחזר עם סיוטים ממה שעשה עם חבריו בשטחים.

He went to the army and returned with nightmares from what he did with his friends in the territories.

"התגייסתי ב-2004. הייתי לוחם בגדוד וגם מפקד של חיילים צעירים. רוב הזמן עפתי, תחושה מדהימה, אני והחברים לשבט האינדיאני הלוחם שלנו, סוגרים 38 יום במוצב, מגלגלים עלי תה ומעשנים במקום סיגריות כי נתקענו בלי, מפליצים אחד על השני, צחוקים מטורפים, בסופי שבוע אתה יוצא הביתה כל כך חרמן, עייף ורעב, ובולע את כל העולם. זה התחיל מדהים".

"I enlisted in 2004. I was a fighter in a battalion and also a commander of young soldiers. Most of the time I was flying, an incredible feeling, me and the members of our warrior Indian tribe, closing 38 days at the post, rolling tea leaves and smoking instead of cigarettes because we were stuck without, farting at each other, crazy laughter, on weekends you go home so horny, tired and hungry, and swallow the whole world. It started out amazing."

וההמשך היה מורכב.

And what happened next was complex.

"כן. למשל, יוצאים להרבה מעצרים של מבוקשים. פעם אחת יצאנו לעצור אחת בשכם. בתור חייל אתה רק יודע שהיא מבוקשת, אתה צינור שמעביר אותה לשב"כ. אני זוכר את עצמי נורא חדור מטרה, לא חושב יותר מדי על עניינים רגשיים.

"Yes. For example, we go out to arrest a lot of wanted people. Once we went out to arrest one in Nablus. As a soldier, you just know that she's wanted, you're a conduit that passes her to the Shin Bet. I remember myself being very purposeful, not thinking too much about emotional matters.

באמצע הלילה נכנסים לבית של משפחה, אתה לא אגרסיבי אבל המשפחה לא נותנת להוציא את הילדה בת ה־18 שלהם בקלות, ומתחיל שם מאבק. דחיפות, קללות, ואנחנו תולשים אותה ונוסעים. מגיעים, מוציאים אותה מהרכב, היא עם אזיקון ואני תופס אותה בזרוע והיא לא נאבקת, אבל מרפה מהאחיזה שלי, מסמנת לי לתת לה יד בצורה יותר עדינה. העיניים שלה כמובן מכוסות בפלנלית. אני מביא אותה לחדר, מכניס אותה פנימה ורואה בפנים עוד שמונה בנות שנראות פחות או יותר אותו דבר. וסוגרים לך את הדלת בפרצוף. זה היה בסוף השירות, ופתאום שם קרה לי משהו. הלכתי הצידה, הורדתי את הציוד ופשוט התפרקתי, הכל התנקז לזה".

In the middle of the night, you enter a family's house, you're not aggressive, but the family doesn't let you take their 18-year-old girl out easily, and a fight starts there. Pushing, cursing, and we tear her apart and drive off. We arrive, take her out of the car, she's handcuffed and I grab her by the arm and she doesn't struggle, but lets go of my grip, signaling me to give her a hand in a more gentle way. Her eyes are of course covered with flannel. I bring her into the room, put her in and see eight other girls inside who look more or less the same. And they close the door in your face. It was at the end of the service, and suddenly something happened to me there.

הלכתי הצידה, הורדתי את הציוד ופשוט התפרקתי, הכל התנקז לזה".

I went aside, took off my equipment and just fell apart, everything just fell apart."

מה זה אומר להתפרק?

What does it mean to fall apart?

"לקחתי את האפוד והנשק ודפקתי אותם בכל מה שיש בחדר, שברתי דברים, השתוללתי, התקף זעם, בכי, צחוק, התחרפנות.

"I took the vest and the weapon and banged them on everything in the room, broke things, went wild, had a tantrum, cried, laughed, freaked out.

שירתת בסיטואציות מאוד מורכבות. השטחים, ההתנתקות.

You served in very complex situations. The territories, the disengagement.

"בהתנתקות אתה עומד שם, מאבטח ובאים אליך אנשים מבוגרים וצועקים לך 'נאצי' כשאתה במדים. אחרי זה אתה משרת בשכם ועומד במחסום חווארה, לא נותן לאבא לעבור עם הילדה שלו שחולה וצריכה להגיע לבית החולים כי הודיעו לא לתת לאף אחד לעבור. למחרת עוצרים מישהו ומוצאים נשק במגירה שלו. אתה והחברים שלך מתנפלים עליו, אתה מפוצץ אותו במכות. יום אחר נכנסנו למבצע של שבוע בתוך הקסבה של שכם ואני המפקד, ילדים זרקו עלינו אבנים, והפרות סדר, וחבר שלי שיחרר כדור. לחץ, בלגן. והמון רגעים של שבירה, של מעשי קונדס במחסומים, חוסר סבלנות, הסיפורים הכי בנאליים - מישהו מוביל סחורה של פירות, אז לפרק לו את כל המשאית ולפתוח לו את כל האבטיחים, לעשות צחוקים. או לקחת לו שקית פירות בלי שהוא אפילו יודע ולהגיד לו, 'יאללה סע', סתם כי אתה שם שעות ובא לך למות".

"During the disengagement, you stand there, guarding and old people come up to you and yell 'Nazi' at you while you're in uniform. After that, you serve in Nablus and stand at the Huwara checkpoint, not letting a father pass with his daughter who is sick and needs to get to the hospital because they announced not to let anyone pass. The next day, someone is arrested and a weapon is found in his drawer. You and your friends attack him, you beat him up. The next day, we went into a week-long operation inside the Nablus kasbah and I'm the commander. Children threw stones at us, and there were disturbances, and my friend fired a bullet. Pressure, chaos. And lots of moments of disruption, of pranks at the checkpoints, impatience, the most banal stories - someone is transporting fruit, so you disassemble the entire truck and open all the watermelons for him, make jokes. Or take him a bag of fruit without him even knowing and tell him, 'Come on, drive,' just because you've been there for hours and you feel like dying."

מלחמת לבנון השנייה תפסה אותך בסדיר.

The Second Lebanon War caught you off guard.

"ממש על סף שחרור. הייתה תחושה של בלבול וכאוס. חיכינו על הגבול, שמענו את הסיפורים הנוראים. כמה חברים שלי נהרגו במלחמה. חבר מקורס מ"כים מתקשר אליי, מספר שחבר שלי נהרג, ואתה צריך להחזיק את עצמך, יש לך חיילים, צריך לתפקד. חברים אחרים סירבו פקודה ונכנסו לכלא. והבנתי אותם, אמרו לנו שיש איזה כניסה והעדפנו לא לעשות את זה כי היינו מתים. אז אתה אוכל את זה כמו שאתה אוכל לוף ואחרי זה משלם את המחיר כשאתה יוצא החוצה".

"Right on the verge of liberation. There was a feeling of confusion and chaos. We waited at the border, we heard the terrible stories. Several of my friends were killed in the war. A member of the company commanders' course calls me, tells me that my friend was killed, and you have to hold your own, you have soldiers, you have to function. Other friends refused an order and went to prison. And I understood them, they told us there was some way in and we preferred not to do it because we would have died. So you eat it like you eat a loaf of bread and then you pay the price when you get out."

Based on this interview and two other sources, we currently say the following in Tomer Capone#Military service:

After graduating from high school, Capone was conscripted into the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in 2004. He served as a soldier and later as a squad leader, including during the 2006 Lebanon War.

Capone discussed his military service in a 2016 interview with Ynet. He said he participated in arrests, checkpoint enforcement, and security operations, including during the Gaza disengagement and in Nablus. Toward the end of his service, accumulated exposure to violence culminated in a mental breakdown. In 2026, the interview resurfaced online during the release of The Boys season 5. Aspects of Capone's IDF service, such as the arrest of an 18-year-old Palestinian woman, were criticised.

I think that's a neutral and accurate representation of the sources, in particular the 2016 interview. But there's always room for improvement, and if there are specific parts that are incorrect or inaccurate, we should fix or improve them. For example, the Google translation isn't very good; some parts of it are unclear or don't make much sense.

I'm sure that much of what is written online about the interview is distorted, and I understand your frustration. But as far as I can tell, the content of our article is well sourced and accurate.

— Chrisahn (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: per the above response. Day Creature (talk) 20:57, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

P.S.: The identity of User:Tomer capone hasn't been verified yet, but for the purposes of this discussion, that's not essential. — Chrisahn (talk) 09:46, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Hey , the archive version of the interview is not representing the full version, and used to harm and spread hateful, misleading narrative.

Please take this in consideration Tomer capone (talk) 15:04, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

What's missing in the archived version? — Chrisahn (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

(not Tomer)

just from a random reading, "תולשים אותה" is unfairly translated here as the very violeny "tear her apart", which implies physical harm. A more neutral translation would be "tear her away" ~2026-31774-95 (talk) 19:35, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

not only a matter of neutrality. it's almost a wilful mistranslation that implies violencr and harm. ~2026-31774-95 (talk) 19:37, 28 May 2026 (UTC)

To some extent I agree: The Google translation is pretty bad. Almost every sentence contains phrases that are unidiomatic or just wrong. Examples: "farting at each other" should probably be "farting around", "they announced" should be "they ordered", and so on. "Tear her apart" is also wrong, but it's not as terrible as you think. "Tear apart" has (at least) two meanings: "pull violently" and "divide people". In this case, the intended meaning is clearly the latter, but the automatic translation didn't use the phrase correctly. A better translation would be "tear them apart", "tear her apart from her family" or "tear her away". But when I read that sentence, I didn't think of her body getting ripped into pieces. That wouldn't make sense. From context, the intended meaning is pretty obvious. And of course there's nothing wilful here. It's just a stupid automatic translation, and Hanlon's razor applies. — Chrisahn (talk) 00:22, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

Love Will Tear Us Apart is not a song about physical violence. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 08:55, 29 May 2026 (UTC)

you're tearing me apart, Lisa. ~2026-32998-31 (talk) 09:54, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

"the archive version of the interview is not representing the full version"

Then can you elaborate on what is the full version of the story, and what exactly is misleading? Setarip (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 May 2026

Change all links to "List of The Boys characters#The Frenchman" to "The Frenchman (The Boys character)", in three places: the first paragraph, the "Career" subsection, and the "Filmography" subsection. ~2026-27053-34 (talk) 17:11, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done DiscoursesonLivvy (talk · contribs) 19:57, 4 May 2026 (UTC)

Concerns regarding WP:BLP and undue weight in “Military service” section

I would like to request a review of the current “Military service” section under Wikipedia’s policies regarding biographies of living persons (WP:BLP) and undue weight (WP:UNDUE).

The current wording appears to rely in part on paraphrasing and secondary interpretations of a 2016 interview that is no longer publicly accessible in full. As written, the section gives substantial prominence to controversial and emotionally charged details whose original context may be difficult to verify.

In its current form, the section appears to receive disproportionate weight relative to the subject’s broader biography and career, including internationally recognized acting work, awards, and artistic contributions. Certain highly specific anecdotal details may also raise concerns regarding proportionality and contextual balance for a living person biography.

I would propose replacing the current wording with a shorter and more neutral summary that acknowledges military service without emphasizing disputed or potentially inflammatory details. A more concise version would better align with Wikipedia’s standards regarding neutrality, due weight, and responsible sourcing for biographies of living persons.

I welcome input from other editors regarding possible revisions that would better balance verifiability, context, and proportionality. ~2026-28986-03 (talk) 13:29, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

Regarding verifiability, see #Urgent edit request – removal of unsourced and harmful content (BLP) above. — Chrisahn (talk) 13:33, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

After the Boys

"After The Boys (2026–present) Capone was cast as Billy Bones in the MGM+/Paramount adaptation."

Can we "of Treasure Island" to this sentence since it is not clear what the adaptation is of? Germmanator (talk) 02:04, 22 May 2026 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 May 2026

Remove link in reference 27, it leads to Panen77, an Indonesian gambling website rather than further information about NoHostageLeftBehind. ~2026-31659-28 (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done /usr/bin/owuh $ (💬 | she/they) 14:26, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Several versions of the page are available on archive.org. In such cases, we simply link to an archived version and set url-status=usurped to suppress the link to the live URL. — Chrisahn (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 3 July 2026 filmography

Description of suggested change: The TV movie Der Tel-Aviv-Krimi should also show the English title: Sara Stein: Jewels in the Grave.

Diff: Warning Unnamed parameter |1= set to default value. Please change it. Failure to use {{Text diff}} to specify your requested text changes, if not adequately described above, may lead to your request being denied.
~2026-31734-30 (talk) 03:14, 3 July 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 16:10, 5 July 2026 (UTC)

Second Ynet article

Capone gave an interview with Ynet a couple of weeks ago. https://www.ynet.co.il/entertainment/article/yokra14809723

The whole article can be read via archive.md but I can't link to it here. If people want, I can find a creative way to post it here.

The article is in Hebrew and mine isn't good enough to read it so I translated it.

The headline is: "It's enough that I served in the IDF to turn headlines into completely false, delusional headlines, and simply spread them."

This quote comes from: "There was a planned and timed attack, specific things. They took all sorts of things I said, and it's enough that I served in the IDF to turn headlines into false, manipulative, completely delusional, and just spread them."

Given what he himself wrote about on this very talk page and now this interview, is this grounds for removing that section vis a vis WP:BLPREMOVE?

How should we proceed? Should I take this to the BLP noticeboard? PlainJane91 (talk) 17:39, 9 July 2026 (UTC)

Based on the lack of response here but also what WP:BLP says, I'm going to remove the information about his service based on the first ynet article. For those unsure of what it says: Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion

Also

it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives; the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment. This policy applies to any living person mentioned in a BLP, whether or not that person is the subject of the article, and to material about living persons in other articles and on other pages, including talk pages. The burden of evidence rests with the editor who adds or restores the material.

If people want to litigate this after the fact and have a discussion we should do so but the policy seems black and white here. PlainJane91 (talk) 05:58, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I reverted your removal. We discussed this before. I don't see any significant new information. Regarding "the policy seems black and white here", I don't know what you mean. You cite "material ... that is unsourced or poorly sourced", but the content you removed is sourced just fine. You cite "the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered". That's what we did. The accounts claiming to be Capone (without providing evidence, even after several users asked for it and explained how to do it) said the content was harmful but didn't really explain what's harmful or misleading about it. The section about his military service has been through several revisions. The version you removed represented the sources in a neutral way and wasn't "sensationalist" or "titillating". — Chrisahn (talk) 07:23, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Chrisahn

The new information is the new Ynet interview where he says: There was a planned and timed attack, specific things. They took all sorts of things I said, and it's enough that I served in the IDF to turn headlines into false, manipulative, completely delusional, and just spread them.

which is consistent with what the person claiming to be him said above This content is inaccurate, misleading, and presented without reliable, verifiable sourcing, particularly regarding the more serious claims and framing.

If he is claiming and saying, then isn't adding the contrary here WP:NOR

Im guessing the line Aspects of Capone's IDF service, such as the arrest of an 18-year-old Palestinian woman, were criticised is also part of the piile on he's referring to. PlainJane91 (talk) 10:10, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

It sometimes happens that an editor claims (or proves – there are processes, see e.g. User talk:Tomer capone) to be the subject of an article. It also sometimes happens that the person doesn't like what's written in the article. But of course, that doesn't mean we have to do what they want. We generally don't really care whether the people we write about like what we say. We write what the sources say. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of stuff in our articles about Donald Trump, Elon Musk or Mojtaba Khamenei that they don't like, but we don't care. And we treat Capone the same way. Also, the editor who claimed to be Capone said "misleading" etc., but never explained what's misleading, even when asked. What do you think? Is there anything in our current text about his military service that misrepresents the sources or is misleading or sensational? If yes, which parts specifically and what changes would you suggest? — Chrisahn (talk) 10:33, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

@Chrisahn I like that we're discussing this :)

This is what Wikipedia should be a collaborative project where there is healthy back and forth to find an end goal all are ok with. So thank you for doing this - it's quite refreshing! I've never really experienced it before.

You are 100% correct - the fact that there's something about someone that they don't like isn't reason to remove it, it's reason for it to stay!

He claims he's somewhat the victim of a smear campaign.

Is the campaign that he was in the Israeli military. No. No one disputes this.

From what I understand, the 2016 article resurfaced as the means for the smear campaign whereby information about his service was mistranslated/taken out of context.

If we removed the last sentencce as kept it as Capone also discussed his military service in a 2016 interview with Ynet. He said he participated in arrests, checkpoint enforcement, and security operations, including during the Gaza disengagement and in Nablus. Toward the end of his service, accumulated exposure to violence culminated in a mental breakdown.

I'm not sure how he has a problem with this and if he does I guess it would up to him to explain why its misleading.

What do you think? PlainJane91 (talk) 10:42, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

If I understand correctly, you suggest that we delete the following sentence: "Aspects of Capone's IDF service, such as the arrest of an 18-year-old Palestinian woman, were criticised." Our current source for the sentence is Middle East Eye. The source may be somewhat biased, but I'm pretty sure it meets the criteria of WP:RS. When I do a Google news search for "Tomer Capone" with settings English, United States, past year, four of the ten results on the first page have the controversy about his military service in the headline, including the top result. The sources are Bored Panda (via aol.com), Middle East Eye, The Express Tribune, and The Tab. None of them are as impactful as, say, the New York Times or CNN, but they're prominent enough to have Wikipedia articles about them. I'd say the controversy has been reported widely enough to warrant our sentence about it. As I said before, I'm sure a lot of what people said on "social" media about his military service is exaggerated, distorted and hateful, and it's perfectly understandable if he's frustrated or angry. But we write what the sources say, and we do so in a neutral way. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:14, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

But this is his point which he conveys in the more recent interview - that he's the victim of a smear campaign.

If something has been reported widely enough due to an orchestrated smear campaign it should stay on the article? PlainJane91 (talk) 11:29, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't see any evidence that these four sources collaborated in a smear campaign. I think it's extremely unlikely. Also, as far as I can tell, it's unclear what he meant by "smear campaign". I guess he meant stuff on "social" media. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:34, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

What is meant by smear campaign is that something is planted, amplified by social media; lower level news sites pick it up followed by other media outlets picking it up ie Bored Panda, Express Tribune, etc PlainJane91 (talk) 11:44, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

But that happens all the time: People on "social" media discuss something (often in exaggerated and polarized ways), proper media pick it up and report it (hopefully in a more neutral and factual way). We mention such developments in lots of articles, and that's reasonable. I don't see a good reason why we should treat this case differently. As I said, it's understandable if Capone strongly dislikes this whole thing and calls it a smear campaign (does he have sufficient evidence for his claim?), but that's not a deciding factor for us. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:54, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I have to run and probably won't have time to respond again today. Hopefully, others will join this discussion. — Chrisahn (talk) 11:56, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

So what is a deciding factor for us? PlainJane91 (talk) 12:18, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Sources. — Chrisahn (talk) 12:48, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

ok i really don't have the bandwidth to discuss this further. Unfortunately don't feel like it's going anywhere. Nothing against you. Jut seems like there is an impasse. Any suggestions? PlainJane91 (talk) 12:49, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

As I said, I hope others will join the discussion. That's usually the best way to move something like this forward. Maybe you can speed things up a bit if you go to WP:3O, but there's no guarantee anyone will respond. — Chrisahn (talk) 12:52, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Ok. What about the BLP noticeboard? PlainJane91 (talk) 12:53, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I don't think I've ever taken part in discussions there, but had a quick look. Seems like a reasonable option as well. In general, just read the notes at the top of such pages; they usually tell you what the page is and isn't for. In this case, the page seems to fit. Feel free to start a discussion there. As I said, I probably won't have time today (I really should be doing other stuff), but I'm not important, and there's no hurry. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 13:00, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. Thank you for your patience and your great advice! PlainJane91 (talk) 13:07, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

@Chrisahn Im actually in the middle of finalizing a huge Wiki project I'd first like to finish. When that's done I may get back to this depending on how im feeling. PlainJane91 (talk) 08:00, 13 July 2026 (UTC)