Talk:Title case

There seem to two places title case is discussed - Letter case#Case styles and Capitalization#Title case. The page currently redirects to the former - what do people think? --IslandHopper 973 10:34, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Examples?

Could there be at least one example that shows what this is about? - preferably two or three. --User:Haraldmmueller 14:06, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

English as a worldwide language?

All the cited style guides seem to be American, even if some have a wider use. Perhaps guides from other English-speaking countries could be added? FloweringOctopus (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2022 (UTC) FloweringOctopus (talk) 13:41, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

It's really an American thing. Newspapers in other anglophone countries don't use headlines and titles with these weird uppercase letters sprinkled everywhere. Indeed, Wikipedia doesn't. The article doesn't make this clear. --Ef80 (talk) 11:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

I've noticed that quite some American newspapers and other media outlets don't use uppercase headlines either. E.g. the websites of the Washington Post, or CNN. Maybe it would be helpful to add an extra section on how widespread this usage is, where title cases are (or should be) used and where they are not. Especially to non-native speaking users of English Wikipedia, this is not exactly obvious. -- 141.48.36.103 (talk) 18:59, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Update "Chicago Manual of Style"?

Rules in the later 16th edition (8.157) are slightly different (e.g., second part of species name always lowercase, even at the end). Update, ideally to what the latest 17th edition says (which I don’t have)? 134.102.230.249 (talk) 15:12, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

MLA, hyphenated words: clarification needed

"*Capitalize all major words..., including the second part of hyphenated major words (e.g., Self-Report not Self-report).

"*Lowercase the second word after a hyphenated prefix... in compound modifiers (e.g., Mid-year, Anti-hero, etc.)."

The distinction is not obvious to non-grammarians: why is the prefix seen as part of the verb or noun in case 1, rendering BOTH parts as one single "major word", but not in case 2? Why Self-Report but Mid-year? Not clear IMO in current explanation, the distinction should be explained in a way one can easily understand and apply. Thanks! Arminden (talk) 10:11, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Capitalization of with in AMA

According to https://titlecaseconverter.com/ "with" is capitalized in AMA, while the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_case claims the opposite. Which is correct? 89.113.157.188 (talk) 17:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

The text of the article is currently (in 2025) correct and consistent with both the AMA style guide and titlecaseconverter.com: "Lowercase articles (a, an, the), coordinating conjunctions, and prepositions of three letters or fewer." Since "with" contains four letters, it should be "With" in title case. Twocs (talk) 03:18, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion for a supplementary resource covering 2024 style standards

Hi everyone,

I’ve been studying the current article and the detailed breakdown of the various house styles. It’s an excellent reference, but I noticed a small practical gap that readers often run into: applying the latest 2024 updates to The Chicago Manual of Style (18th Edition) and the specific treatment of infinitives in AP Style.

Since the rules for long prepositions and "to" in infinitives vary so much between guides (as correctly noted in our article), it can be difficult for students or editors to visualize these nuances in real-time.

I’ve put together a resource that I believe would be a valuable addition to the "External Links" section: Title Case Converter & 2024 Style Guide.

What makes this a useful supplement is that it provides a side-by-side comparative analysis updated for the latest standards, alongside an interactive tool that implements these specific rules. It’s essentially a practical extension of the linguistic principles we’ve documented here.

I’m not a frequent contributor to this page, so I wanted to propose this to the community first. Do you think this would be a helpful resource for readers who come here looking for a way to apply these complex style rules?

Best regards, Sathwara Dev (talk) 09:17, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

After reviewing the article further, I've noticed a technical gap regarding the 'Verb-Particle' distinction in phrasal verbs (e.g., why 'In' is capitalized in 'Log In' but not in 'In the Room'). I have documented the specific linguistic logic for this, along with the 2024 Chicago 18th Edition standards, on my resource page. Instead of a general external link, I propose citing this as a Technical Reference for the Phrasal Verbs and CMOS 18th Ed. sections, as it provides a practical verification of these complex rules. Sathwara Dev (talk) 05:09, 26 April 2026 (UTC)