Talk:Thirty Seconds to Mars

Band Name

The current text describes the band name as coming from a rare manuscript. That seems to be utter nonsense based on a quick Google search, which returns references to its being made-up. The Google hits that do refer to it all read like a Snopes example of urban myth: well there was some highly respected person, so a professor, at some famous place you have heard of, so Harvard, who had a manuscript but it was special and, umm, really rare so that's why only really privileged people know about it. The author is never named, the time period is never acknowledged, the central thesis or purpose is unlisted, the proposed title would be far too short for a scholarly work, and so on. (How in the world would a document from a modern college become a 'rare manuscript' with no documented copies?) Just because the notoriously unreliable Jaret Leto says it is real, does not make it so. Can someone fix this made-up, not-credibly-documented nonsense from propagating in Wikipedia? 24.224.227.214 (talk) 16:46, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

There is a chance that it is a reference to '30 seconds to Marshalls', the clothing store that sells other companies 'seconds'. 178.212.120.77 (talk) 15:00, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Is or are

@209899Geovanni: This article's subject is an American band, and in American English collective nouns such as bands are treated as singular in regards to is/are, compared to the British English convention of treating them as plural in regards to is/are (see for example the American style guide MLA, Grammarly, and a Britannica "Ask the Editor" answer). This is reflected on Wikipedia, and seen in featured articles which go through a rigorous review process, such as the British band U2 (plural) and the American band Metallica (singular). Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that helps determine which variant of English to use, usually retaining the existing convention unless the subject has strong national ties that would warrant a change, but that should be done through consensus on the talk page first. As an American band this article's subject has no strong national ties to any countries that use British English, so the existing convention (American English) should be retained. If you believe the article should be changed, please use the talk page and obtain a consensus for those preferred changes before continuing to attempt to change the article further. Thank you. - Aoidh (talk) 05:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

"Tstm" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Tstm has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 5 § Tstm until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)