Talk:Tatian

Land of the Assyrians

A quotation stating that Tatian said about himself that he was born in the land of the Assyrians, doesn't make him an Assyrian. He himself is called a Syrian by a couple of authors. I suggest we use that term, or leave it out altogether. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 01:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

There is a general confusion between the names Syrian and Assyrian, and some early writers obviously use them interchangably. It may be safer to say that Tatian was from the Roman province of Assyria. As for the Greek and Roman writers, anyone who lived east of Cappadocia and could eat with his mouth closed could be called a Syrian! — Gareth Hughes 12:53, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I would have liked to have seen, after the quotation which reads was born in "the land of the Assyrians", something like (probably present day south-west Turkiye) or (probably present day northern Syria) or (probably present day Lebanon), ie, an explanation of what someone writing in the second century would mean when they said "the land of the Assyrians". I don't know how speculative that would have to be, and I realise that he may not have meant the same area as his readers, or may have been lying, but as it is at present, it's very vague. Nick Barnett (talk) 11:44, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

Syrian is Assyrian, that's what the Greeks called Assyrian, the native name is "Ashurian" but the greeks could not pronounce the 'sh' and it got replace with 'ss' and the 'A' got droped, it was sated by herodotus.

Ashurian: The original name Assurian: Greek name discribing the Ashurian Assurious: another greek name Syrian: when "A" got droped

anything before wwi where it mention Syrian they mean Assyrian (Ashurian or Ashuri). --165.196.104.100 03:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism??

I just reverted Chaldean's reversion of an edit which he claimed to be vandalism. It appears to be sourced, so why would this be vandalism? Because it doesn't comply with your views? --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 15:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

And I just reverted your edits. It is Aramean motivated as seen in the previous edits of that IP. He is an Assyrian, and you can't change history. You can't have the page contricting its self. He is even known as Tatian the Assyrian, so stop with your sillyness. Chaldean 16:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, his/her previous edits appear to have been in good faith and properly sourced, so qualifying the latest edits

By the way, I still have found no source where he calls himself an "Assyrian". It is only mentioned that he was born in "land of the Assyrians". --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 11:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Nice try. He also know as [Tatian the Assyrian]. Benne I know its hard for you to accept anything Assyrian, but you simply can't change history. However, you can do that in the dutch or german pages if you like. Chaldean 14:24, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Image of John being used

The image included in this article is of John, not Tatian. It says so clearly in Syriac above his head. Someone seems to have lifted the image from a popular website that didn't make the direct claim that it was of Tatian. Anyway, it's wrong and misleading. We could leave it in with a caption saying that it's of John, but that seems a little pointless. I left a message on the original image's description page, pointing out the error. — Gareth Hughes (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2010 (UTC)