Talk:Sumo

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Mongolian sumo

Doesn't have a ring. Bout ends when one of the fighters falls.

This article, it seems represents only japanesse sumo. It would be good to expand it because the most succesful sumo wrestler in history is a mongolian. 213.149.61.151 (talk) 16:50, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Presumably you’re referring to Mongolian wrestling? That is a separate sport and I don’t think it needs to be mentioned in this article. Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

@Pawnkingthree Haiwain wrestling is sumu too ! 79.144.194.12 (talk) 21:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Sumo is popular in Hawaii, yes. Again, don't know if it needs a special mention. Pawnkingthree (talk) 18:43, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

History clarification

"Takeminakata was the ruler of the common people and Takeminakata was the god of wind, water and agriculture. Takeminakata challenged Takeminakata for his land."

Something wrong here. Scott Sherard (talk) 02:11, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

fixed. Tigerboy1966  09:56, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

'Grand Sumo Tournament Event' in the Sport Calendar on the mainpage

hello Sumo Fans, please help, someone (‎Greatminton) delete the 'Grand Sumo Tournament Event' in the sport calendar on the mainpage under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events/Sports. he means - non-notable. - maybe 'vandalism'. he only will see sports he like. - ====Sumo==== *Nov 13–28: Grand Sumo Tournament Kyūshū Basho in Fukuoka Kokusai Center, Japan - ... thanks, Sumo-Sport (talk) 21:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@Sumo-Sport You're referring to Portal:Current events/Sports/Sidebar? I have little to no knowledge of the Current Events portal. I see Greatminton removed the Kyushu basho as it doesn't have its own dedicated article. The six honbasho are of course notable in sumo terms, but we don't have separate articles for them. Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

First of all, I only commented out it, not erasing it. Second, the link you provided did not directly point to the event you said, so I fixed it. You want me to put it back? Fine. Don't whine. Greatminton (talk) 02:59, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Life expectancy

The article said "Sumo wrestlers have a life expectancy between 60 and 65, more than 20 years shorter than the average Japanese male". No source was cited for that sentence – only for the paragraph as a whole. In contrast, the first source cited for the paragraph says "Sumo wrestlers have a life expectancy of 65, 10 years less than the average Japanese male." Relative to what that source says, the Wikipedia article is lowering the life expectancy of the wrestlers by a couple of years and is doubling the difference with the life expectancy of the general population. The second source cited for the paragraph appears to say nothing about sumo wrestlers – it is just general population statistics – so its connection to sumo wrestlers appears to be WP:original research. (I did not study its content to see whether it supports the idea that men in the general population have a life expectancy of 85 or more – but I note that there are issues with performing such actuarial comparisons ourselves, such as what age should be the starting point for the life expectancy comparison and survivorship bias.) Three more sources were just added a few hours ago in this edit. Two of them are in Japanese, so I don't know what they say. The third one is a letter to the editor, and thus may be somewhat of an WP:OP-ED or WP:PRIMARY source (and perhaps not especially reliable – e.g. the third sentence of the article is grammatically incorrect and the fifth sentence has a misspelling of "study" as "studie"). It also does not seem relevant to the statement that I quoted, as it does not say what is the life expectancy of sumo wrestlers and does not talk about the relationship of their life expectancy to that of the general population. I suggest that the article appeared to be exaggerating what the sources say – at least what the sources that were cited more than a few hours ago would properly support. There is a big difference between 10 years and more than 20 years, and there is also a difference between 65 and the range from 60 to 65. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 17:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I was looking for sources for this claim, and there appear to have been very few scientific studies done on the mortality of sumo wrestlers. My reason for adding the sources is that they supported the claim that higher body mass was associated with increased mortality. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:16, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Sumu wrestling in other countries

An article about its progress in other countries other than Japan 79.144.194.12 (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Sumotori

I added the word sumotori to the lead but was reverted (diff) with the comment "The term "sumotori" is archaic, and mention of it belongs in the article, just not in the lead... nobody uses the term any more". However, because the word is used in the body of the article without any definition or link and I didn't know what it meant, I researched and added the synonym to the lead. I do not re-revert so will leave it to others to decide what, if anything, should be done. Thincat (talk) 11:47, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

"SuMo" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect SuMo has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 22 § SuMo until a consensus is reached. consarn _{(talk beige) (count ribs)} 19:03, 22 September 2026 (UTC)