Talk:Stargate LLC

Musk claims they don't have the funding

"They don’t actually have the money" https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1881923570458304780

"SoftBank has well under $10B secured. I have that on good authority." https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1881944244480565497

Sam Altman responded obliquely: “wrong, as you surely know” https://www.ft.com/content/b2899d25-9b16-461d-b406-89cfcadf3afc https://x.com/sama/status/1882106524090482701

Microsoft CEO responds: "All I know is I'm good for my $80 Billion." https://x.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1882084577147228455 (CNBC)

Christiaan (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Elon Musk is not part of the project, so his claims are just opinions and not fact-based. Sam Altman, who is directly involved in the project, provides more credible insights. Ryan York (talk) 02:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Microsoft is not part of the project. StockMKTNewz on Twitter is not a WP:RS source. Sources cited in the article say that "the project’s key equity funders are SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, and MGX, with SoftBank having financial responsibility and OpenAI having operational responsibility. The key initial technology partners are Arm, Microsoft, Nvidia, Oracle, and OpenAI." No Elon Musk. no Microsoft. Ryan York is correct.--FeralOink (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Sam Altman and multiple sources cited in the article already say that the initial funding is $100 billion with possible additional funding of another $400 billion by 2029. I'm going to clarify that, as most of the headlines of sources are misleading, while the bodies of the sources are more detailed.--FeralOink (talk) 16:14, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Computation Power ?

How big computation power is ESTIMATED ? ( with planned mileStones ) 88.80.224.229 (talk) 01:38, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

I wonder how the power supply works. The nearby substation Abilene Northwest is connected to the 138 kV grid. One can see the new substation for the construction site in a bluish tone next to the existing one on this satellite image. The next 345 kV substation is a few klicks to the Northwest: are there any plans published by the grid operator to expand this facility and the overhead line to the data center site?

The same is applies for on-site power. For the 10 smaller gas turbines as well for a CCGT power plant with higher efficiency you need a gas pipeline. What is the capacity of the nearest transmission line that serves Abilene?

Finally, "OpenAI and Oracle are expected to deploy 64,000 Nvidia GB200s at the Stargate data center in Abilene, Texas by the end of 2026." , that's less than 1000 GB200 NVL72 racks with 72 GPUs and a power consumption of ~130 kW per rack. . Obviously the cooling including the fans for the cooling cells needs some power, so the power consumption of 200 MW for phase 1 sounds reasonable, but does this mean the first two buildings with 4 server halls will only host a little more than 100 racks per hall? Or will other equipment be installed as well, which consumes less power than the GPUs? --Gunnar (talk) 12:30, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Article title is insufficiently distinct

The project doesn't meet criteria for including a definite article in a title. OpenAI's announcement mostly refers to it as "Stargate" without any care to emphasize the article, and news reports show no consistency in capitalizing it or otherwise normalizing the name. As such, the titles of this article and the one about the US military project do not effectively identify the subjects. And notwithstanding the presidential endorsement and the millenarian PR, there is no guarantee that this project will show much impact on the world 5 years from now. AI promoters can't help but write blank checks on themselves. 2601:642:4F84:1590:C060:68F7:6C2A:1CE2 (talk) 08:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it is sufficiently distinct. Seems like you're questioning the notability of the article as much as the name. It doesn't matter if in the future, this project doesn't have impact on the world. It is sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. If there are multiple instances of "The Stargate Project" we can deal with that a using disambiguation page.--FeralOink (talk) 15:50, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirects

This page needs redirects as it took someone like me 10 minutes to find it through disambiguation, maybe something like Project Stargate 2025 would be good. X4VIER.OneTap (talk) 12:22, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Hyperbole usefulness

Even though sources were used to include a comparison to the Manhattan Project, is that comparison really needed in the article? For one, it seems at least one of the sources may be using the comparison as a pejorative, but mostly because the comparison adds nothing to describing the project while giving an unfounded sense of it's importance. 141.246.2.80 (talk) 13:49, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

A more thorough check is needed

There are many claims in the article below that contradicts the Wikipedia article.

I did not edit anything (yet) because I believe this needs some further checking of sources:

https://www.wheresyoured.at/softbank-openai/ Mariusm98 (talk) 20:48, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your verification, just be aware that the article you linked is self-published and shouldn't be used as a reference in Wikipedia. It's ok to mention it in the talk page, but if you want to modify the article, it must be based on reliable sources, for example Reuters. Alenoach (talk) 05:56, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

No funds

If no funds have been raised, how can the project already be building data centres? Are the builders working for free? Furius (talk) 21:28, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

It's messy, but if I understand correctly, the construction of data centers in Texas is not funded by Stargate LLC (which doesn't appear to be formed yet), although it may e.g. have been intended to be bought by Stargate LLC. Seems like the funding mentioned in the history section was funding that is pledged but not yet raised. Alenoach (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

In that case, it seems to me that putting this fact about funding baldly in the lead gives the wrong impression (i.e. that nothing has happened) Furius (talk) 15:47, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

I agree this is confusing and needs some rework. Alenoach (talk) 16:01, 14 September 2025 (UTC)

Add a section on relationship with memory shortage?

I was thinking of adding a section about how stargate contributes to the memory shortage. More info at: AI data center#Global memory supply shortage

In October 2025, OpenAI formally announced a strategic partnership using letters of intent with Samsung Electronics and SK Hynix to secure supply for its Stargate Project AI infrastructure. Reports indicated that the Stargate initiative alone would consume up to 40% of global DRAM output, requiring approximately 900,000 wafers per month. The deal involved the supply of undiced wafers rather than packaged chips to streamline logistics for the massive data center build-out.

What do you think? Good or bad idea?   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 14:19, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Looks good to mention, though maybe a full section on it would be too much, so I suggest adding it to "Infrastructure development and partnerships". Alenoach (talk) 20:07, 13 June 2026 (UTC)

Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 14:19, 13 June 2026 (UTC)