Talk:Spinning frame

Proposal for deletion

There simply isn't such a thing. See Cotton-spinning machinery to get an overview. Please discuss. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes there is such a thing and it's mentioned here:

And so, altough the first of the famous series of inventions that transformed the textile industry-both the fly-shuttle of Kay (1733) and the spinning frame of Wyatt and Paul (1738)- were designed for the manufacture of wool, the requirements of technology and the logic of economic situation ruled otherwise.Landes & year-1969, pp. 84

Landes, David. S. (1969). The Unbound Prometheus: Technological Change and Industrial Development in Western Europe from 1750 to the Present. Cambridge, New York: Press Syndicate of the University of Cambridge. p. 84. ISBN 0-521-09418-6. By the way, this is one of the most widely cited references on the history of industrialization.Phmoreno (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Influence from the east

I have reverted all your excellent text- because causuality cannot be proved. 0-262-66072-5 Pacey 1989 Technology in world civilisation. Discusses many of these points but concludes that the copies of the mediaeval text mistranslated and mis labelled key diagrams.

• Grave doubt whether the the term spinning frame is correct or ever used. See note above
• The illustration in Wang Zhens book is conjectural- but shows a silk reeling frame. Follows the description of a 1090 device described (Needham vol 4 p107)
• Reeling is the last process- one needs to show evidence of mechanised twisting
• No evidence of the use of cams and gears before 1200- making a spinning frame impossible to construct
• If we were to have technology transfer through India we should see prototype spinning wheels there before 1350. None. They spun using the chakra- word of Iranian roots. The first reference to spinning wheel in China was in 1270, and in Europe 1280 and in Bagdad in 1237.
• I have a reference to undershot water wheels in 990, but unlikely to have beem influenced vy Vituvius (?410)
• Over 150 years there has been a concerted campaign to deprive James Hargreaves of the credit for his invention and this has been extensively researched

Can you rephrase and write a small article on Chinese Textile Technology? --ClemRutter (talk) 11:14, 16 February 2012 (UTC)