Talk:South Atlantic tropical cyclone
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[edit]Brazilian Navy Hydrographic Center:
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Tropical storm Akará deserves an article
[edit]Do you think it's a good idea to Akara your own article?
Splitting off List of South Atlantic tropical and subtropical cyclones?
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This article isn't especially long, but the South Atlantic is in the process of becoming an actual basin. This is evidenced by the naming list, the regular advisories, and this document I came across today - - the Integrated Center for Aeronautical Meteorology is set to become a Tropical Cyclone Advisory Centre in December 2026, so I could see the weather agency getting an article too. Either way, the South Atlantic is about to become a lot more formal of a weather basin, and having a separate list could be useful. I would keep the naming list on here, which would link to each named storm, while keeping Catarina and any other significant storms in the main article (perhaps as a part of climatology/impacts). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:12, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- Before I publish, does anyone have any feedback about how the list should be formatted? For example, should every storm get a bullet point, or an infobox? What should the intro be? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:08, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I agree that including an infobox for every storm is beneficial; however, I’m unsure how the introduction should be. 🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 01:37, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think that the way the current article is formatted is the best way, i.e. having infoboxes only for the notable systems. I think that we'll have a hard time finding info on older ones, which are on the "Other systems" section, to justify infoboxes for them too. ABC paulista (talk) 02:25, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- True. 🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 02:28, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- As for the lead, maybe we should adopt a similar wording as used in the List of Pacific typhoons before 1850, for example. ABC paulista (talk) 02:33, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with this, however I am still opposed to Catarina not having an Infobox. I dont see a reason to not give it one, even if it is mentioned in the start of the article. Sria-72 (talk) 03:18, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- And also the 1991 storm should have an infobox. Sria-72 (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- By including the 1991 storm, you’re including non-notable cyclones. So infoboxes for everything then? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 03:48, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think the 1991 storm doesn't need an infobox.🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 03:55, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I think that the 1991 storm is pretty notable, for being the first one to be actively monitored by an agency and still being the only recorded on the eastern part of the basin. ABC paulista (talk) 20:53, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- The source for the track map looks questionable. I didn’t think there was any official best track for the storm. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:03, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I mean regardless of that, I think that the 1991 storm is notable enough because of its formation area to be listed with an infobox. Sria-72 (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Now I think the 1991 storm deserves an infobox. 🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 21:46, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- There isn't a official best track because no agency monitor the basin until 2011, but the NHC did report it back then. The "best track" seems to have been independently analyzed by a chilean meteorogist named Luís Muñoz, and some other tracks presented here also seem to have been done using his data. It seems to be a similar situation to Gary Padgett's, which also has some of his data used to generate some of the tracks used here. ABC paulista (talk) 21:28, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- I mean regardless of that, I think that the 1991 storm is notable enough because of its formation area to be listed with an infobox. Sria-72 (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- The source for the track map looks questionable. I didn’t think there was any official best track for the storm. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:03, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- By including the 1991 storm, you’re including non-notable cyclones. So infoboxes for everything then? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 03:48, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- And also the 1991 storm should have an infobox. Sria-72 (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- True. 🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 02:28, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
- Update - Draft:List of South Atlantic tropical and subtropical cyclones - here is a draft I made, copying all of the storms from the main article. Since there's pretty obvious support for such a split, one of the big questions is whether every system should get an infobox or not. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:26, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support - This seems like a sensible change, as it keeps the South Atlantic consistent with other tropical cyclone basins. 🌀Hurricane Jacob (talk) 21:05, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support - But I'd move the whole of the sections 3 and 4. I feel it'd be weird, and somewhat arbitrary, to move some systems while keeping others here.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ABC paulista (talk • contribs)
- Yes, absolutely. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:15, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support - Would you mind specifying what you mean by a “separate list”? Im for this, given that section 3 and 4 need some reworking and the aforementioned formality that the article should begin to have now with this likely becoming an official RSMC basin this December.
- ViridLeWiki (talk) 22:32, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- @ViridLeWiki: - we probably need to take sections 3 and 4 and make a new list, better reworked and properly formatted. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 06:52, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Support Why is catarina missing from the draft? Sria-72 (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- It’s the opening image, and it’s listed under 2000. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:56, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Why doesn't it have an infobox? Sria-72 (talk) 22:04, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Sria-72: as I said before, one of the big questions is whether every system should get an infobox or not. I already made Catarina the main image for the draft, and it has its own article, so an infobox is just going to add space. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- Why doesn't it have an infobox? Sria-72 (talk) 22:04, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- It’s the opening image, and it’s listed under 2000. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 21:56, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
Is the draft for the sub-articles ready?
[edit]Just checking if the draft for the list of all of the storms is ready. Also, what should remain in this article once the list is split off? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:08, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- I'd say it's near or about ready. I also added a decent amount of new information and gave a visual overhaul. OreoStar-fait (talk) 08:54, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
Done. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:23, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
- I was actually just reviewing the draft at the time of publication, coincidentally. Lol OreoStar-fait (talk) 20:24, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
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