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Latest comment: 7 months ago by Harryhenry1 in topic Man serpents

Merge Serpent people into this article

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This just seems the obvious thing to do... --Ant 10:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)Reply

I've got to agree. One needs to be merged with the other because it's really just a waste of links and space.

Merge Serpent-Men (comics) into this article

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Does the Marvel version of the same race really need its own page? There's a bit of difference in their origins, but that's just different continuities for you. Daibhid C (talk) 14:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Move discussion in progress

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Kull meeting the serpent men probably did abandon his wow of annihilation.

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In "Delcardes cat" king Kull meets and befriends a community of appaerently serpent men living under a lake, like the Nagas, wise and often good serpentbeings from indian mythology, arguably the source of inspiration for the serpent men. There he meets their version of the conflict between serpent men and "true men". A version where "true men" are a bunch of kill-crazy imperialists impossible to live with. In "The shadow kingdom" Brule admits that it was "true men" who were the aggressors, the elder races only defending themselves. Probably Kull did abandon his wow about a final solution of the serpent man question after this. Clearly the land that became Stygia was the last stronghold of the serpent men long after Kull. It was the white-skinned human conquerors from the east(perhaps ultimately from Mu in the eastern ocen) that destroyred the sepent men. Probably the bulk of the commoners of Stygia are scions of the human slaves or slave-races of the serpent men. Arguably the exchange of a non-human masterrace for an in-human one was nothing for these people to be happy or grateful about. The conquerors however slyly understood to play on this,turning it to their own advantage. Hence the cult of state of the construed godhead Set, probably inspired by the Serapis-cult, the political religion of state in ptolemaic,hellenistic, Egypt; basically a blending together of greek Hades(Styx!) and egyptian Osiris.  Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.198.216.242 (talk) 09:36, 2 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

Man serpents

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I've deleted mentions of man serpents and the supposed division between two groups of creations of Yig/Set. I'd be glad if any supporting references to such things actually being part of Howard's world view could be called up. to the best of my knowledge, the monster in The God in the Bowl was just an adaptation of a naga, not seen in any way as related to the Valusian serpent men. Svartalf (talk) 19:46, 10 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

It could be in one of the de Camp stories, either his own work or an edited Howard story. Or maybe it's lore added by one of the Marvel comics adaptations, Roy Thomas did love making lore connections after all. I think if it can be connected to a specific source I think it should still be included, since while I am a "Howard purist" (I don't own any of de Camp's own Conan stories or edited Howard material, hence why I can't check them for myself) it doesn't mean we need to erase contributions other authors have made. We just need to make clear what is and isn't from Howard's material. Harryhenry1 (talk) 07:22, 22 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
well, anything in works committed or altered by carter, de camp or their cronies (nyberg et al) is definitely non canon and should not even be mentioned. Svartalf (talk) 15:02, 27 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
What is or isn't canon in Conan isn't for Wikipedia to decide. We can still mention what's in those stories when it's appropriate, in a neutral way, without saying what is or isn't canon. Harryhenry1 (talk) 23:08, 27 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
As for stuff coming from the marvel works, it's related to the marvel continuity, and should stay there. Svartalf (talk) 15:04, 27 December 2025 (UTC)Reply