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Latest comment: 8 months ago by ~2025-36571-57 in topic Atom of Kirnberger

Ellis??

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Is the introduction of the modern meaning really due to Ellis?

Grove Music Online states in an unsigned article (s.v. schisma):

"In 19th- and 20th-century writings (for instance, P. Lichtenthal’s Dizionario e bibliografia della musica, Milan, 1826) it refers to the difference between the Pythagorean and syntonic commas...."

Ellis would have been about eight years old when Lichtenthal went to press.

Looking at the OED, it appears Ellis may have been merely the first to use the modern meaning in English.

This article also should mention that "schisma" was used before the 19th century to refer to various small intervals, but did not have a standard meaning. (Examples are cited in the Grove article.)

151.198.141.55 (talk) 05:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)Reply

Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small

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http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249

Possibly useful stuff here; Wikipedia is its only reference though. Melchoir (talk) 17:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Atom of Kirnberger

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It is not clear why Atom of Kirnberger redirects here, since that interval is not the same as the schisma (in fact, the atom is much smaller; it is the difference between a stack of eleven schismas and a syntonic comma). The atom should either have its own article or else there should be a clarification on this page explaining how the atom is related to the schisma but distinct from it.~2025-36571-57 (talk) 23:48, 27 November 2025 (UTC)Reply