Talk:Saudi riyal sign

Potential 'Good Article'

The Saudi riyal symbol (U+20C1 ⃁ SAUDI RIYAL SIGN) and the Iranian rial symbol (U+FDFC ﷼ RIAL SIGN) in Unicode

It looks to me that the article is fairly close to meeting the WP:good article standard (though it wouldn't make sense to nominate it before the symbol displays properly at least on Android, preferably iOS and Windows too).

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But the immediate problem is that in the image shown for the Iranian Rial in File:Currency symbols of the Saudi Riyal and the Iranian Rial.jpg, is not the same as the Unicode sample glyph for the grapheme. Although it is true that the Unicode Consortium doesn't mandate or even encourage implementors to slavishly copy the sample glyph (as the examples at euro sign show), the one illustrated is worryingly different, to the extent that it gives the impression of an intent to mislead. I am not at all suggesting that that is the case but it needs to be considered. As a minimum, the typeface (font) it comes from needs to be documented in the caption. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:12, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Am I right in guessing that the "Currency symbols of the ..." file does not actually contain the symbol that is actually encoded, but is actually the word ریال (rial). That is certainly deceptive and needs to change – so much so that I will now delete it from the article pending delivery of a replacement file that actually contains what it claims to contain. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 14:53, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Actually, the file shows the encoded symbol, but I used the Microsoft Sans Serif font. If you know Arabic, you’ll notice that the letters slightly overlap and the dots are a bit to the left, and that's because it’s a precomposed character.

The symbol is formed from a set of letters, so I don’t think it really has a unique shape. ARABCREATOR7 (talk) 18:35, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

Ah, ok, I'm seeing the Noto Arabic form, which is a lot more cursive than the Microsoft one. I can't believe I walked into that old gotcha! My apologies, I will revert the deletion. (Your suspicion was correct, I don't know Arabic.)

Yes, I agree, like every grapheme encoded in Unicode, there is no mandatory or unique shape for the corresponding glyphs, that's a type design decision (so I wonder if there will be stylistic variations for the Saudi riyal sign). 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:31, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

But what I don't understand in that case why the diff identified this as a real change, not just a presentation change:

• Comparison of the two symbols (⃁ – ریال) in Unicode
• Comparison of the two symbols (⃁ – ﷼) in Unicode

In both cases, the symbol in question should be U+FDFC and the font used to display it is irrelevant. The difference "engine" is looking at the underlying code, not the appearance. Have I missed something? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:39, 5 December 2025 (UTC)

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