Talk:Reza Pahlavi

Former crown prince

I was surprised the very first paragraph of the lead of this article didn't point out the fact that Pahlavi is the former crown prince of Iran. This is not at all tangential to his notability and we always describe important things like these usually in the first sentence.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 03:36, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

@Vice regent It seems to have been overlooked after the RM above succeeded in dropping the title from the article name. DiodotusNicator (talk) 06:45, 18 March 2026 (UTC)

And also, it should be included in the infobox. But is it possible to confirm the "end of term" of him as the crown prince? —— Eric Liu_{（Talk・Guestbook）} 08:56, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Well did his term end, or is the title just defunct? Slatersteven (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

Could it be de facto defunct at the same date with his father's reign as the Shah? —— Eric Liu_{（Talk・Guestbook）} 23:36, 25 March 2026 (UTC)

Looking for some examples:

Rupprecht, Crown Prince of Bavaria: "last heir apparent"

Wilhelm, German Crown Prince: "the last German Crown Prince and Crown Prince of Prussia, until the abolition of the monarchy."

Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece (still alive): "former heir apparent to the defunct throne of Greece […] was Crown Prince of Greece and heir apparent to the Greek throne from birth until the monarchy's abolition."

Hasan as-Senussi: "was the Crown Prince of the Kingdom of Libya from 1956 to 1969, when the Libyan coup d'état resulted in the monarchy being abolished."

The consensus appears to be that the position becomes defunct. Braganza (talk) 17:40, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to make this discussion a sort of "pinned post" so that it doesn't disappear into the archives? Or note it somehow so that it can easily be referred back to? It keeps coming up, over and over, whether or not he should be noted as the Crown Prince, particularly in the info box. Ghost writer's cat (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Empirical Research and Forecasting Institute

This organization does not seem very credible. The statements related to "ERF.I" seem to try to paint a picture of credibility by making irrelevant or false statements:

"established by Taghi Alereza, Houshang Lahooti and Noah Farhadi"

Why is it relevant to know who it was established by? These are not noteworthy people, nor do they appear to be "experts in the field [of data analytics and socioeconomic affairs]" as claimed in one of the cited sources at https://kayhanlife.com/authors/survey-by-us-based-institute-shows-iranians-support-reza-pahlavi/

"Berlin-based"

No info on any relation to Berlin can be found. The X page mentions Australia, which is where Houshang Lahooti also appears to reside.

Their X page seems to be more focused on promoting Reza Pahlavi, instead of doing research or forecasting. This wikipedia page earlier described the institute as pro-Pahlavi, but that mention was removed yesterday on 25 April 2026.

"The ERF.I poll result was cited by the conservative American think-tank Middle East Forum as an argument against "hesitation" in American government circles over backing efforts to restore the Iranian monarchy."

Like mentioning the founders, this seems to only be included to raise the credibility of the institute based on a mention in one news article, but IMO this is not noteworthy enough to be included.

The results of the poll are available at https://isdmovement.com/2023/0323/030623/030623-erfi_stance_politics_e.pdf

The poll shows Ali Khamenei as having a support of 0.6%, which seems oddly low to an outsider, and is much lower than the result from another poll cited on this page from GAMAAN, which shows 15% support for the Islamic Regime, with 81% opposing

Even ignoring the difficulty of gathering statistically representative data from a country such as Iran, it is hard for me to know whether these results should be taken seriously enough to include in Wikipedia. ~2026-25579-75 (talk) 11:08, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

Take it to wp:rsn. Slatersteven (talk) 11:23, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

WP:NOTNEWS

I find the following to have a WP:NOTNEWS problem:

• In February 2025, in an interview with The Daily Telegraph, Pahlavi called on Europe and Americans to prepare for the impending collapse of the regime in Tehran.

• During the Twelve-Day War in June 2025, following the Iranian blackout of the internet, Pahlavi said the blackout "is a sign of panic, not strength." Pahlavi said in the same interview he viewed the destruction of Iran's military infrastructure and possessions, such as airbases and fighter jets as a loss. Pahlavi said that the war was not that of the Iranian people but Khamenei's war and that it was the Iranian people who were paying the price.

• Reza Pahlavi condemned this decision as "a betrayal of the Iranian people and the democratic values of Germany," stating, "the German government has not only silenced the voice of the Iranian people but has also directly aligned itself with the Islamic Republic."

• He said that the Iranian people were ready to "fight the fight" to end the Islamic Republic, adding that ongoing strikes against the government provided what he described as a "real opportunity" for Iranians, as they could now see the possible end of the regime.

• On 11 March, Pahlavi told Iranians to stay home and continue the daily rooftop chants until he gives the "final call" to overthrow the government. On 14 March, Pahlavi called for underground resistance groups to intensify their fight against the Iranian government, while advising most Iranians to continue to stay home for now.

• Also on 15 March, Pahlavi stated that the transition government under his leadership is ready to take control over Iran when the government falls, setting five economic goals for a post-Islamic Republic Iran.

• On 5 April, Pahlavi called on the IRGC to step down before the US targets Iranian infrastructure, saying that they are going to fall regardless, and that they should step down in order to preserve infrastructure.

• On 9 April, at the beginning of the 2026 Iran war ceasefire, Pahlavi advised Iranians to exercise patience, noting that the Iranian people will need to deliver the 'final blow' to the Iranian government.

• On 13 April, Pahlavi expressed disappointment in European countries for appeasing the Iranian government, which in his view supports terrorism and commits crimes against humanity. On 23 April, he was splashed with red liquid after leaving a press conference in Berlin in which he criticized the ceasefire between Iran and the U.S.

• Reza Pahlavi and the Iranian opposition have called for democratic countries to support the Iranian opposition's efforts in removing the Islamic regime and establishing a secular democracy in Iran. Pahlavi says that he and the opposition are representatives of the Iranian democracy movement whose activists are jailed and also tortured by the Islamic regime in Iran. Some Iranian activists are executed. Pahlavi is in contact with dissidents within Iran.

• According to Iranian activist and journalist Homa Sarshar, Pahlavi "has been consistent in his messaging."

• Regarding the possibility of chaos if the Islamic regime collapses, Pahlavi said that unlike other countries that underwent a chaotic transition, Iran is an ancient civilization, saying, "We are not Iraq or Afghanistan. We are a nation with millennia of unity. If there's rule of law and justice, there will be no anarchy."

• Pahlavi expressed confidence that the Iranian people, who have long resisted oppression, will soon achieve liberation.

Pahlavi's political stance is already very thoroughly covered in the page, so this content doesn't do much except re-repeat Pahlavi's views in different days/situations. Some of these sections are even tagged as too big. Tagging Aesurias who restored this to the page. Tasasiki (talk) 11:26, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I agree we do not need everything he has said. Slatersteven (talk) 11:31, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

I did not restore this and don't know why you're tagging me. I will, though, note my disagreement with your opinion. aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 11:40, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, it was Blue-Sonnet who restored it. Aesurias, would you care to explain why you think we need this in the page when Pahlavi's views are already thoroughly covered there? Tasasiki (talk) 11:44, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Tasasiki please, you know that's not why HotChickenParmesan was reverted. HistoryofIran (talk) 13:24, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Yep, I explained why I did this in my edit summary, after seeing the report at ANI - I left an edit summary to explain why I did this, just look at the image caption if you still aren't sure. In solidarity, Blue-Sonnet (I'm listening) 10:50, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I understand that a lot of HCP's edits needed fixing, and that's time consuming to go through all of them and weed out the good ones from the bad ones; but these, to me, look like they had merit as they come across as trivial repetitions of information we already have in the page. Unless someone can explain why these individual statements are encyclopedically significant, I'll remove them. I know at the end of the day y'all have the best intentions here, so thanks for your involvement. Tasasiki (talk) 14:03, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I haven't done a full analysis, but I trust that you will do the right thing, please feel free to remove what you deem as a violation of WP:NOTNEWS. HistoryofIran (talk) 14:32, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks mate. I'll remove them one by one in case anyone wants to address any particular one in more detail. Tasasiki (talk) 09:11, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran Tasasiki is not an extended-confirmed user (only 366 edits). They are not supposed to be performing the mass removal of content directly pertaining to post-1978 Iranian politics. Moreover, Tasasiki has a history of tendentious edit-warring in this topic area to suppress the coverage of Reza Pahlavi without valid reasons. If anything, the removal suggested by you should be done by extended-confirmed users. ~2026-36961-40 (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Post-1978 Iranian politics does not have an extended-confirmed restriction like some other contentious topics. aesurias (ping me in your reply, or I won't see it) (talk) 22:48, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

@Aesurias and Bluethricecreamman: sorry if I missed this, but which of the WP:NEWS content shown above relates to the Israel conflict? Tasasiki (talk) 10:49, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Per Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment/Archive 135#h-Clarification request: Palestine-Israel articles 5-20260228235300 all of it. Recent iranian war with israel is broadly covered

the rest of iranian politics is not covered by ecr and should be ok to edit

you CANNOT edit in these recent iranina war topic areas except via well formatted edit requests, WP:ECREXPLAIN

(fwiw i dont thinn WP:NOTNEWS would not have applied either) User:Bluethricecreamman (Talk·Contribs) 12:17, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for that link. Tasasiki (talk) 17:33, 13 July 2026 (UTC)

References

Heir "disputed"

That Patrick would be the heir presumptive because of the 1906 constitution is original research. Reza Pahlavi has declared Noor his heir, and Patrick does not claim to be heir. There is thus no dispute, and Wikipedia should not invent one. Ponkobo (talk) 17:01, 8 August 2026 (UTC)

Agreed, made the edit DiodotusNicator (talk) 20:32, 8 August 2026 (UTC)