Talk:Porij

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 10:58, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the British band Porij was formed after a member's friend's band dropped out of a Leeds gig with a week's notice? Source: https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-radar/porij-genre-splicing-art-pop-interview-2812635
  • ALT1: ... that the members of the British band Porij cut their parts in their bedrooms? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/28/one-to-watch-porij-breakfast-oat-gang-rncm
  • ALT2: ... that porij contains egg? Source: https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2021-10-01/granada-introducing-baby-face-band-porij
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Disappearance of Cecilia Strzyzowksi
  • Comment: Created 26 January by Randall Peltzer, 5x expanded today by me around 9.25 days later. I leave it to the reviewer to decide whether he should be credited.

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Porij; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

"Cuts their parts" is puzzling and sounds like self-harming or something. Suggest you rephrase that. Gatoclass (talk) 01:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

It was my understanding that 'cut' meant the same as 'record'. ALT3: ... that the members of the British band Porij record their parts in their bedrooms?--Launchballer 19:08, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

Okay, a few issues. Firstly, ALTs 1 and 3 won't work because the source dates to 2020 and we don't know if they still record their parts in their bedrooms, secondly, I really like ALT2 and if I had my druthers would run it as is, but it has two issues, firstly that all sources but one appear to refer to the singer as "Eggy" rather than "Egg", and secondly it may attract the MOS police because of the lack of capitalization; and thirdly, the original hook is not very interesting. Any chance of coming up with a different hook or two? Gatoclass (talk) 08:13, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Egg appears to be Moore's most recent stage name per their record label (and umpteen rewritten press releases such as NME, Line of Best Fit, Stereogum), is the name used when remixing per Spotify, and is the name they use on their own Facebook account; my guess is that their stage name began as Eggy and then found itself shortened. (It's a crying shame their first EP Breakfast doesn't meet notability guidelines.)

ALT4: ... that Porij called their record label Oat Gang because DistroKid wanted a label name? (Source: https://diymag.com/interview/porij-baby-face-ep-august-2021-interview)

ALT5: ... that the lead singer of Porij uses they/them pronouns? (Source: https://www.nme.com/features/music-interviews/porij-band-manchester-interview-outlines-live-radar-3307357)

ALT6: ... that Piri pilfered Porij's guitarist for her own band after matching with him on Tinder? (Source: per ALT5, plus https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/piri-and-tommy-meet-the-rising-stars-of-pop-xbsjrwl8t for Tinder)

There's probably a really quirky hook in ALT6 involving lots and lots of alliteration ("plank-spanker" is a synonym for guitarist per NME and, well, Piri's other activities...), but I need to head out.--Launchballer 10:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm not keen on either ALTs 4, 5 or 6 for different reasons. Gatoclass (talk) 12:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

There's probably a good paragraph in the fact that they supported Coldplay on their Music of the Spheres World Tour, although I am too frazzled right now to actually write it. I'll come back to you when I've done so.--Launchballer 12:52, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Well not quite a paragraph, but anyway.

ALT7: ... that the British band Porij went from rehearsing in a decrepit mill to performing at the City of Manchester Stadium?

ALT8: ... that the lead singer of Porij once described supporting Coldplay on their Music of the Spheres World Tour as "good craic"? (I'm minded not to put the date in, given it's already been extended once.)

ALT9: ... that the British band Porij received "a bottle of bubbly" for supporting Coldplay on their Music of the Spheres World Tour?--Launchballer 11:02, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not too keen on these hooks either. In looking back through all these hooks, I'm thinking that ALT6 perhaps has the most potential - it's just that I don't like the word "pilfered", which, although intended humorously, might be taken by some people as a BLP violation. So perhaps if you were to rephrase that hook in a less objectionable manner. The alternative would be, perhaps, to go with ALT2, but you would have to add the sources that refer to her as "Egg", and we would probably have to capitalize the proper nouns to avoid complaints, or else perhaps hold it over for April Fools. Gatoclass (talk) 11:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

ALT10: ... that Piri formed a band with Porij's guitarist after matching with him on Tinder?--Launchballer 11:20, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT10 verified. Thank you Launchballer for your patience here - some of my objections may have seemed finicky, but what I might find personally acceptable is not necessarily the same as that of the wider community, and one has to be cognizant of possible or likely objections from others when doing hook assessment. Gatoclass (talk) 16:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)