Talk:Peter Thorburn

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DanCherek (talk) 14:58, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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Peter Thorburn in 2013

• ... that rugby coach Peter Thorburn (pictured), who had a keen interest in Thoroughbred racing, owned two horses that won multiple Group I races? Source: The New Zealand Herald (interest); Stuff (horses owned)
  • ALT1:... that rugby coach Peter Thorburn (pictured) started a pharmaceutical company after his playing career ended? Source: The New Zealand Herald

• Reviewed: Alpha Michigan Brewing Company
• Comment: Please save for March 19, his 82nd birthday (exactly six weeks and three days from now). Request to IAR the "six weeks in advance" rule.

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:00, 2 February 2021 (UTC).

Interesting rich life, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, a fine illustration, and he'd deserve one. I am with you for the birthday. - In the article, perhaps copy the detail about his playing career to the body, leaving the lead as a summary. You may also want to check for "also", reducing a bit ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Pending GA review

I'd like to suggest that the article is short on non-rugby biographical detail and is therefore not ready for a GA review just yet. Parents, primary schooling, work history is all missing, although this info is in the public domain. I suggest you get the 1991 edition of Who's Who in New Zealand out of the library and amend the article with what is stated there. Schwede66 19:56, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@Schwede66: thanks for the suggestion! Done – should be ready for a GA review now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:26, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Peter Thorburn/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Harper J. Cole (talk · contribs) 19:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

I'll take on this review, as part of the July 2021 Backlog Drive.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 19:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Early life and playing career

• [to Francis Thorburn and Frances (Burk)] It's a bit unclear what (Burk) means here. Her maiden name, probably? I think it's okay just to say "Francis and Frances Burk", as they aren't the main focus of the article.

• Yes, it's her maiden name. I'll keep his father's surname in there, so as not to lead readers to believe that Burk was his surname too. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• He was described as a flanker in the lead, but the New Zealand Rugby citation says he was a No8.

• Changed – you're right (this article also says No. 8]. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:28, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• Anything more on his career (e.g. number of tries scored)?

• Unfortunately, none from the sources I've been able to access. His obits all focused on his coaching career. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Coaching career

• [He briefly rejoined the team] --> "He briefly rejoined the sevens team" (Just to make it clear whether you mean the sevens team or North Harbour).

• Added. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• [Thorburn's first stint as selector] --> "Thorburn's first stint as a selector" (As there are multiple selectors).

• Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• [The team was expected to perform well at 2007 Rugby World Cup finals] I'd suggest a little clarification on what performing well means here (to someone unfamiliar with the Rugby hierarchy, they might assume the USA were contenders to win the tournament)

• Clarified and added a ref from The Guardian (since neither of the two sources at the end of the sentence stated how well the US were expected to perform). According to the article, the team was expected to perform adequately ("the USA will compete"), win at least one game if not two ("The Springboks and England look a challenge too far, but Samoa and Tonga are would be a pair of Polynesian scalps to adorn the trophy room"), but not advance to the knockout stage. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:23, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• [the USA managed only to achieve a bonus point at the 21–25 loss to Samoa] --> "the USA lost their remaining three games, managing only to achieve a single bonus point in the 21–25 loss to Samoa"

• Changed – thanks for the better wording! —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• You give the same citation twice in in the final sentence of this section - just once at the end of the sentence is enough.

• Fixed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Personal life

• [also contributed to a blog] any details on what this blog was?

• The blog mostly consisted of him ranking referees. Since there are no reliable secondary sources that specify what his blog is about, I don't think I'll be able to elaborate without falling afoul of no original research. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:40, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Summary

• Just a few minor issues - I'll await your responses to the above points.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks, it's a shame there's not more on his early life, but I think this is a good article with the information available. I shall promote.--Harper J. Cole (talk) 09:16, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• @Harper J. Cole: Thanks very much for the review – greatly appreciate it! —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:28, 26 July 2021 (UTC)