Talk:Paraiya/Archive 2

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Paraiyar VS Pulaiyar VS Sambavar

Sambavars are a seperate community found mostly in Kanyakumari district of Tamil Nadu. Paraiyars are a seperate community people who are living in Northern districts such as Arcot, Tanjore, Chennai, Kanchipuram and Vilupuram of Tamil nadu. Paraiyars are a warrior caste but Sambhavars is a priestly caste. Paraiyars lived in Ancient chola kingdom but Sambavars lived in ancient naanjil kingdom and Chera kingdom. Pulayars are a community living in the state of Kerala.There is no relation between between Paraiyars and Pulaiyars. Pulaiyars lived in Ancient Malabar kingdom (North kerala) and Paraiyars lived in Travancore kingdom (South kerala). Pulaiyars are magicians while Paraiyars are Drummers and warriors.--JohnPhilipsDM (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Use of word Untouchable

Hi Editors, Untouchability is abolished by Constitution of India. Calling a particular section of people as Untouchable is a criminal offence. The concept untouchability itself has various dimensions and view points. The word untouchability not exists in Tamil culture and it is a practice of Vedic Brahminic culture. Vedic brahminic culture was spreaded by Aryan invaders around 1500 BCE. Aryans came to India through khyber and Polan pass around 1500 BCE. Before that there is no caste hierarchial divisions. The Invading Aryan race created divisions among the indigeneous people to reduce the strength and to win their culture.So please be careful while using the word "Untouchable" because it is only a view point from Hindutva Brahminsim and in Tamil culture there is no caste differences. Even many Tamil literatures will clearly indicates this.--JohnPhilipsDM (talk) 11:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

• Support. Aryans and Dravidians are different races and we cant consider only one view point. There are two view points about caste hierarchy.One is Hindutva brahminic view point and the other one is Dravidian view point.--DanielZinker (talk) 12:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Aryan Invasion Theory

Please read Aryan invasion theory concepts to understand the evolution of caste hierarchy in India. The present day caste system was founded by Aryans (Brahmins) and there existed no differences among indigeneous people before Aryan Invasion.--DanielZinker (talk) 12:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Looks like you failed to read the sources on that page. Caste system in Tamil Nadu pre-dates Brahmin migration according to genetic studies.

• First caste-like hierarchy came into place with onset of Agricultural migrations.
• Second caste-like hierarchy was through "elite recruitment" by Brahmin priests.

Differentiation of Southern Indian Male Lineages Correlates with Agricultural Expansions Predating the Caste System, see also Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia 117.192.215.205 (talk) 05:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)