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Remove the video
[edit]Including a CCTV footage video of the incident should not be on the article at all. Please consider removing it or putting a content warning over it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doshindude (talk • contribs) 16:00, 24 July 2026 (UTC)
Oliver Trees Death
[edit]There is currently no confirmed information from reliable sources regarding Oliver Tree’s reported death. His team has not released an official statement, authorities have not publicly identified the bodies, and upcoming shows have not been cancelled or postponed. Some fans have questioned the accuracy of the initial reports, but at this time there is no verified evidence supporting any alternative explanation. Until reliable secondary sources provide clear information, it may be best to avoid adding anything to the article. Clint O'Shea (talk) 22:37, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Reliable secondary sources do confirm his death. The Guardian, USA Today, BBC, among others. jolielover♥talk 09:36, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- where are these sourses becuse i belive otherwise Clint O'Shea (talk) 15:38, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- His body has been identified. His body is going to the US for burial. Skyshiftertalk 18:52, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- ok i havent seen anthing on that but ill look into it, i just wanted to make sure that the info was correct ASTRYX*UNIVERSIAL (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- It's on his social media's account now probably posted by his team or family his back in California ~2026-36186-20 (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- ok i havent seen anthing on that but ill look into it, i just wanted to make sure that the info was correct ASTRYX*UNIVERSIAL (talk) 17:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
Why is there no 2020-2023 in the career section?
[edit]That is literally the most important part of his entire career, as he released the two widely popular hit songs Life goes on and Miss you. Why is this left out? Setarip (talk) 21:41, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Setarip, if you see anything missing please feel free to add it :) tony 22:36, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what happened, maybe someone removed it on accident? But I've readded the section from a previous version of the article. Skyshiftertalk 18:23, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
Missing/incorrect tour information
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Ugly is Beautiful tour was only in the spring of 2019, it didn’t go into 2020.
you’re also missing the Goodbye Farwell tour in 2019, the One Last Ride tour in 2022, and Dr. Oliver Tree’s Lobotomy Tour in 2024. Donutbigboy (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Please provide a reliable source for this information and detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Celjski Grad (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
Please edit
[edit]R&S is based in Ghent ~2026-36136-84 (talk) 01:58, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have removed the location entirely. Although the source does say London, it appears the label is based in Ghent; unless there's something to support the claim that it's also based in London, it'll stay removed. jolielover♥talk 14:59, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
Things that need fixing
[edit]I've been going through this article trying to improve it, here are a few things I'm struggling to fix if someone can help me:
- Source 50 has a broken URL value
- Primary sources 9 and 11 have generic names
- Primary source 11 is a dead link, possibly a permanent dead link
If anyone could help I would appreciate it NP (talk) 19:47, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
- 50 (now 46) is fixed, I don't see issues with 9 or 11 at the moment. Celjski Grad (talk) 18:24, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing source 50. 9 and 11 are just called "Instagram", could we make the titles the descriptions of the posts? And 11 is a dead link, possibly a permanent dead link; I couldn't find any archived versions. NP (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oh I see—under Primary Sources. I've tagged #9 as needing a citation (the IG post doesn't exist) and #11 I deleted in favor of another source. Celjski Grad (talk) 20:06, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
- Okay cool, thanks for helping out! NP (talk) 20:10, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oh I see—under Primary Sources. I've tagged #9 as needing a citation (the IG post doesn't exist) and #11 I deleted in favor of another source. Celjski Grad (talk) 20:06, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing source 50. 9 and 11 are just called "Instagram", could we make the titles the descriptions of the posts? And 11 is a dead link, possibly a permanent dead link; I couldn't find any archived versions. NP (talk) 19:37, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
Memorial livestream
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A livestream of Tree's memorial service is planned for July 25, 2026.
Tagging the article's three most recent editors. NP2026; Stargunk; Celjski Grad ~2026-32492-01 (talk) 17:35, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
Done Thanks, I've added this to the Burial section. Celjski Grad (talk) 18:34, 27 June 2026 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 June 2026
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Tree stated on Logan Paul’s IMPAULSIVE show that he was “exploring polyamory”, this was a joke as at the time before his death, he was monogamous with his partner Fiona Chernavskaya. ~2026-35444-33 (talk) 07:21, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Rainsage (talk) 07:30, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
Grant for artists / T-Pain collab debut
[edit]Not formatting these as edit requests because I don't have a particular phrasing / way of adding them to the article in mind, but here's two things about Tree that might be worth adding:
In Tree's will, he set out a financial grant for artists: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/oliver-tree-baby-geniuses-grant-for-artists-announced-death-1236277542
T-Pain has debuted an unreleased collab with Tree: https://ew.com/t-pain-debuts-unreleased-collaboration-with-oliver-tree-after-his-death-12008198 ~2026-32492-01 (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
Oliver Tree' late girlfriend
[edit]Please add that Fiona Chernavskaya was his girlfriend of 3 years at the time of his death. Fiona Chernavskaya is a professional London-based fashion stylist, creative director, and entrepreneur.
Here is a Yahoo article stating so:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/oliver-trees-girlfriend-fiona-chernavskaya-162802024.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicah12191 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Here is her Instagram:
Unrelated reference?
[edit]Reference no. 74 on this article, under the Foundation heading, links to a (as far as I can tell) completely unrelated study published in 2024 on Indian art and architecture. Does it need to be removed, or is it relevant in a way I'm not understanding? Waywardswagabond (talk) 18:54, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hey! I was the one who added that whole foundation section, but I never scanned over all the sources. I actually copied that entire section from a standalone article I made about the foundation, but I quickly realized that there's no need for a standalone article at this time. I have since fixed the source, thanks! ReelCosmix (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- Happy to help, thank you for your service! Waywardswagabond (talk) 21:47, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2026
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Please add that Fiona Chernavskaya was his girlfriend of 3 years at the time of his death. Fiona Chernavskaya is a professional London-based fashion stylist, creative director, and entrepreneur.
Here is a Yahoo article stating so: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/oliver-trees-girlfriend-fiona-chernavskaya-162802024.html
Here is her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fijioa?igsh=MWZoN2x2dmZramE3OQ== Jessicah12191 (talk) 22:03, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Unless this person is notable in her own right or received substantial news coverage in connection with her relationship with Tree and/or his death, she doesn't really belong in the article. See WP:BLPNAME for a discussion of the privacy considerations involved. Day Creature (talk) 04:31, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- His family even mentioned her in this post on X.
- https://x.com/Olivertree/status/2070664152683884858
- https://www.tmz.com/2026/06/29/oliver-tree-girlfriend-birthday-tribute/
- https://ew.com/oliver-tree-girlfriend-breaks-silence-on-his-death-following-helicopter-crash-12000729
- https://nypost.com/2026/06/17/us-news/oliver-trees-girlfriend-slams-gossip-in-tribute-after-singer-killed-in-helicopter-crash/
- https://www.aol.com/entertainment/oliver-trees-girlfriend-posts-touching-165453105.html
- https://deadline.com/2026/06/oliver-tree-girlfriend-death-helicopter-crash-mourning-1236958343/
- https://thetab.com/2026/06/18/magic-inspiration-oliver-trees-girlfriend-breaks-silence-with-statement-about-his-tragic-death Jessicah12191 (talk) 12:33, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- The same above still applies. ReelCosmix (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- how so? there are plenty of articles mentioning her, you can literally Google her and its tell you they were together. Jessicah12191 (talk) 12:46, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- She is only known as Oliver Tree's girlfriend, it seems like. ReelCosmix (talk) 12:47, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Yes. That's my point. I just don't understand why she isn't mentioned, but his more famous ex girlfriend is? Jessicah12191 (talk) 12:50, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Because the more famous one was not just known as Oliver Tree's girlfriend ReelCosmix (talk) 12:51, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- You have already agreed that she was his girlfriend. They were monogamous, and in an intimate relationship at the time of his death. The part about him on Logan Pauls podcast mentiong he was not monogamous is no longer true, as he had met Fiona in 2023.
- I'm not saying to remove the information about his ex. Jessicah12191 (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Per WP:BLPNAME, this would only be included "if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject." How does the inclusion contribute to a complete understanding of Oliver Tree? meamemg (talk) 16:24, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Because the more famous one was not just known as Oliver Tree's girlfriend ReelCosmix (talk) 12:51, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Yes. That's my point. I just don't understand why she isn't mentioned, but his more famous ex girlfriend is? Jessicah12191 (talk) 12:50, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- She is only known as Oliver Tree's girlfriend, it seems like. ReelCosmix (talk) 12:47, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- how so? there are plenty of articles mentioning her, you can literally Google her and its tell you they were together. Jessicah12191 (talk) 12:46, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- The same above still applies. ReelCosmix (talk) 12:42, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Same response as above. The requesting editor has provided a few news stories mentioning this individual, all reporting on a single statement she made in connection with Tree's death. Many of the sources (TMZ, NY Post, X, etc.) are unreliable. This is not the kind of substantial news coverage that would outweigh the privacy concerns associated with mentioning her in the article. The requesting editor is perhaps motivated by a desire for this person to be recognized on Wikipedia, but has failed to consider that she is not a public figure and may not want any such recognition. Day Creature (talk) 16:57, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 July 2026
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Change this-
Tree went on tour on May 30, 2026, to promote Love You Madly Hate You Badly. It abruptly ended after he got into a helicopter crash in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on June 14, 2026. Tree and three others, Gaspi, Lucas A. Vignale, and Lucas Frota, were all confirmed to be victims of the crash, confirmed by Rio de Janeiro police; they also identified two others, both being the pilots of the helicopters.
To this-
On May 30, 2026, Tree embarked on a promotional tour for his fourth studio album Love You Madly Hate You Badly. The tour was prematurely canceled following his involvement in a fatal mid-air helicopter collision in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on June 14, 2026. The Rio de Janeiro police confirmed that Tree, along with passengers Gaspi, Lucas A. Vignale, and Lucas Frota, were killed in the crash.[1] Authorities also identified two additional casualties who were piloting the aircraft. Notrhysm (talk) 17:29, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done for now: It's unclear how this is an improvement. Sources are generally not placed in the lead, in accordance with WP:SCROLLDOWN meamemg (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
More recent image
[edit]May we get a more recent image of Tree in the article's infobox? He looks quite different in 2026 then how he did in 2022 or 2023. ReelCosmix (talk) 22:14, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
Peer review
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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like feedback on edits that should be made before nominating it for Good article status, or to at least bring it to B-class quality.
Thanks, NP (talk) 00:54, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
Z. Patterson
[edit]First, please be mindful about words to watch, such as "while" and words similar to "but". You can find more information at MOS:WTW. Not every word to watch listed in the Manual of Style subpage indicates risk, but heavy use can be scrutinized both in good article nominations and in featured article candidates.
Second, some of the sources listed in the references are considered generally unreliable, such as those from BroadwayWorld. According to WP:BROADWAYWORLD, the website does not have good editorial oversight and it often republishes press releases. Authorship of articles on this site is often vague. Moreover, Page Six is a gossip column and owned by the New York Post, itself a tabloid newspaper. Please see WP:NEWYORKPOST.
Third, some of the sections in the article, such as Personal life and Burial, are rather short. If you can find additional information in reliable secondary sources to expand those sections, please do so. Otherwise, I suggest combining smaller sections with other relevant sections if you cannot expand those sections. It is not usual to see a short paragraph to have its own section.
Fourth, make sure the categories in the article are based on what the body of the article says. If any category in the article is not supported by the body of the article, then the inclusion of that category is probably original research, and the category must be removed. Original research is not allowed in good articles, because verifiability with no original research is the criterion of good article status in WP:GACR6.
I hope these points help. For more information, please see Wikipedia:Good article criteria. Z. Patterson (talk) 12:03, 15 July 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for the advice! NP (talk) 17:29, 24 July 2026 (UTC)
LLM text in this article
[edit]Editor KellyKiss has been shown to be a sockpuppet of the editor described in this AINB case: WP:AINB § User:1january2000. They contributed a large amount of text to this article. Spot-checking suggests there are source/text mismatches. I hope that local editors can clean this up. It is too intertwined for me to delete wholesale, especially at this time. M kuhner (talk) 23:18, 25 July 2026 (UTC)
- ↑ Holaday, Carsen (June 15, 2026). "Oliver Tree dies after helicopters collide over Rio de Janeiro, killing six". The Independent. Retrieved July 14, 2026.
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