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| On 31 October 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Coypu. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation–supported course assignment, between 25 January 2022 and 12 May 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Nbrint (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Elinf5. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clockwisecrocodile (talk • contribs)
Range of the Nutria
[edit]The map presented in the infobox is definitely inaccurate. I know for a fact that Nutria live in the rivers of north Serbia, and sightings are regularly reported on in newspapers. See here and here as examples.
I assume they also live in some bordering countries. If anyone can make an effort to edit the map it would be greatly appreciated. DrakiBeg (talk) 21:32, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- nutria are very clever at getting from Washington to Alaska while avoiding Canada ~2025-36388-15 (talk) 21:29, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 31 October 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 11:34, 15 November 2025 (UTC)
Nutria → Coypu – Coypu is the name used in South America where the coypu is native. It has been introduced into North America and Europe. Nutria is also an ambigous name as a different species (the otter) is known as Nutria is some countries/languages. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:14, 31 October 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 02:35, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Comment and question: "Nutria" seems to be a much more popular term in English. Is it substantially ambiguous in English? The hatnote in this article doesn't mention otters, and there is no Nutria (disambiguation) page. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:50, 31 October 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I don't see why meanings in other languages are relevant in this context. This is the English wiki. – Primium (talk) 23:21, 1 November 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Coypu is also the name commonly used for the animal everywhere else. Nutria is commonly used only for the fur. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nutria definitely refers to the animal, not the fur, at least in the United States. My search results for "nutria" are only pages-and-pages of discussion of the rodent, not its fur. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- In Europe, "coypu" is the common name for the animal. So maybe America is an outlier here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:26, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Nutria definitely refers to the animal, not the fur, at least in the United States. My search results for "nutria" are only pages-and-pages of discussion of the rodent, not its fur. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - Google gives me 8,080,000 results for "nutria" and only 685,000 results for "coypu", and of the eleven corpora the Google Ngram Viewer offers, only two show a definite preference for coypu (eight prefer nutria, one doesn't really mention either). Based on this I'd say "nutria" is the more common English term for the critter. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 16:49, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Mammals and WikiProject Rodents have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 02:35, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - per the ngram results from NekoKatsun - UtherSRG (talk) 16:16, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I note there was a previous discussion that moved this from the proposed destination to the current title. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note that there was an even earlier, and much better attended, discussion that ended in no consensus. This appears to be an ENGVAR issue. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- @AjaxSmack, PatGallacher, Anaxial, Cuchullain, SMcCandlish, Ortizesp, and ModernDayTrilobite:. Who took part in the previous discussions. -- Necrothesp (talk) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Note that there was an even earlier, and much better attended, discussion that ended in no consensus. This appears to be an ENGVAR issue. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I note there was a previous discussion that moved this from the proposed destination to the current title. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per NekoKatsun and WP:COMMONNAME. Sushidude21! (talk) 12:21, 9 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Nutria" was the COMMONNAME when the last RM occurred back in 2021, and reviewing the evidence again now, I believe it shows that "nutria" remains the COMMONNAME today. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:24, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Evidence above and in previous discussions shows Nutria is the common English name across countries, and especially in the US and Canada where they’re well established.—Cúchullain t/c 19:43, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
Non neutral, non worldwide point of view
[edit]This article appears to have been imported largely unchanged from a U.S.-focused sources. It gives disproportionate weight to the nutria as an invasive and supposedly “destructive” or “dangerous” species, particularly in urban or suburban settings, without providing comparable coverage of its native range and ecological context. Since the nutria is native to South America, especially its wetlands and estuarine regions, why should the article espouse a predominantly North American perspective rather than a global one. I am adding a neutrality tag to encourage a more balanced treatment of the subject.
The "disease" claim relies on a California government invasive-species webpage rather than on a peer-reviewed epidemiological or veterinary source. The cited page is written from a local invasive-species management perspective and uses relatively alarmist language, so it is not an ideal source for broad claims about disease transmission by nutria worldwide. Statements such as “various diseases” and especially “mainly through water contamination” should be supported by independent scientific literature specifying the pathogens involved, documented transmission routes, and actual epidemiological significance. ~2026-46230-87 (talk) 21:47, 23 August 2026 (UTC)
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