Talk:North East Line

Requested move 27 August 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to "X Line (Singapore)". There is a consensus to move to "X Line" format. As for there dab, there are various options, "Singapore", "Singapore MRT", "MRT". There is no clear consensus. Per WP:BARTENDER, "Singapore" will be used as the disambiguator where required. – robertsky (talk) 14:30, 15 September 2025 (UTC)

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• North East MRT line → North East MRT LineNorth East MRT Line
• North–South MRT line → North–South MRT LineNorth–South MRT Line
• East–West MRT line → East–West MRT LineEast–West MRT Line
• Circle MRT line → Circle MRT LineCircle MRT Line
• Downtown MRT line → Downtown MRT LineDowntown MRT Line
• Thomson–East Coast MRT line → Thomson–East Coast MRT LineThomson–East Coast MRT Line
• Jurong Region MRT line → Jurong Region MRT LineJurong Region MRT Line
• Cross Island MRT line → Cross Island MRT LineCross Island MRT Line

– Originally, these pages had the capitalisation before Dickylon moved all of them without proper consensus from the community. Yes, there is a similar precedent of the 2018 discussion to move X MRT Station -> X MRT station, but in those cases, local sources do not capitalise them (especially in this clear example). However, plenty of local sources have capitalise the Line , , , , , . As such, I'm gathering consensus here whether to move these pages back with the proper capitalisations. Also, as per that move consensus of the stations, while these sources do not have "MRT" when talking about the lines, the "MRT" provides conciseness and disambiguation on Wikipedia.

Note: The North–South and East–West MRT lines have the en-dash because official sources have them, and also because they run from north to south and east to west respectively. But North East line does not because the line serves the northeast region, not that it goes from north to east. ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 00:56, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support as per LTA's website, "Line" is part of the name. Although, might I suggest that since the official line name is "Circle Line", won't "Circle Line (MRT)" be a better name for the articles? George13lol2 (talk) 01:44, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia prefers natural disambiguation over parenthetical disambiguation (i.e. the use of brackets). And anyways (although this is not always the case) sometimes sources have included the MRT in the line name so there’s sufficient grounds for keeping them in the title. S5A-0043🚎^(Talk) 03:31, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

• Support, the term "Line" forms a part of the official name rather than a generic descriptor. Aleain (talk) 05:46, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
• Strong support per above. Dicklyon's decapitalization agenda must be stopped. O.N.R. ^(talk) 07:27, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

Well, at this stage it's more of reversing the damage he and a few others have caused in his overzealous "Decapitalisation Campaign".--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 07:33, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose. I agree that natural disambiguation is preferable, but mixing it with a capitalized line implies that "Downtown MRT Line" (for example) is a proper name, and the linked sources don't support that. I think either Downtown Line (MRT) or Downtown MRT line are good options, but I can't support the current proposal. Mackensen (talk) 11:09, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

  I would not object to your first option either. List the official name as given by LTA, followed by "(MRT)" in brackets. Aleain (talk) 16:23, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose proposed, support "[...] Line (MRT)". Happy to be proven wrong, but as above, a quick search shows "North East MRT Line" isn't as routinely used in sources capitalised so not as a preferable WP:NATURALDAB (as it isn't as used). Likely because it isn't a proper name but combining "North East" and "MRT line", the proper name is "North East Line", so better use the actual capitalised name or keep the current natural more descriptive name. For example this source uses the capitalised proper name and the current decapitalised name here, but not the proposed. I am assuming the same applies for the other pages. DankJae 23:33, 29 August 2025 (UTC)
• Strong oppose, support "Foo Line" or "Foo Line (Mass Rapid Transit)" where a disambiguator is needed. MRT is an acronym which should be a redirect to the expanded name. These would be:

• North East Line
• North–South Line (Mass Rapid Transit)
• East–West Line (Mass Rapid Transit)
• Circle Line (Mass Rapid Transit)
• Downtown Line
• Thomson–East Coast Line
• Jurong Region Line
• Cross Island Line

JacobTheRox^{(talk | contributions)} 19:16, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

Hypothetically, "MRT" could be justified by WP:SHORTFORM. (See the CIA and FBI examples.) —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:47, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

• Honestly if consensus is moving towards keeping XX Line I'm fine with it. But I disagree with the descriptors in brackets because MRT is not a unique term to Singapore and is also used for the KL MRT (e.g. MRT Circle Line) and Buangkok. We can perhaps go with (Singapore) or (Singapore MRT) as the descriptor... Tho on the main Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) there have been disagreements about using Singapore MRT as a term.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 04:03, 31 August 2025 (UTC)
• I would support the following ways:

• Status quo (pages not moved)
• DankJae's format but adding the Singapore in brackets (e.g. Circle Line (Singapore MRT)) to disambiguate with other "Circle Lines" that have an MRT (e.g. MRT Circle Line in Kuala Lumpur). Though I would also drop the brackets for those that are a WP:PTOPIC or have no other alternatives (e.g. Thomson–East Coast Line, North East Line), taking inspiration from London (e.g. District line vs Circle line (London Underground)). Oppose spelling out MRT in full per WP:SHORTFORM.

So basically on the second part the full titles I'm supporting are:

North East Line
North–South Line (Singapore MRT)
East–West Line (Singapore MRT)
Circle Line (Singapore MRT)
Downtown Line
Thomson–East Coast Line
Jurong Region Line
Cross Island Line

S5A-0043🚎^(Talk) 04:22, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: I agree with Mackensen; capitalized "X MRT Line" implies that that is the proper name, when "X Line" appears to be the proper name (and common name) instead. I would support "X Line" being chosen as the format. Obviously, this will require a disambiguator for a few of the articles; of the options put forward, I think that "(Singapore MRT)" would be preferable to "(MRT)" or "(Mass Rapid Transit)", because both MRT and Mass Rapid Transit are themselves ambiguous terms. However, I would suggest that simply using "(Singapore)" would be better still. Parenthetical disambiguation by country is a straightforward and common method. Tomiĉo (talk) 09:50, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
  • I would just go with "(Singapore)" because "(Singapore MRT)" isn't really a proper descriptor nor is it really in any way an official name of the network (unlike London Underground or New York City Subway).--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 12:49, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Line 7 (Singapore)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Line 7 (MRT)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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