Talk:NorthPark Center
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NorthPark’s Claim as the first
[edit source]NorthPark has repeatedly claimed that it is the first, largest climate-controlled retail establishment in the world.
This is not true. Southdale Center in the Minneapolis suburb of Edina was the first, opening in 1956, predating NorthPark by nine years. Many other malls were built between 1957 and 1964, further disputing this claim. Dma124 (talk) 11:00, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
What effect is the demise of Neiman Marcus going to have on Northpark Center?
[edit source]In all the south, one couldn't get any better than where Neiman Marcus met up with Northpark Center at the location of Central Expressway in Dallas Texas. With Neiman Marcus bleeding out along with all the other traditional stores, along with the heavy social agenda of the city of Dallas running off business to elsewhere, what is to become of Northpark Center? 2600:387:A:9:0:0:0:1B (talk) 13:40, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
To call Northpark Center an upscale mall is correct. Many mistakenly refer to it as a luxury mall.
[edit source]Northpark Center has more than just luxury stores. It is going to have far more flagship stores customized just for it. And it prides itself on being something akin to a private museum. Its architecture is smartly understated like the world famous Kimball Arts Museum in Fort Worth. 2600:387:A:9:0:0:0:1B (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
NorthPark Shopping Center - design & construction
[edit source]For perspective I participated in the design and construction of NorthPark. In February 1963 I began work for Harrell + Hamilton, architects in Dallas. Thew were predecessors to Omniplan. I was on a 3 man design team led by Paul Pate. Jim Patterson was the 3rd member. After a year or more I moved into helping produce the construction documents. Somretime in 1965 construction started on NorthPark. From my memory it took at least 2 years to complete construction. My name is Lewis Faulkner and I am 88 years old. Unfortunately throughout the years I have discovered many errors. What always disturbed me the most is when others try to take credit for our long and hard work. One thing to remember is that all this hard work was done manually by hand.
There was no CAD done. There were no computers. We even built models of malls and courts, etc. by hand.
I hope Paul and Jim are still around. I enjoyed working with them. We were all graduates of Architecture at Texas A & M.
Thank you for the opportunity to correct this issue. Lewis L. Faulkner, AIA 24.28.41.123 (talk) 16:59, 15 September 2025 (UTC)
Square footage?
[edit source]The infobox and lede of this article currently list NorthPark as 2 million square feet in size. That number comes from a 2012 Directory of Major Malls (DMM) infographic, which is cited elsewhere in the article.[1]
However, another source (the 2007 SCT "Seven Retail Wonders" article[2]) instead lists the mall as 2.4 million square feet, as does a 2007 press release cited in the lede.[3] If this were correct, NorthPark would be tied for the 8th largest mall in the country, not the 22nd as currently listed. On the other hand, a 2010 DMN article, also cited in the lede, describes the mall as only 1.93 million square feet.[4]
I checked the List of largest shopping malls in the United States article, and it uses the 2 million figure, but there is no citation at all there.
Of these figures, both the 2 million and 2.4 million come from industry sources, as both DMM and SCT have ties to the industry trade group International Council of Shopping Centers. The 2.4 million figure is also in an official press release, but that release is older than the DMM figure, so it may be less accurate. On the other hand, the DMM figure itself is over ten years old...
Are there any figures, preferably directly sourced from NorthPark management, that are more recent than the two listed above? If not, which of the aforementioned figures should we use?
- ↑ "Fifty Largest Shopping Malls in the United States". ESRI StoryMaps. Retrieved January 30, 2014.
- ↑ Linden, Kerri (2007-11-01). "7 Retail Wonders of the Modern World". Shopping Centers Today. International Council of Shopping Centers. Archived from the original on 2007-11-04. Retrieved 2010-03-27.
- ↑ "NorthPark Center Projected To Be One Of The Top Five Shopping Destinations In The Country" (Press release). NorthPark Center. 2007-05-03. Archived from the original on 2009-03-07.
- ↑ Brown, Steve (2010-05-21). "Owners of Dallas' NorthPark Center hire broker to arrange financing". The Dallas Morning News. A. H. Belo Corporation. Archived from the original on 2012-10-19. Retrieved 2010-05-21.
LazyCat256 (talk) 04:10, 21 July 2026 (UTC)
- Looks like the DMM explicitly lists the 2,000,000 sqft figure as gross leasable area, while SCT and the press release list the center as 2.4 mil but do not specify GLA. That would be my casual guess for the discrepancy. However, a press release from the investment company representing the owner and reporting about the refinancing of the mall in 2025 describes the center as "1.9 million square feet". That's all I've got. TheAlienAdventures (talk) 05:20, 21 July 2026 (UTC)
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