Talk:New wave music

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Addition of Seymour Stein coining New Wave

I found a bunch of reputable sources that stated that Seymour Stein of Sire Records had coined originally coined the term. Aradicus77 (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2025 (UTC)

Despite these sources, I think that statement is not entirely accurate? I will check Stein's autobiography, but the term "new wave" was used in this context at least a year before the "Don't Call It Punk" campaign. I guess if he was signing artists in 1976, then maybe it's the case he could've coined it, but I am not entirely sure. There is a book called Between Montmartre and the Mudd Club: Popular Music and the Avant-Garde, where the author argues that Stein popularized the term when paying close attention to the British side of punk/new wave, where the term "new wave" was being used. I think it would be more accurate to note that Stein pushed for new wave as a radio-safe term for music that was being called punk. I can seek more sources to elaborate on this, since I think that the origin of the term is crucial. Zperrier25 (talk) 21:04, 12 May 2026 (UTC)

Why is the article protected?

is this a controversial music genre? Heavy metal makes sense since it has a lot of traditionalists backlash. Neither the articles regarding punk rock or post-punk are protected (and shouldn't). 179.125.247.128 (talk) 07:11, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

The article has been the target of a long term disruptive editor. The status of other articles isn't factored into these decisions. Sergecross73 msg me 12:12, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

Third paragraph

“By the mid-to late 1980s, new wave was overtaken in the UK by the new pop and New Romantic movement, alongside the Second British Invasion in the US” isn’t really right. New Pop and New Romantic were both early 80s, definitely not mid-late 80s, and according to the UK definition of New Wave it was ending around 1980/81. And in the US Second British Invasion was mostly early-mid 80s. 2600:1014:B309:97F5:211B:1FA0:8283:DBD7 (talk) 19:45, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

Find sources that support that and correct the info. Ghost writer's cat (talk) 06:00, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2025

Include A Movida viguesa as a local scene or remove La Movida Madrileña. Both movements had equal importance but Vigo's was the first one and it came from a much smaller place, which makes it far more interesting. It was much more related to New Wave than the Movida Madrileña. XockoGalego (talk) 15:23, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

 Not done. Please use a "change X to Y" format. NotJamestack (talk) 16:58, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

Where it originated

This edit by Bryan1518 swapped the US with the UK to place the US first. Bryan1518 gave the reasoning in the edit summary:

Blondie, an American band, released their first album in late of 1976. At that time, UK new wave bands probably existed but they haven't released any albums yet. Punk rock was just getting started in the UK then. The Clash and Sex Pistols would released their albums the year later in 1977. The Ramones debut album came out 8 months before Blondie first album, almost a year, this makes new wave forming in the US first before it got into the UK.

The first problem with following that reasoning is that it represents a violation of WP:No original research. We don't have to try and figure it out on our own. If there are sources saying when or where new wave started, then we should be citing them. Many sources are cagey about when and where, because the term "new wave" was bandied about for a few years in ways that don't match our modern definition of that type of music. However, Vernon Joynson wrote in 2001 in his book Up Yours! that the first reference to new wave appeared in London in 1976. As well, Bernard Gendron wrote in Between Montmartre and the Mudd Club: Popular Music and the Avant-Garde (2002) that "all evidence indicates that the label 'new wave' first appeared in English discourses in 1976..." The UK punk fanzine Sniffin' Glue wrote about new wave music in September 1976. These sources settle the matter. Binksternet (talk) 23:45, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting on this, honestly, I'm going to leave the UK first, I would be agreeing with you there, although Blondie did released their first album before the UK new wave bands and Blondie are kind of seen as pioneers of the genre so I thought that maybe the US should go first. The US being the origins of new wave makes more sense when you think about it. The Ramones an American punk band released their first album before Blondie did. Blondie released their first album before UK punk bands like The Clash and The Sex Pistols did, so if new wave came from punk, why is it that Blondie formed and released their debut album before The Clash and The Sex Pistols? Blondie formed in 1974, The Sex Pistols formed in 1975 and The Clash formed in 1976. It makes it seem like punk came from new wave which is incorrect. The Ramones came before Blondie. Therefore, the US should be first if we look at history and not a book where the author can express his own opinions. I'm just seeing it through a history view. Another important thing is that in the UK, new wave was less rooted in punk compared to the US. Punk was more successful in the UK than the US so in the UK, punk was able to co-exist with new wave. In the US, there was an attempt by Seymour Stein to replace punk with new wave. I hope that we can agree on some things if we look at things through a historical perspective. ( Bryan1518 (talk) 00:11, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

You might want to consider another strategy than weighing various bands in your own estimation. How about looking at cited sources to see what they say? Binksternet (talk) 03:10, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Post-disco

Could someone add the post-disco template to this page? ~2026-30137-97 (talk) 18:58, 3 June 2026 (UTC)