Talk:New Guildford line

Route Map changes

Hello. I am wondering whether the changes to the map made by Kevin Steinhardt are an improvement on the previous version. In particular the new version suggests that the line via Cobham is a secondary route and that the line via Bookham is the main line. I also find the layout of the junctions at Guildford confusing. Am I alone in thinking this? Mertbiol 11:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

No, you're not alone, I much prefer the previous version too. It shows the route (which is the subject of the article) as a straight line, and shows the junction layout at Guildford more accurately. With these routemaps there is no harm in showing a 'geographically accurate' diagram, where the map templates will allow. The wiggly nature of the present map is also highly distracting. The previous map still required some polish, particularly with regard to the names of adjoining lines, but was generally clearer (IMHO!).

EdJogg 12:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I also agree. User:Kevin Steinhardt has been making a lot of changes to maps recently, and not all of them are very good. The changes seem to be based on "condensing" the maps (to save space?), which is not necessarily a good thing in terms of improving their readability and hence their value. This users has also made some other changes which add little or no information, but just re-arrange existing data ... one wonders what this editor actually contributes materially? Four Ceps 20:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, not all of his changes are bad, although this particular line appears to be an exception! Most of his edits recently have been to route maps, and the sample of five or so that I looked at all seemed to be an improvement, although whether the junctions are still 'geographically accurate' is another matter, as I don't know the lines concerned.

In terms of simplifying maintenance, I find it easier to have all the rows the same type (eg BS5), as it is much easier to work out how they will align once displayed.

EdJogg 22:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree about using BS5 for the maps. In fact it is the very reason that I do not use spoorstrip as it tries to replace anything BS5 with a simpler BS3 if it can. I think we ought to standardise on BS5, and do away with the BS3 and BS4 templates. Canterberry 22:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyhow, getting back on topic, the issue of having the railway line that is the subject of the article as a "straight line" on the map is fundamental ... we MUST!! Canterberry 22:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello. So the consensus is that the changes should be reverted. Mertbiol 13:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Information from Hinchley Wood

There was more detail on the line and the services under the entry for Hinchley Wood than in this article (it was getting to a point where it was even linking to the station article to get information. I have copied some of the information here. It needs editing: there may be some NPOV against the services to weed out, balance or reference and the Old Rolling Stock paragraph needs to be broken up and the references converted. Anywikiuser (talk) 19:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Sutton & Mole valley query

This article says that Effingham Jn to Guildford is shared with a branch of the Sutton & Mole Valley Lines but that article, although its map shows a tremendous mileage of track beyond what it claims as the S & M V lines, stops them at Effingham Jn. That a service on line A continues on line B hardly seems to warrant including B in A. How well are lines defined? Is there an official list? The S&MVL article mentions confusion apparently caused by different meanings for S&MVL.--SilasW (talk) 19:41, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

660 volts or 750?

The article says 660 volts but the infobox says 750 volts. Which is correct? I understand that the value is only a nominal one but the difference here is sufficient to be able to say that this is a contradiction that should be corrected. 87.75.117.183 (talk) 09:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

• The article correctly states the line was electrified using 660V, and the infobox correctly states it is powered by 750V. Railway electrification in Great Britain#National Rail: 650 V - 750 V DC, third rail (top ontact) describes how and when one was upgraded to the other. I agree that this is confusing, though, and have moved the voltage over-detail from the summary to the article. Bazza (talk) 10:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Referencing style

I would like to do some work on this article over the next few weeks. Principally, I would like to expand coverage of the history post-1900 and the present day infrastructure and services. I would also like to improve the referencing. I have done this in the past few months for the Redhill–Tonbridge line and Oxted line articles, both Good Articles, and Cranleigh line currently a Good Article nominee. Per WP:CITEVAR, would anyone object if I convert the references to use template:sfn?
Thanks and best wishes, Mertbiol (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Fine by me. There are lots of short refs already, unfortunately not linked to the full refs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:16, 26 May 2025 (UTC)