Talk:Mount Rainier/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Height of the Mountain

Hello everyone, I'm the Park Geologist at Mount Rainier. Someone recently changed the height of the mountain on the wiki entry from 14,410 (official height) to 14,399.6 (a single survey done by Eric Gilbertson that is not peer reviewed or official in any way). Can we get that changed back to 14,410 for now until we have a chance to review Eric's work, his raw data, and have NOAA's Geodetic Survey weigh in on the official height? Again, the work by Gilbertson is NOT official and should to be represented as official until we all can weigh in on it. Thanks! - Scott Beason (scott_beason - at - nps.gov) 158.68.218.126 (talk) 19:03, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out. We are currently having a discussion regarding this situation here. I will copy your comment over there so participating editors get notified. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 20:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry and thanks - Saw that after I posted it! -Scott 158.68.218.126 (talk) 21:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to add additional comments there as you see fit. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 21:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

I started a discussion about the use of Gilbertsons' website at all as a reference on anything geology/mountain related. Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Eric_&_Matthew_Gilbert,_PhD_site_at_https://www.countryhighpoints.com/about/ Graywalls (talk) 13:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Topographical prominence

Where did the information in peakbagger.com come from? I see it there, but I don't know how it came about. Graywalls (talk) 02:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@SounderBruce: about Special:Diff/1251625417, this wasn't so much a deletion, but I was able to substitute the National Geographic Source you located for the info. Minus the trivia like "ultra promient". I believe National Geographic should be used, rather than peakbagger.com for this. Graywalls (talk) 03:20, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Regardless of which source is preferred, it is not appropriate to edit war. SounderBruce 03:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm working on it right now. Instead of going back and forth, please check in about an hour. Graywalls (talk) 03:28, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Rainier Isolation?

Also, please explain how Peakbagger is an unreliable source for isolation? Isolation, using references to topographic maps, is calculated based on the distance between Rainier's summit and the nearest higher point of elevation. Distance is objective data assuming your locations are constant. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Navy Crash

Hello all, DJ Cane and I have been corresponding regarding the recent crashing of a U.S. navy aircraft in the vicinity of Mt. Rainier.

USA Today showed the search plane going around an area just to the east of Rainier NP in Yakima County, so it seems relatively close to Rainier. Roughly over William Douglas Wilderness.

Would the consensus be to include this information in the William Douglas Wilderness article, Rainier article, or Rainier NP article? DJ Cane thinks the crash is too far away from Rainier to be included in this article. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Is the crash a notable event? Or would it perhaps be an example of recentism. HiLo48 (talk) 01:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I lean toward it being notable for inclusion in an article but that it shouldn't be included until the Navy releases a more precise location of it so we know which article to place it in. My understanding is it's at least 30 km from Rainier (in Yakima County), which is why I don't think it should be here. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 01:20, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

It's pertinent to List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (2020–present). It's possibly pertinent to Boeing EA-18G Growler. It's not relevant or significant to the location of the crash. Schazjmd (talk) 14:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Agreed, doesn't belong in the Rainier article. WP:NOTNEWS. Should go in the list and maybe in the airplane article, but that should be discussed there. PersusjCP (talk) 16:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Fact check on Little Tahoma being maybe the third highest peak in Washington

This article claims that Little Tahoma would be the third highest peak in Washington if it were considered separate from Rainier. However, Liberty Cap is listed as its own peak on Fourteener. Given that Columbia Crest and Mt Adams are both taller than Little Tahoma as well, shouldn't this article be changed to say that "if Little Tahoma were considered separate from Rainier, it would be Washington's fourth tallest peak"? Or should the other article be changed?

Thanks! KilimAnnejaro (talk) 04:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Glacier Bridge question

@Hike395: Hi, you inserted [[Glacier Bridge]] with this edit. Is Nisqually Glacier Bridge (Q113624165) the same thing? If so, I would like to use {{ill|Nisqually Glacier Bridge|qid=Q113624165|short=yes}}, which will produce Nisqually Glacier Bridge, in place of the red link. Peaceray (talk) 05:32, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

The original source is now unavailable, so I cannot verify. In general, adding inline cross-wiki links is discouraged, so even if I could be sure, I would not recommend making that replacement. — hike395 (talk) 06:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Suggestions

What if we put hot to pronounce xʷaq̓ʷ, təqʷubəʔ, təx̣ʷúma, təqʷúmen, and Tax̱úma? Efihkuvrf (talk) 01:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)