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Latest comment: 9 days ago by MonocledEditor in topic Cuisine: Coffee
Former good articleMelbourne was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
December 20, 2005Peer reviewReviewed
November 9, 2006Good article nomineeListed
October 1, 2007Good article reassessmentDelisted
September 29, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
October 31, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 30, 2007, August 30, 2008, August 30, 2009, August 30, 2010, August 30, 2011, August 30, 2013, August 30, 2014, and August 30, 2015.
Current status: Delisted good article

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Distance from other cities in Infobox

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in the Infobox, it has the distances between Melbourne and other cities as the great circle distance but the Infobox says to do road distance AuspolScribe (talk) 02:30, 14 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean by "the Infobox says to do road distance"? HiLo48 (talk) 03:03, 14 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
In visual editing mode when you go onto the Infobox and go to the distances fields it says "Distance from this location to location # via road" or something like that AuspolScribe (talk) 07:34, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's good. I'm an old-timer happy to not use Visual editor, so I don' see that. Feel free to correct the distances. HiLo48 (talk) 23:29, 15 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
@HiLo48: The documentation that @AuspolScribe: sees in the VisualEditor via TemplateData is from {{Infobox Australian place}}, which does indeed say that road distances should be used rather than great circle distances. We're using road distances already (I can get close enough to the given figures by poking around on Google Maps) and were already using them before this section was written; it was just that the references didn't match the text. I've therefore removed the old reference links; they weren't even working. Graham87 (talk) 09:05, 9 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Batmania?

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Batmania has got to be explained, surely. Afterbrunel (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

The name appears in a paragraph that begins with Batman's name in another context, after five earlier mentions of his name. It is also immediately followed by a good source. I think it's enough. HiLo48 (talk)
Actually the source says it was previously known under various informal names of which "The Settlement" was the most common. I have made the change to conform to what the source actually says. "Batmania" sounds like a joke name that some wag made up. It isn't even mentioned in the Melbourne City Council source. The whole history section is terrible: based on old newspapers rather than scholarly academic sources. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 03:55, 1 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
I don't think it was intended as a joke. Tasmania was named in 1856, and Batmania is the same structure. HiLo48 (talk) 05:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC)Reply
Here is a source: https://www.historyvictoria.org.au/online-exhibitions/map-of-the-port-phillip/ ~2026-50469-35 (talk) 13:21, 18 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

Clarification of "Humid Subtropical" (Trewartha system) and "Mean" monthly temperature needed

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I understand that the Wikipedia article labels Melbourne as Cf in the Trewartha System due to mean temperatures in all months being above 10˚C. However, the table shows that while mean daily maximum temperatures are above 10˚C for all months, the same is not true for mean temperatures for a month (i.e. the mean of all temperature reading at all times of day during the month, not just the daily maximums), which is below 10˚C for July. I can find no source that says the Trewartha system applies to mean daily maximum temperatures, and a source I found from Oregon State University seems to imply it is the mean monthly temperature, not the mean daily maximum for a month.[1] It seems to me that we may have made an error in assigning the classification. Can anyone shed more light on this? Fh1 (talk) 08:46, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

You're right; Trewartha's classes are about monthly mean temperatures, not daily mean maximums, and July is 9.6˚C, below 10˚C. The text on Climate of Melbourne should absolutely be amended. However, Trewartha's subtropical designation applies to climates with 8, not 12, months or more of temperatures above 10˚C, so Cf still applies. "Subtropical" for Trewartha refers to the zone with warm evergreen-mixed vegetation of the warm-temperate to tropical transition, and while month-counting is possibly not the best way to measure this transition, Melbourne being there is right regardless. Uness232 (talk) 09:31, 2 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ↑ Permaculture Design: Tools for Climate Resilience. Appendix D: Koppen-Trewartha Climate Classification Descriptions

Largest foreign born per what????

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"has the seventh-largest foreign-born population." Uh, in Australia, in the world, or what? BlueRockThrush (talk) 02:06, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

In the world. The hyperlinked text takes the reader to an article that makes that clear. HiLo48 (talk) 02:51, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
Readers shouldn't have to click out to figure that out. I'll tweak it. BlueRockThrush (talk) 02:55, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
I have removed the claim because it is unsourced, does not appear in the article, and another wikipedia page is not a reliable source. I note that the previously linked Wikipedia page is based entirely on original research. That is, it combines data from different sources and reaches its own ranking based on that data. To make this claim we need to find a single source that uses a consistent method to rank the foreign born populations of different countries.
Happy to discuss Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 03:55, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply
Removal is fine with me. BlueRockThrush (talk) 11:42, 11 September 2026 (UTC)Reply

Cuisine: Coffee

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Would it be suitable to add a short section under culture about the cuisine of Melbourne, very importantly mentioning coffee's popularity within Melbourne? There are plenty of reputable sources, including those below. By comparing similar Wikipedia pages, like those of Wellington, New Zealand, it can be seen that Melbourne has a gap that could be filled. Let me know your thoughts.

https://www.slv.vic.gov.au/stories/history-coffee-melbourne

https://www.emelbourne.net.au/biogs/EM00370b.htm

https://collections.museumsvictoria.com.au/articles/2933 MonocledEditor (talk) 13:53, 24 September 2026 (UTC)Reply