Talk:List of Austronesian languages

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Why is Formosan left out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.167.12.253 (talk) 04:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Malayic family

Indonesian and Malay are 2 different languages, please explain here, what is the reason you believe Indonesian is part of the Malay language — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bahasa Kitasemua (talk • contribs) 15:49, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi! "Bahasa Melayu" according to Badan Bahasa is dialek lokal/tempatan like Bahasa Melayu Betawi as is treated as different as Minangkabau or Javanese, this is not the consensus of linguists whether from Malaysia & Indonesia or from abroad. Kindly see these sources:

• Nothofer, Bernd (2009). "Malay". In Brown, Keith; Ogilvie, Sarah (eds.). Concise Encyclopedia of Languages of the World p. 678
• Sweeney quoted by Gallop (2022) in https://tengara.id/esai/bahasa-melayu-dan-dunia-persuratan-nusantara/

Sincerely, anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.141.174.152 (talk) 15:52, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Your country's definition of Malay is for you, we have other definitions of Malay, Indonesian is an autonomous language that is distinct and independent from Malay, we never consider our language to be part of Malay Bahasa Kitasemua (talk) 15:59, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure about that because I don't know myself despite being a Malaysian. I only cite whatever stuff that is generally known in my field. If anything, you can write to disagree to those people in the links I picked if so, no need to attack me directly.

I do apologise for my anonymity, it is not of malicious intent. 175.141.174.152 (talk) 16:03, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Please don't play national cards here. This is the wrong approach. We only follow reliable sources. And there are many reliable sources which treat Indonesian as a standardized variety of Malay. And so did the "fathers" of the Indonesian language at the Kongres Pemuda, when they renamed the standard variety of Malay that was used by the Balai Bahasa as "Bahasa Indonesia" in order to become a vehicle of national unity and self-determination. But there is not offensive in saying that Indonesian is a variety of Malay, it's just a matter of what you're talking about: the standard language, or its intrinsic linguistic features. Under the former aspect, Indonesian is distinct from Standard Malay, under the latter, it can be considered a variety of Malay. –Austronesier (talk) 16:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

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List of major and official Austronesian languages → List of Austronesian languages – This page has been moved to the proposed title before but was reverted as being undiscussed though I agree with the original rationale to align with the other articles in this series. Logoshimpo (talk) 08:11, 3 July 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPath^talk 06:47, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Courtesy ping @Austronesier who reverted the previous move and @Northern Moonlight who performed the prior move. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 17:06, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Copypasting User:Austronesier’s revert comment here:

The title describes exactly what this list is about. It is NOT meant as a full list

Note that lists on Wikipedia are in fact not required to be exhaustive per WP:LISTCRIT. See also: List of people from Italy. Northern Moonlight 22:07, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Additionally, to my knowledge, there is no "official" body that regulates language classifications. The list divides these as official langauges in various countries and then "major languages" with many speakers but the article title implies a different meaning. The much longer title is confusing. I agree that lists are not required to be exhaustive but the overwrought title suggests a level of completeness and status that belies the nature of the subject not to mention the problems with the list indicated by the {{more citations needed}} tag. --MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 00:34, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Languages and WikiProject Lists have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPath^talk 06:46, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

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