Talk:Landeshauptmann

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Sorry, but who translated Hauptmann into "head man"???? - the correct form must be captain from Latin caput = Haupt. If You try to translate Landeshauptmann literally it would be "state captain" (see lieutenant isn't only a military rank but the term for "a person instead" - from Latin locus tenens. So the representative of H. M. The Queen is the Lord Lieutenant, translated into German as: Lord-Statthalter)

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Wow, how awful. This article is entirely about gender-specific naming, and not at all about what the office entails. john k 23:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, but we should be glad that no dispute about the title of the page has arisen yet, since it is not gender-neutral :-) Martg76 00:20, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

What a heavy update!

now the article is about 3 pages! BUT, i think its worthless. (f. e. the starting: or "Landeshauptmänner as in Styria till 1861" bullshit. there is a plural "landeshauptleute" BUT ofcouse U CAN ALSO SAY "landeshauptmänner".)

and ALL this "content" (haha), i think its just to "justify" this silly "landeshauptfrau"-term. ridiculous. thanx, Enlarge 15:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

this is just horrible

sorry for starting a new discussion about this. i don't see too much text about gender-specific naming a problem (it actually was a topic in austria when a woman got the position for the first time - and then refused to be called Landeshauptfrau, contrary to the second; actually i think it even was one of the most discussed aspects of the landeshauptleute of austria in the last decade).

no, the problem i see with this article: this is not an article, this is a list. and then even a list, where austria's (which is the only country where this title seems to be still used) landeshauptleute are just listed until up to 1918. while present austrian landeshauptleute just got a short abstract.

my suggestion: completely revamp the article, with emphasis on today's austrian landeshauptleute (their competences etc.), with a short text about southern tyrol and history. --Forgivememydear 23:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Moved over

I have moved the various lists to talk pages where they can be included into the articles. In those cases where I haven't found one at once, I move them here:

• duchy of Krain (Carniola, presently Slovenia):
  • 1270 - 1566 ....
  • 1566 - 22 September 1572 Herbard VIII Freiherr von Auersperg (b. 1528 - d. 1575)
  • 1572 - 1606 ....
  • 1602 - 1615 Johann Ulrich Freiherr Eggenberg Herzog von Krumau (b. 1568 - d. 1634)
  • 1615 - 1693 ....
  • 1693 - 1701 Johann Anton I Joseph Fürst von Eggenberg (b. 1669 - d. 1716)
  • 1701 - 23 May 1809 ....
  • 1912 - 1918 Ivan Šušteršič
• Görz and Gradisca (Görz und Gradiska)
  • 1870 - 1877 Francesco Coronini
  • 1877 - 1883 Luigi Pajer de Monriva (1st time)
  • 1883 - 1899 Franz Graf von Coronini-Cronberg (b. 1833 - d. 1901)
  • 1899 - 1913 Luigi Pajer de Monriva (2nd time)
  • 1913 - 1918 Alojzij (Luigi) Faidutti (b. 1861 - d. 1931) FPP
• Istria (Istrien)
  • 1849 - 1868 ....
  • 1868 - 23 January 1889 Francesco Vidulich (b. 1819 - d. 1889)
  • 18.. - 1904 W. Campitelli
  • 1904 - 1916 L. Rizzi
  • 1916 - November 1918 ....
• Moravia (now part of the Czech republic)
  • 1667 - 1700 Franz Karl Graf von Kolowrat- Liebsteinsky (b. 1620 - d. 1700)
  • 1701 - 1704 Karl Maximilian Graf von Thurn- Valsassina (b. 1643 - d. 1716)
  • 1704 - 1714 Franz Josef Graf von Oppersdorff (b. 1660 - d. 1714)
  • 1714 - 1718 Hieronymus Graf Colloredo (b. c.1683 - d. 17..)
  • 1717 - 1719 Franz Josef Graf von Waldstein (b. 1680 - d. 1722)
  • 1720 - 1746 Maximilian Ulrich von Kaunitz- Rietberg (b. 1679 - d. 1746)
  • 1746 - 1748 Vacant
  • 1748 - 1763? Franz Heisler
  • 1763?- 1772 Heinrich Kajetan Graf von Blömegen (b. 1715 - d. 1788)
  • 1772 - 1782 Christoph Graf von Blömegen
  • 1782 - 1861 Vacant
  • 1861 - 1867 Emmanuel Graf Dubsky von Trebomyslic (1st time) (b. 1806 - d. 18..)
  • 1867 Hugo Karl Furst Fürst zu Salm- Reifferscheid (1st time) (b. 1803 - d. 1888)
  • 1867 - 1870 Emmanuel Graf Dubsky von Trebomyslic (2nd time)
  • 1870 - 1871 Adalbert Freiherr Widmann (1st time)
  • 1871 Hugo Karl Edouard Fürst zu Salm- Reifferscheid (2nd time)
  • 1871 - 1884 Adalbert Freiherr Widmann (2nd time)
  • 1884 - 1906 Felix Graf Vetter von der Lilie (b. 1830 - d. 1913)
  • 1906 - 1918 Otto Graf Serényi von Kis-Serényi (b. 1855 - d. 1927)