Talk:Ivory Coast
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Reopen Requested Move
[edit]What’s the deal with the rejected requested move? Andyharbor (talk) 00:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not about to read all of the back and forth on the previous discussion, but according to Wikipedia naming policies this article should clearly be titled “Côte d’Ivoire”. What’s the argument against? I’m genuinely curious. Andyharbor (talk) 00:33, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- There were some procedural issues with the last request which resulted in nothing happening. I suggest making the next request in June/July (1 year after the previous) and the proponents having their arguments lined up. Erp (talk) 04:59, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks for the info. Andyharbor (talk) 23:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- There were some procedural issues with the last request which resulted in nothing happening. I suggest making the next request in June/July (1 year after the previous) and the proponents having their arguments lined up. Erp (talk) 04:59, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
I find this tendency worrying and a little more than ridiculous translation = disrespect. Where is the limit? Why don't you marry Italy in Italia? Germany in Deutschland? Russia in Rossiya or even better in Россия? Or does it only apply to countries that have the privilege of not being "Western"? Sira Aspera (talk) 10:10, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Because C’ôte d’Ivoire has internationally requested to be called that and those other nations have not. The requests of Eswatini, Türkiye, Myanmar, and Czechia were all respected just to name a few. Ethanbrs (talk) 04:15, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- No they were not. Myanmar was refused until English usage changed to using Myanmar. And no one calls it Türkiye except FIFA. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:49, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- The curious thing is that this article was created as Côte d'Ivoire, with the correct name, and was later unduly moved to this old English translation. Everyone I know who actually writes a lot / deals with Côte d'Ivoire calls it Côte d'Ivoire. What should we do to move it back to the original (and correct) title? Munter He (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- There is a difference even between Türkiye and Côte d'Ivoire. I genuinely never hear anyone say "Ivory Coast". It even sounds weird in English to say it without "the" in front of it. Most people in English use Côte d'Ivoire. I could list sources to support your claim but that would be time-consuming because there are genuinely hundreds. ~2026-37557-95 (talk) 10:55, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Interesting. Until the FIFA tourny started printing out Cote dIvoire all I ever heard is Ivory Coast. Heck I was sitting there watching the World Cup and the FIFA announcers were using Ivory Coast even though the tv screen says Cotedivoire. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Agreed. I remember as a kid it being mostly called "the Ivory Coast". Then there came the edict to use the French form. Which was promptly ignored. Ever since then, it's been "Ivory Coast" for the country and "the Ivory Coast" for the historical region. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 11:30, 1 July 2026 (UTC)
- Interesting. Until the FIFA tourny started printing out Cote dIvoire all I ever heard is Ivory Coast. Heck I was sitting there watching the World Cup and the FIFA announcers were using Ivory Coast even though the tv screen says Cotedivoire. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:38, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- Youre being far too manichean. There's no right or wrong for a translation. 0123Qwerty3210 (talk) 16:09, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- There is a difference even between Türkiye and Côte d'Ivoire. I genuinely never hear anyone say "Ivory Coast". It even sounds weird in English to say it without "the" in front of it. Most people in English use Côte d'Ivoire. I could list sources to support your claim but that would be time-consuming because there are genuinely hundreds. ~2026-37557-95 (talk) 10:55, 30 June 2026 (UTC)
- The curious thing is that this article was created as Côte d'Ivoire, with the correct name, and was later unduly moved to this old English translation. Everyone I know who actually writes a lot / deals with Côte d'Ivoire calls it Côte d'Ivoire. What should we do to move it back to the original (and correct) title? Munter He (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2026 (UTC)
- No they were not. Myanmar was refused until English usage changed to using Myanmar. And no one calls it Türkiye except FIFA. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:49, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
Modifying the anthem
[edit]Requested to soon to add a anthem, if i'm worried missing anthem from Côte D'Ivoire, allowing that introduces a ogg file. The file is coming laterly
Heres an sample of the OGG file
Status: Did not finish yet
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Thsharkeslayor8058 (talk • contribs) 07:33, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
“The” Ivory Coast?
[edit]Pardon me and my western sensibilities, but I felt the need to bring this up. Should “The” be inserted in front of the name “Ivory Coast”, ala “The Bronx” or “The Philippines”? Maybe not in the article title itself, but when it’s used throughout the article. Upon googling it, it seems like it’s more common for English-speaking folk to use “The” when referring to the country, and since we seem to be sticking with the English name, I figured that might make sense. But please correct me if I’m wrong. The Shadow-Fighter (talk) 15:24, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- @The Shadow-Fighter Yeah, "history of Ivory Coast" for example sounds grammatically wrong to my ear. Should be "of the Ivory Coast." I wonder if there's some kind of request for comment that could be made about this.
- But then again, the articles on the Domesday Book and the Magna Carta insist on not using definite articles with those names for some reason so maybe the dark anti-"the" cabal controls Wikipedia, lol. Kyoto Grand (talk) 19:49, 28 May 2026 (UTC)
- Usage in English is complex. I seem to encounter "the Ivory Coast" more in references to the historical region and "Ivory Coast" in references to the actual country. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:27, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, but is the country a seperate concept entirely? Before it was independent, it was just the French Ivory Coast. It seems somewhat counter-intuitive and awkward on the tongue to treat it as a name that abhors "the". Kyoto Grand (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2026 (UTC)
- i don't know how it works in english but in french the definite article "la" is used in front of the french name côte d'ivoire (e.g. la côte d'ivoire in french, the ivory coast in english)
- looking up a recent bbc sport article Ivory Coast 1-2 Norway: Erling Haaland scores late winner as Norway reach last 16 - BBC Sport, it doesn't seem like they use the definite article at all when it comes to the name ivory coast from briefly skimming it ImHopin (talk) 21:47, 26 July 2026 (UTC)
- We also only have the article at United States, not The United States. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- Yeah, but it's always called -the- United States in the article, ditto for the Netherlands. To be clear I don't think we should put a "the" before "Ivory Coast" in the title, just the body. Kyoto Grand (talk) 19:46, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
- That's how they do things in French language. They do it with every country. La Belgique, la France, l'Allemagne, l'Italie, Le Royaume Uni, les États Unis,... In English however it's Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, United Kingdom, United States,... Whenever an English language source dealing with the discussed country refers to the sovereign state, they appear to not use an article.Tvx1 16:43, 29 July 2026 (UTC)
- It's most definitely the United Kingdom and the United States in English. Kyoto Grand (talk) 19:47, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
- We also only have the article at United States, not The United States. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
- I mean, but is the country a seperate concept entirely? Before it was independent, it was just the French Ivory Coast. It seems somewhat counter-intuitive and awkward on the tongue to treat it as a name that abhors "the". Kyoto Grand (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2026 (UTC)
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