Talk:I Shall Not Be Moved
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[edit]While the song I Shall Not Be Moved' may have been adopted as an old negro spiritual, it was written by John T Benson (1861-1930) of the publishing company that bears his name.
"David Spener has written a book documenting the history of this song title" - wouldn't it be nice if some of that history could appear here? By the way, there have been plenty of publishers that claimed authorship of songs that actually originated in the folk repertoire, and even more that copyrighted songs they had no business copyrighting. Without at least some elaboration on the time period and the circumstances, we have no way of knowing whether Benson publishing had a legitimate claim to the song or not. Ramseyman (talk) 01:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Not proven
[edit]There is no evidence that shows it was a slave hymn. 2600:100D:B041:4814:E215:E037:D785:905A (talk) 01:03, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
Randy Kryn (talk · contribs) restored the following content:
Playwright Isaiah Reaves used the name for his show describing his grandmother's experiences as a Freedom Rider.[1]
David Spener has written a book documenting the history of this song title, including how it was translated into Spanish, changing the first singular to third person plural, "No Nos Moverán"[2] (meaning "They will not move us"). That version was part of the soundtrack of the well-known popular tv series Verano azul, which popularized the song among the Spanish youth.[3]
I think these are plainly WP:TRIVIA, both bordering on self-promotion (while there are secondary sources of questionable quality, this is not sufficient for inclusion on this page in my opinion). The latter is less egregious; the former was added by an IP editor who I strongly suspect is Mr. Reaves himself (self-described as "one of the most celebrated young playwrights"); Randy's edit summary was: please stop removing sourced items from In popular culture sections, thanks
. Note that Wikipedia policy does not consider trivia to be simply information that is unsourced, but rather an indiscriminate collection of information
. The mere existence of a book or a play is precisely that, especially when neither author nor playwright is notable on their own. wound theology◈ 12:30, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oh, and that IP editor is from Mr. Reaves' hometown. wound theology◈ 12:36, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
- And instead of a dummy edit that you placed above here is the real sourcing which shows that the item listed is relevant to the page and should not have been removed. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
- A Wordpress blog is not an appropriate citation -- you should know that, Randy. wound theology◈ 13:31, 8 July 2026 (UTC)
- And instead of a dummy edit that you placed above here is the real sourcing which shows that the item listed is relevant to the page and should not have been removed. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 8 July 2026 (UTC)