Talk:Hupa language
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Last native speaker
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The language might be dormant
[edit]Verdena Parker (last native speaker) apparently passed away: https://www.facebook.com/surveycla/posts/we-are-greatly-saddened-to-hear-of-the-passing-of-verdena-parker-1936-2026-mrs-p/1517706297022998 and https://www.facebook.com/TwoRiversTribune/photos/in-loving-memory-verdena-leona-chase-parkermarch-2-1936-march-7-2026with-heavy-h/1561454325982810/ . But these are just facebook posts, I am not sure it is verifiable enough
@Kepler-1229b @Kwamikagami your opinion? Қатысушы Апельсин (talk) 09:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- Huh, I just spoke with someone at Hupa last week. I can ask next time I do. Meanwhile, I assume there will be newspaper reports. — kwami (talk) 10:21, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- Kepler changed status in articles Қатысушы Апельсин (talk) 19:39, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- Facebook is of course not a RS, however, there will certainly be news reports covering this topic. I say wait until then before updating the article. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 15:47, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- I updated the article as the article for Parker was already updated. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 15:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- The first post is by the California Language Archive, so it might work as a source. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 15:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- Alright, so I updated other Na-Dene related pages - Pacific Athabascan is now dead. While at it, what about Lipan and Cayubaba: Glotto, Ethnologue, Campbell and ELP seems to agree that they are dormant, is change needed? Also in Algic template can I mark Yurok, Gros Ven and Wampanoag as extinct but with "2 " for "under language revival"? Sorry for asking many questions Қатысушы Апельсин (talk) 19:32, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Қатысушы Апельсин According to the Mexican government, there are 110 speakers of Lipan in Mexico. This figure is given by the speakers themselves, but does not include a date. As for Cayubaba, the most recent publication on the language (2023) states:
Today Cayubaba is on the brink of extinction, remembered by less than a handful of elders (in 2005) in the village of Exaltación on the left bank of the Mamoré River, below its junction with the Yacuma River, in the Yacuma Province of the Beni Department
. I say hold off on Cayubaba until another source explicitly claims extinction. It would be beneficial to tag the languages under revival using the extra note as well. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 04:15, 19 March 2026 (UTC)- Okay, understood Қатысушы Апельсин (talk) 05:44, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @Қатысушы Апельсин According to the Mexican government, there are 110 speakers of Lipan in Mexico. This figure is given by the speakers themselves, but does not include a date. As for Cayubaba, the most recent publication on the language (2023) states:
- Alright, so I updated other Na-Dene related pages - Pacific Athabascan is now dead. While at it, what about Lipan and Cayubaba: Glotto, Ethnologue, Campbell and ELP seems to agree that they are dormant, is change needed? Also in Algic template can I mark Yurok, Gros Ven and Wampanoag as extinct but with "2 " for "under language revival"? Sorry for asking many questions Қатысушы Апельсин (talk) 19:32, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- The first post is by the California Language Archive, so it might work as a source. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 15:53, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
- I updated the article as the article for Parker was already updated. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 15:51, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
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