Talk:Hazel Miseleni

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Miraclepine (talk) 01:41, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that Hazel Miseleni believes that if Malawi could end child marriage then it would save $500m within 15 years?

• Source: Conversely, ending child marriage in Malawi could generate the equivalent of $500 million within 15 years from slowing population growth, increased education and productivity growth.

• • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shō Toku
  • Comment: There is an image in the article. This is an article by a newbie so do be helpful.

Created by Nathingani (talk), Dsp13 (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 464 past nominations.

Victuallers (talk) 22:58, 1 August 2026 (UTC).

• New enough - Article created August 1
• Long enough - at about 400 words
• Reliable and copy-vio free - Mostly looks well cited. However, the lead says " She believes that ending child marriage to 20% could deliver Malawi a benefit of $500m over fifteen years." and I'm not sure what "ending to 20%" means. Ending 20 percent of child marriage? reducing to 20 percent of the current rates? The birthdate is also not cited. Normally leads aren't cited, but it's not cited in the rest of the article either.

• Copyright No concerns about copyright violations - Earwig is just bringing up job titles and such.
• Presentable - Looks good. I'd suggest a better picture but it's fine if there's nothing else available, and it's not an image hook anyway
• Verified - Yes - though the article says "Within 15 years the country could be $500m pounds better off" - Is it dollars or pounds? cited article says dollars.
• Under 200 characters - It's around 110
• Interesting - I think so
• Image - Public domain, not running as image hook anyway
• QPQs - says 1 required but i think that's covered by the review of Shō Toku

Will approve when the birthdate is cited or removed, the 20 percent thing is clarified, and the dollar pounds question is resolved. EmergentAnarchy (talk) 09:31, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for picking up those points. They are all fixed I think. The image is the best available. I'll ping you again if we find a better one. The image that we have is poor which is a pity as it's good to see African women on the front page. I will ask... Cheers Victuallers (talk) 10:09, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

The hook is not something she believes especially: she wrote about a World Bank report which says: "Ending child marriage could generate US$ 0.5 billion in annual benefits within 15 years (in purchasing power parity, PPP)". There must be better to be said about her than just her quoting a figure from a report she read. Fram (talk) 10:43, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

You're right, maybe I didn't read it closely enough. It's kind of ambiguous. Might be hard to quote her views from that article as there's another author. Maybe use something from the voice of america interview? EmergentAnarchy (talk) 16:23, 5 August 2026 (UTC)

We could do that but it is not just "something she read". That's an odd interpretation of something she wrote in a persuasive piece, supported by a report she cited. She put her name to "Conversely, ending child marriage in Malawi could generate the equivalent of $500 million within 15 years" ... many readers would interpret that as something she believed in. Victuallers (talk) 08:28, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

It's very strange to highlight (in the lead of the article and as a DYK) a claim someone else wrote and she (or her coauthor) repeated, as one of the most remarkable or interesting things about her. It's unclear why this one line, out of all her writings, interviews, appearances, is given so much weight. Has this specific claim received any attention? Fram (talk) 09:59, 6 August 2026 (UTC)

Talking of strange. I'm writing this as a co-author of this article (when stuff is rejected because its written as a co-author). I'm writing this in DYK noms where strange and unusual aspects of articles are routinely shared (and being questioned as to why the aspect chosen is strange and unusual). We are being asked to give more evidence (presumably from something we read), when the existing evidence is rejected because its something she read. Can some 3rd party disentangle this logic bomb for me/us? Or is it "don't like it?". Victuallers (talk) 15:23, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

You have posted this claim about her in the lead of the article, and in the DYK. However, it is something she posted (primary source) as a repeat from something she read (so not even something she invented or calculated), and where we have no indication that any reliable source considers this a notable, noteworthy, aspect of here life and career. It's something you are pushing as especially noteworthy, as if it is the core issue of her life and work, when in reality it is a brief thng in one article she co-wrote and which hasn't gotten further attention. That's WP:UNDUE. We describe people based on a summary of how independent reliable sources describe them, not on cherry-picking one sentence from all she has said and written and arbitrarily making this the core issue of her person and belief system. Fram (talk) 08:51, 17 August 2026 (UTC)

• @EmergentAnarchy: Have the concerns been resolved, and is this article approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 03:02, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
  • The concerns i raised are sorted, but we need a better hook per Fram's comment EmergentAnarchy (talk) 07:50, 1 September 2026 (UTC)
• @Victuallers: Pinging for an update. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:32, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

Withdrawn using common sense Victuallers (talk) 11:38, 1 October 2026 (UTC)

And closing this per WP:DYKTIMEOUT, this time with the script since the original attempt was malformatted. ミラP@Miraclepine 01:39, 2 October 2026 (UTC)