Talk:Harnham
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1904/5 changes
[edit]@Crouch, Swale: are we sure UKBMD is right about a Harnham parish created in 1904 and abolished 11 months later? This contradicts the two places 1904 is mentioned in our 'Civil parishes' section. -- Wire723 (talk) 08:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Wire723: VOB which is also cited above makes reference to this parish being formed from Britford. I've removed it though pending discussion here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oddly that VoB page has the 1905 abolition but gives no detail. Suggest we describe the situation before and after 1904/5 without tracing the intermediate steps. Perhaps there was a mistake in the 1904 legislation which was corrected the next year? Wire723 (talk) 09:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Its quite common for parishes that only existed for a short time for there to be no info like where it came from/went to, population or boundary map. @Stortford: do you think this is another UKBMD/VOB error? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- There was a civil parish called Harnham, and it did exist for less than a year. It was created on 9 November 1904 from the parts of the old civil parishes of East Harnham and Britford that were transferred on that date into the city and borough boundaries of Salisbury / New Sarum. Vision of Britain does have a mistake (copied from Youngs' Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England) where it says that this Harnham parish was part of Salisbury Rural District - it wasn't, it was part of New Sarum Municipal Borough. As such, it was an urban parish and therefore had no parish council. All the urban parishes within Salisbury were subsequently united into a single parish called New Sarum on 1 October 1905. For all practical purposes Harnham was therefore absorbed into Salisbury in 1904 - the 1905 date was a minor technicality tidying things up following the city's expansion, which I doubt many people would have noticed at the time. I've now updated the page to clarify things. Stortford (talk) 06:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Excellent answer. -- Wire723 (talk) 08:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- There was a civil parish called Harnham, and it did exist for less than a year. It was created on 9 November 1904 from the parts of the old civil parishes of East Harnham and Britford that were transferred on that date into the city and borough boundaries of Salisbury / New Sarum. Vision of Britain does have a mistake (copied from Youngs' Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England) where it says that this Harnham parish was part of Salisbury Rural District - it wasn't, it was part of New Sarum Municipal Borough. As such, it was an urban parish and therefore had no parish council. All the urban parishes within Salisbury were subsequently united into a single parish called New Sarum on 1 October 1905. For all practical purposes Harnham was therefore absorbed into Salisbury in 1904 - the 1905 date was a minor technicality tidying things up following the city's expansion, which I doubt many people would have noticed at the time. I've now updated the page to clarify things. Stortford (talk) 06:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Its quite common for parishes that only existed for a short time for there to be no info like where it came from/went to, population or boundary map. @Stortford: do you think this is another UKBMD/VOB error? Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oddly that VoB page has the 1905 abolition but gives no detail. Suggest we describe the situation before and after 1904/5 without tracing the intermediate steps. Perhaps there was a mistake in the 1904 legislation which was corrected the next year? Wire723 (talk) 09:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)