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Vienna Convention
[edit]"Under the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic, bicycles are considered vehicles and cyclists are considered drivers, a naming convention reflected in most traffic codes."
I removed this sentence since I don't understand how that contributes to a general description of the matter.
Moreover, anyone can confirm that people still use the same set of hand signal as described?
User:Zhihcheng 15:21, Aug 15, 2024 — Preceding undated comment added 15:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Road race cyclists
[edit]Professional and amateur road race cyclists use a different set of hand signals to those shown in this article. Those signals are less likely to cause the bike to waver from its line and are more suited to bunch riding.
For example, the "stopping" sign is a open hand, fingers together and downwards, placed on the rider's buttock. That doesn't change the rider's centre of gravity, and thus doesn't lead to pulling to the signalling side.
Turn signals are generally not given, rather the technique is to make eye contact with potentially conflicting drivers and then indicate intention by flicking the bike frame or pointing. There are additional signals to those required in the road rules: when riding in a bunch it is considerate to point out obstacles on the road, such as potholes and glass; a flick of the elbow is a request for a rider behind to take up the more difficult role of being the first rider of the bunch.
Professional cyclists also use the position of the bicycle on the road to indicate intent. For example, they will move into the middle of a lane prior to roundabout to prevent vehicles behind from attempting the dangerous act of overtaking a bicycle and then immediately slowing.
It would be worthwhile for this article to be extended to include the signals used by professional cyclists. This would improve people's understanding of road cycling events. It would also not mislead legislators into believing that the signals commonly described in the road rules are in wide use by the most experienced road cyclists. Gdt (talk) 01:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
Left-hand drive, bicycle assumptions
[edit]The entire article seems to assume left-hand drive (i.e. Overtaking is assumed to take place to the right).
It also fails to cover hand signals for cars, where signaling on the opposite side of the driver tend to be impractical. MoHaG (talk) 09:52, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
What even is this article?
[edit]This whole article is just weird. The tone isn't encyclopedic, and most of it is unsourced. Even the parts that are sourced are wrong; the only source in the section on right turns in Canada and the U.S. is from some Spanish website.