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| On 5 July 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Kumiho to Gumiho. The result of the discussion was moved. |
League of Legends?
[edit]Just a thought, but does anyone think that the 'in popular culture' section should include Ahri, from League of Legends? Command Conquerer Logs 11:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Naruto
[edit]Naruto contains various references to the Nine-Tailed fox. (Indeed, the part of the protagonist is the Nine Tailed Fox!) However, Naruto is Japanese manga and so I suppose it is incorrect to put it in an article on the Korean counterpart of the Nine Tailed mythology. Mateen Ulhaq (talk) 11:36, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Should this be merged with Kitsune? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KawaiiCafe (talk • contribs) 04:19, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
- No. The Korean and Japanese interpretations of the nine-tailed fox are each sufficiently notable and sufficiently distinct from one another to justify two separate articles. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 18:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Hoshi no tama
[edit]The article reads as follows:
The most distinctive feature that separates the kumiho from its two counterparts (Japanese kitsune, and Chinese huli jing) is the existence of a 'yeowoo guseul' (여우구슬, literally meaning fox marble/bead) which is said to consist of knowledge. According to Korean mythology, the yeowoo guseul provides power to the kumiho and knowledge (and intelligence) to people if they can steal and swallow one.
This seems to be like it might be related to a kitsune's hoshi no tama, making it not fully a distinctive feature. Though the hoshi no tama generally seems to be not remotely as important in most kitsune stories as it is to the kumiho whose vampiric nature is a defining feature. It seems to me that this similarity should at least be addressed on one of the two pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsukiyomin (talk • contribs) 12:39, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
An interesting difference
[edit]I was looking on Naver (Korean google) and what they had to say about the Kumiho and it's a bit different to how the West depicts them. They aren't truly evil they're more self centered if anything. While it's true Kumiho are more likely malevolent than benevolent creatures it seems it's not as common as this article depicts them. The Korean Naver says in many versions of the myth is if one falls in love or refrains from liver consumption it becomes human (this is mentioned) however what isn't mentioned is that when consumed enough souls or livers a Kumiho will actually become a dragon or a being on a similar level as a dragon. which this article mentions also carries around a marble. The marble is interesting too (also its in basically all Kumiho myths). It's basically the Kumiho's soul. Like the dragon if you take away the marble it's basically screwed. The Naver also mentions thinks the reason why people in the West consider Kumiho as only evil is because of the SCP Foundation which probably isn't true but it's quite funny. 2001:56A:6FE7:57C5:B962:372C:B5E3:B835 (talk) 21:43, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
- It surely would be interesting to included that perspective into the article. One would need to have reliable sources to back that up though (while the article overall has the problem of being none-to-well sourced anyway), and then someone would need to work that in... Daranios (talk) 16:12, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- I got you https://namu.wiki/w/%EC%97%AC%EC%9A%B0%20%EC%84%A4%ED%99%94?from=%EC%9A%94%ED%98%B8 Lun-Ah Backwords (talk) 03:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- this source also got links to different gumiho stories as well 2001:56A:F825:7400:34DF:A9FD:95FD:7C17 (talk) 06:29, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- I got you https://namu.wiki/w/%EC%97%AC%EC%9A%B0%20%EC%84%A4%ED%99%94?from=%EC%9A%94%ED%98%B8 Lun-Ah Backwords (talk) 03:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Six Guardian IMOOGI VALKYR BATS STRYKER MINOTAUR HODORI HAETAE future Gigatribe Mini Force 2400:AC40:620:4056:811C:3520:DADB:1329 (talk) 03:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, what? — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs) 18:03, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Document improvement plan
[edit]As far as I can see, secondary scholarship on the Korean fox tradition (kumiho) is still very limited, and the field is effectively at an early stage where the main task is to collect and examine primary sources. I would appreciate it if you could offer any concrete suggestions on how the article might be improved. Renar999 (talk) 07:28, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 5 July 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Moved as an uncontested request with minimal participation. If there is any objection within a reasonable time frame, please ask me to reopen the discussion; if I am not available, please ask at the technical requests page. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jeffrey34555 (talk) 16:49, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
Kumiho → Gumiho – per this ngram; note that "kumiho" is per MR and "gumiho" is per RR grapesurgeon (talk) 07:58, 5 July 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 01:02, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Kumiho which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:49, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
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