Talk:Gender norming

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May 2011

I edited this page so that it no longer asserts that all feminists support gender norming and all opponents of gender norming are against women in the military. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.62.20.190 (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't mean to say all so that was a good catch. --Uncle Ed (talk) 18:43, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

CMR viewpoints

Elaine Donnelly's testimony to Congress is not self-published. I'd like to put it back. --Uncle Ed (talk) 22:15, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

It's not self-published but it is, as I said in my edit summary, a primary source. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 23:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Primary sources can be used if they are reliable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:32, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not questioning that she said it; I'm questioning why we should include it if secondary sources didn't pick it up and if the speaker has no qualifications that might otherwise lead us to be more lenient. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 06:47, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

POV

I am tagging this article for POV as all there is no support listed, just opposition, inclyding seemingly in the Further Reading (judging by titles) --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Proposed Reorganization

I need some help, and maybe Nat would like to work with me.

1. define what gender norming is, and what it's intended to do
2. describe where it has been put into place
   • include quibbles from those who say it never happened (or has been undone already)
3. provide viewpoints of those who support or oppose it

Is this a good outline? Uncle Ed (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

I don't have the energy to be doing much building at the moment, but it seems to me that the article in its current state makes it appear solely about gender norming in the US military, which is the only examples used. The sources we use are not quite so limited, as some relate to the FBI, but even so it's as something that applies to the US federal government, and not even talking about smaller governmental groups (such as firefighters), much less any non-governmental things or anything going on any place but the US.

If that sort of expansion isn't planned, it may be more appropriate to either retitle this page (Gender norming in the US military, say) or to make this part of Women in the United States Army or somesuch. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:27, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, Nat. Several good ideas and observations. Uncle Ed (talk) 15:23, 24 October 2025 (UTC)