Talk:Gala (given name)
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Revert war
[edit]"or a variant of the name Helen" - false statement. Please do not restore. --Altenmann >talk 00:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
In any case the existing wikilink to Galina suffice, with all etymology. To write that Galina if derived from 'calm weather" is pretty much confusing. --Altenmann >talk 00:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
The relevant entry for the name Gala in the Oxford name dictionary cited in the article says the following “Of Russian origin: a contracted form of Galina, which is said to be from the Greek name Galene ‘calm’, although it may actually be a vernacular form of Helen. The name is now adopted occasionally by English speakers, perhaps influenced by the festive connotations of the vocabulary word.” This is referenced with a published source. I intend to restore the sentence. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 00:08, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- About Helen is bullshit because Russian for Helen is Elena, and no way Gala can be produced from it. But I will not lose my sleep over it. This it not the largest nonsense in Wikipedia to be worried about. By the way you have footnote duplicated. --Altenmann >talk 01:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- So add another source. A fair number of English sources equate Galina with Helen/Elena, etc. I don’t speak Russian. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- English sources copy ignorance from each other and do not cite expert sources. --Altenmann >talk 01:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- The Oxford English dictionary is pretty much the most respected English source on personal names. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- One factor might be that a lot of Russian Galinas have been known as Helen in English even if the names aren’t derived from the same source. It’s a little bit like Daria and Dorothy or Ludmila and Lucy. Galina, Daria, and Ludmila are not common English names so Russians “translated” their names into English by picking more familiar names for English speakers. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:49, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- The Oxford English dictionary is pretty much the most respected English source on personal names. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- English sources copy ignorance from each other and do not cite expert sources. --Altenmann >talk 01:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
- So add another source. A fair number of English sources equate Galina with Helen/Elena, etc. I don’t speak Russian. Bookworm857158367 (talk) 01:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)