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Latest comment: 1 month ago by GoblinHandsSam in topic Comment on problematic source

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Thank you for your work on this article. Please establish notability as per WP:NCORP. Thanks and have a wonderful day!

Mariamnei (talk) 12:49, 26 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

I've added some additional details and removed the notability tag, though the article definitely does need more sourcing and information. Smallangryplanet (talk) 16:00, 27 February 2026 (UTC)Reply
And I agree completely. Honestly, given the apparent monetary and political importance of the subject, I was stunned no article had ever been written and wanted to at least get the ball rolling. Thank you both for your help! Hopefully others will continue to add and help it grow. It would probably warrant a Did You Know entry if I had the time right now to expand it properly. Alas, I do not. A loose necktie (talk) 00:45, 3 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Comment on problematic source

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At the end of the article, there's a statement that economist Emily Morris disagrees with the Miami Herald's account of how much money GAESA holds. The problem is that the source, Belly of the Beast, is not a reliable and impartial source. The website advertises trips to Cuba and has news on Jeremy Corbyn and other controversial political figures who openly support the Cuban government. It is therefore no surprise that an interview from this source would downplay the amount of money that GAESA has. This reference should be removed due to being tantamount to Cuban regime propaganda. Gandalf 1892 (talk) 22:08, 28 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

They interviewed a reliable source that wasn’t from the Cuban government. I’m adding it back. ~2026-29313-24 (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
Also Belly of the Beast has made documentaries for years and has won multiple awards for their coverage. This includes the One World Media awards
you just don’t like the source because you disagree with it. ~2026-29313-24 (talk) 17:57, 15 May 2026 (UTC)Reply
The neutrality of this article requires citations from various sources. Calling the Cuban government a "regime" is not neutral. There is a lot of misinformation around Cuba coming from pro and especially anti-Cuban sources. Belly of the Beast are like the New York Times: the receive no money from the Cuban government. If anything, this Wikipedia article relies far to heavily on the New York Times article which has no corroborating evidence aside from United States government officials or those partial to their viewpoints (though importantly not receiving any public funding from them) currently involved in controversial political actions, see 2026 Cuban crisis.
As stated in the Belly of the Beast article, the conclusions reached by the New York Times article given the alleged financial records are the opinion of the journalist and disputed. For example, the conclusion that the valuation of the assets GAESA holds means money is being siphoned from social programs makes the common mistake in economics of confusing stocks with flows and would leave any economist--regardless of their opinion of Cuba--hesitant to call the article accurate. It is not going too far to consider the New York Times article not entirely neutral. The other sources are all one or two levels removed from being re-reports of the same Miami Herald and New York Times articles. There is really only a single source of this information.
We ought to add a warning that the neutrality of this article is disputed since it is essentially a stub rephrasing the New York Times article and the Miami Herald who are notoriously biased against Cuba and have a long history of printing misinformation on the topic. (Apologies if I misused this talk page, I am new to this type of Wikipedia discussion). GoblinHandsSam (talk) 01:40, 27 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Might be relevant here

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From the Miami Herald

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article315848572.html

ICE detains in Miami sister of head of GAESA, the military firm that runs Cuba’s economy By Syra Ortiz Blanes May 22, 2026

Includes comments from Marco Rubio

Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:00, 25 May 2026 (UTC)Reply