Talk:Free Homeland Forces
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 | On 19 December 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved to Shawqi Abu Nasira group. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Requested move 19 December 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. There is no consensus for the proposed move at this time. BD2412 T 23:38, 26 December 2025 (UTC)
Popular Army in Rafah → Shawqi Abu Nasira group – Their name refers to Rafah but other sources indicate they are based in Khan Yunis. I understand the existence of Abu Nasira's group has only been revealed recently, and more information has yet to come out, but such an important contradiction like this will likely confuse readers. I propose that both the name provided by FDD and the apparent contradiction be referenced in the lede, something along these lines:
"The Shawqi Abu Nasira group is an anti-Hamas Palestinian militant group led by Shawqi Abu Nasira, a former Palestinian Authority officer. His group reportedly operates as part of the Popular Forces and is composed of around 30 fighters. The existence of the group was only revealed in late November 2025, however it has been active since several months prior.
The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies' Long War Journal has reported that Abu Nasira's group is called the Popular Army in Rafah, however other sources have reported that the group is based in Khan Yunis." Evaporation123 (talk) 22:28, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - A disclaimer should be placed in the lead so readers are not confused. This is what the group refers to themselves as. JaxsonR (talk) 06:00, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose - The group is only headquartered in Israeli-controlled areas of Khan Yunis. Its primary areas of operations (where it asserts its control and clashes with Hamas) are in Rafah. It is common for militant/insurgent groups and militias to claim sovereignty over, control or operate in one piece land, despite being headquartered in an other. KashanAbbas (talk) 08:53, 22 December 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - According to this source [https://ecfr.eu/special/mapping_palestinian_politics/strike-force-against-terror/]. Shawqi was from Rafah and then formed his group in Khan Yunis. JaxsonR (talk) 20:06, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
Wrong Name, Wrong location.
[edit]The militia led by Abu Nassira is located in the Southern Deir Al Balah Governorate, at the Masadaa Ibn Abed Allah Al Azmi Basic Co-education School, and are officially called the “Free Homeland Forces.”
Source for their name and logo Information in relation to their location. Geolocation proving their location: Stinky1300 (talk) 03:21, 27 December 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you!!! I have changed it. JaxsonR (talk) 21:03, 28 December 2025 (UTC)