Talk:Fleadh Cheoil
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[edit]This page and Fleadh have mostly the same information, culled (it appears) from the Comhaltas website. The Fleadh article has some information on other fleadhs. It could do with overall being made more informative (& organised), which I why I added the list of categories. Ewjw 19:11, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
- A "Fleadh" can be more than just a music event. Perhaps the content from Fleadh should be placed in Fleadh Cheoil but the Fleadh article should continue, explaining to visitors that a Fleadh is just a festival. There are many words for festival in the Irish language which have been used by groups to promote there activities. For example, Feis is often used by Irish dancers to denote their events but the Wikipedia entry gives it as an arts or cultural festival. Fleadh can mean the same thing. DavidJosephNolan 15:36, 09 August 2006
- I agree, "Fleadh Cheoil" and simply a "Fleadh" should be one article and this article should be called "Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann".
- Fleadh is the general term for a festival, Feis or Fheis is usually used for a local music event - but I dont know the exact difference in the term, however this article describes the specific event which is the "Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann" or more commonly in English the "All-Ireland Fleadh". Maybe I will get Alison over to tell us the difference as she is more of a gaelgor than I.--Vintagekits 10:54, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Fleadh is also the name of a specific event, unrelated to the Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann, which is held in London. I've created a disambiguation page and started a stub for the London event. Lordslackarse (talk) 12:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann
[edit]Why isn't this article under its full (and official) name? There are plenty of fleadh cheoil around the country, but the Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann is unique. It's also the largest music festival in Ireland by a long shot so I'll put that in with a citation now. PS: Just checked again and there's no article yet on the Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann, although it, wrongly, redirects here. Anyway, I put the citation in at the relevant place. 78.16.173.206 (talk) 21:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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Fleadh Cheoil → Fleadh – Most news coverage (e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cedje1nwe2po) just uses the term "Fleadh" for it so that seems to be the WP:COMMONNAME. Existing disambiguation page at Fleadh likely doesn't need to be kept as there is only one other topic so a hatnote would suffice. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 01:42, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Fleadh Cheoil" meets the naming criteria. It is recognisable, natural, precise (doesn't cause ambiguity/confusion with other topics) and consistent. While, perhaps, not as concise as simply "Fleadh", I would note that (a) the term "Fleadh" simply means "festival" or "feast" (so of course it's concise - but also quite a generic term) and (b) the expectation of conciseness doesn't override/trump other naming criteria. There's also every indication that "Fleadh Cheoil" is in very common use. EG:
- Irish Times - "First Fleadh Cheoil na hÉireann in Belfast brings 95% surge in footfall to city"
- Irish Examiner - "How the Fleadh Cheoil helped revive traditional music in Ireland"
- RTÉ - "Over 1.6 million in Belfast during Fleadh Cheoil"
- RTÉ - "What's behind the enduring popularity of the Fleadh Cheoil?"
- Irish Independent - "Édaein O'Connell: I loved to win at the Fleadh Cheoil but there is no greater prize than the memories it gave me"
- Organiser's own website, etc
- (While, yes, without other context, if someone said "the Fleadh", the listener might presume that the speaker was referring to the "main"/national Fleadh Cheoil. But, depending on context, they could also mean the Dublin City Fleadh, Fleadh Feirste, the Fleadh Nua, the Munster Fleadh or whatever.)
- IMO, moving the title to the generic term would cause more problems than it would solve (and I don't even think there's an actual problem to solve). To me, the proposal seems like a solution looking for a problem (and one that will find/cause more issues than it solves at that). Personally don't support the proposal.... Guliolopez (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2026 (UTC)