Talk:Dental notation

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would love to see this article expanded to include a history of such codes, who devised them, some examples of earlier ones, etc. Eupedia

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Prof D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meduban (talk • contribs) 14:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Needs "Left--Right" orientation defined

For all systems, diagrams and text: Is it Patient's or Dentist's viewpoint? HalFonts (talk) 23:31, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

I have added the information in the text and the table

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dental_notation&type=revision&diff=1089625918&oldid=1084145892 Sergius-eu (talk) 21:29, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposal for New (Improved) Dental Notation

Non article-related discussion. See WP:NOTFORUM.

• • • [Ois1974 @ 2013-05-25 Sat] BEGIN writes ***

This is my new proposal for another dental notation that might be more useful for dentists around the world. Please have a look and feel free to use one/all of them if you (dentists) found it quite useful for global

usage (for dentists and common 'L2L' people).

I just want to make the notation more distinct and clearer to read w/o unnecessary possible mix-ups. I can't write this in main article since it needs valid reference while I don't have any (since this is my

brand new fresh idea, a 'charity' for dentistry world :), so then I write it in "Talk" page instead (valid

Wikipedia editors can write this in main article w/o need to ask my permission - since thay have my permission

already - just please respect/honor my idea as it should be on 'copyleft' ideas).

OK then, here they are:

>>> 1st Proposal ["OIS-D1" (Oey Int'l Standard/System - Dental, Type-1) Notation] <<<

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                             adult 
           upper right - Ax            upper left - Bx
       A8 A7 A6 A5 A4 A3 A2 A1 | B1 B2 B3 B4 B5 B6 B7 B8
    R --------------------------------------------------- L
       D8 D7 D6 D5 D4 D3 D2 D1 | C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8
           lower right - Dx            lower left - Cx

                           deciduous
           upper right - Ex            upper left - Fx
                E5 E4 E3 E2 E1 | F1 F2 F3 F4 F5
             R --------------------------------- L
                H5 H4 H3 H2 H1 | G1 G2 G3 G4 G5
           lower right - Hx            lower left - Gx

---

This one is just a simple modification of FDI notation that uses all numbers for everything. While I want to

ensure reader will read quadrant and relative tooth position in quadrant very distinctly. This way dentists can write in either way w/o mix-ups, either written in letter 1st or in number 1st. For example: Dentist can write the lower left canine tooth in: "C3" or "3C".

>>> 2nd Proposal ["OIS-D3" (Oey Int'l Standard/System - Dental, Type-3) Notation] <<<

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                                adult
            upper right - xyA           upper left - xyB
  m3A m2A m1A p2A p1A c1A i2A i1A | i1B i2B c1B p1B p2B m1B m2B m3B
       R --------------------------------------------------- L
  m3D m2D m1D p2D p1D c1D i2D i1D | i1C i2C c1C p1C p2C m1C m2C m3C
            lower right - xyD           lower left - xyC

                              deciduous
            upper right - xyE           upper left - xyF
              p2E p1E c1E i2E i1E | i1F i2F c1F p1F p2F
                R --------------------------------- L
              p2H p1H c1H i2H i1H | i1G i2G c1G p1G p2G
            lower right - xyH           lower left - xyG

  i = Incisor
  c = Canine
  p = PreMolar
  m = Molar

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This one is more descriptive and very useful for students studying human dental (anyone who want to study the

human dental nomenclature and its positioning notation) and even professionals (dentists, etc). For example, Incisor number 1 and 2 is clearly defined, then the Canine, and so on - even those who already knew the form

of Canine tooth at a glance can immediately use it as point of reference to count to next PreMolar or Molar

tooth w/o need to count from Incisor #1 (and using the facts that PreMolar teeth normally have smaller form

than Molar teeth can really help a lot). This notation also helps a lot for anyone who can't remember fully

the tooth position from #1 to #32 as used in Universal numbering system (or too lazy to count all 32 of them).

If necessary you can also move the quadrant letter to front/1st (for those used to write quadrant position

1st) and still w/o mix-ups, for example: "Cc1" is similar to "c1C" (since tooth letter code name always

written in lower case letter and always followed by its relative position number and quadrant always written

in upper case letter) - and if also necessary you can name this 'quadrant-1st' writing mode as "OIS-D3b" or

else, but I don't think it's really necessary to (re)define it separately.

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My preference is "OIS-D3" ("D3" can be referred as "3-Digit" too) notation since this one can tell us

immediately what kind/type of tooth it is (incisor/canine/premolar/molar) w/o need to count from incisor #1 as

starting point (and I think students and love-2-learn/L2L common people may love this 'specific-relative'

notation approach too - since some of them may already knew what canine/molar tooth (and their relative

position number) is and refer this to his/her dentist this way "My Canine/Molar tooth is aching again, please

help me doc!" and opening his/her mouth while pointing to the aching tooth's location/quadrant with his/her

finger). May be using Canine tooth instead of Incisor #1 as starting counting point can even make counting

teeth faster for some people, who knows... :)

• • • [Ois1974 @ 2013-05-25 Sat] END writes *** — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.3.6 (talk) 23:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Palmer notation section using incorrect symbols.

Under the Palmer notation wikipedia page is the following: "The Miscellaneous Technical block in Unicode provides Palmer notation symbols in U+23BE through U+23CC. The symbols are not to be confused with box-drawing characters (┘└ ┐┌), which have the horizontal line at the middle.[5]"

Under "Palmer notation" on this page, the box-drawing symbols are used instead of the correct Unicode Palmer notation symbols. The incorrect box-drawing symbols are also used in the image showing Palmer notation in use, rendering the entire image incorrect.

The correct Unicode symbols for Palmer notation look like this: (⏌⎿ ⏋⎾).

Thank you for your time. 2001:569:556B:B600:D59E:F15C:77CC:1029 (talk) 03:57, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

For primary teeth, ...

The extant sentence.
"For primary teeth, the sequence of numbers similarly is 5, 6, 7, and 8 for the teeth in the upper right, upper left, lower left, and lower right respectively."

I think of simplifying such as this.
"Paralleling quadrants 1, 2, 3, and 4 for permanent teeth, the quadrants for primary teeth are denoted 5, 6, 7, and 8."
Or this.
"The quadrants for primary teeth are denoted 5, 6, 7, and 8 paralleling quadrants 1, 2, 3, and 4 for permanent teeth.
If no objection, I'll make the change. Thx, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 15:52, 16 August 2025 (UTC)